Why is it that humans have such a superiority complex? *RANT*

Descartes

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I've always been intrigued by the level of intelligence displayed by other animals, especially when it's in a manner which is different than ours. I was watching a program last night on 48 Hours (I think) that proved, unequivocally, that animals (at least african elephants in this test) do in fact communicate, and not simply primal needs. It's been shown that collaborative hunting amongst predatory animals is a manifestation of some form of communication, yet, we are not perceptible to it. Why is it we feel that every indication of intelligence in ourselves is so superior to that of every other living thing? Some arguments I've heard...

- Adam and Eve were given a name by God, thus, we're superior, as animals were given general names like "cats", "dogs", ad nauseum. -- WTF?? This was actually an argument put forth by a rabbi, and was read to me by a friend of mine. I don't need to point out how absurd this statement is.

- Animals only act on primal instincts, they don't "reflect" on those instincts. When we're hungry, we "reflect" on our hunger, whereas an animal is simply hungry.

- Animals are unable to develop language. -- Again, wtf? Many studies have shown that animals communicate on frequencies that are not perceptible by the human ear, yet, it's not "language", therefore inferior to our own forms of communication.

Is the ability to oppress another what defines one to be superior? Why is it that these blind arguments are so largely put forward by religous zealots. It's been thought that we're the only animals who are able to acknowledge our own demise, so we have an overly active temporal lobe to facilitate a degree of "fantasy" that allows us to be more at peace with this fact. We conjure up thoughts of superiority, life after death, gold brick roads, and eternity in an our own Elysium, simply because the thought of living a life with absolutely no greater purpose terrifies us. Why? If anything, we're an abstraction of the primordial animal, and we've become nothing but lost in our own fantasy.

Done, for now. I'm sure this reads like an amalgamated set of arguments, but I had to get it all out. I'd like to hear some comments.
 

SJ

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Its pretty simple really, we are at the TOP of the food chain.
 

Elledan

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<< Its pretty simple really, we are at the TOP of the food chain. >>

yeah, and we're doing a good job exterminating ourselves.

Anyway, animals aren't the pre-programmed machines we often take them for. They can learn just as well as we can, only because we can use faster ways of communication and sharing knowledge we've become so successful.

BTW it appears that pigs are the smartest animals after Humans.
 

geno

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<< Its pretty simple really, we are at the TOP of the food chain. >>


That, and the society we've developed over time. That adds to the superiority complex that most humans have IMO.
 

TheAvenger

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We have the ability to deny out instincts. That opens up a world of possibilities, to control one's own desire is to control one's destiny.


Humans are intellectually superior, we use logic, something that for the moment is unattainable by any other species.
 

SJ

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<< yeah, and we're doing a good job exterminating ourselves. >>



Well if we didn't we would be like those deer. They always over produce, and starve. The world population is growing rapidly, so some people exterminating themselves is fine by me.
 

TheAvenger

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BTW it appears that pigs are the smartest animals after Humans.



...I thought it was dolphins??
 

GasX

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<< Its pretty simple really, we are at the TOP of the food chain. >>



Do humans eat lions?

Do lions eat humans?

Lions are above us in the food chain.
 

Moonbeam

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Naturally sj assumes it's not going to be him. Too bad you can't see death and dying all around you to wake up those heart muscles a bit. Humanity is sick at it's core. It will take a rather massive awakening in general for us to survive. Our arrogance is the outward manifestation of our inward feelings of worthlessness. Only an inward journey into hell as pointed to in all world mythology can save us. All evidence to date indicates only a very few will attempt the trip.
 

Tauren

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No Lions are not. Just because we choose to not eat them doesn't make us above them. If we didn't have any other choices, believe me, we would eat them into extinction. The top of the food chain is shared, just like every other level of the food chain. I just helped my fiancee's son with this the last semester of school and he got an A.
 

BoberFett

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<< Do humans eat lions?

Do lions eat humans?

Lions are above us in the food chain.
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How often does a lion eat a human? When it happens, it's a mishap. I don't think any lion is a match for a large caliber rifle.
 

kami

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<< Do humans eat lions?

Do lions eat humans?

Lions are above us in the food chain.
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Humans have weapons...it puts us at advantage. I dunno about you but I don't see any humans running around rampant with no weapons on the african plains :)
 

GasX

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<< I just helped my fiancee's son with this the last semester of school and he got an A >>



Well, I guess you're an expert then...

It's more of a food web or food cycle than a chain anyway.

example: You eat a cow. you die. you get buried. bugs and bacteria eat you. Bugs and bacteria fetilize soil. Fertilized soil lets grass grow. Cow eats grass. Your son eats cow...

It's infinitely more complex than that, but that's the general idea. Top of the chain is a title best given to top predator in a micro-environment that you are studying.
 

Elledan

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<< BTW it appears that pigs are the smartest animals after Humans.



...I thought it was dolphins??
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Nope, studies have shown that pigs are much more 'intelligent' than dolphins or any primates.
 

Czar

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We have a strange urge to feel special in the world while we are nothing more or nothing less then everything else. We seek purpose and therefor we created religion.
 

Tauren

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<<Well, I guess you're an expert then...>>

Thanks for the compliment. What I meant by that was obviously he didn't get the concept wrong. You're right about 'micro-environments' but considering the 'macro-environment' as a whole, to which Descartes is reffering, the top spot is shared by many species as I stated.

BTW - making smart-@ss remarks like yours does't add anything to an arguement. On the contrary they give one a air of superiority-complex that is usually a sign of the socially inept.
 

piku

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<< Do humans eat lions?

Do lions eat humans?
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We would if they tasted good and if it wasn't for those damn hippies...
 

hungrypete

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We are superior to animals. We are killing most of them off, right? We are taking thier habitats and building parking lots. We are taking thier babies and making designer shoes. We eat thier flesh daily. Doesn't really sound like we are inferior. Alot of animals are much more intelligent than we give them credit for. We are still superior. We will be until little green men come down and start poking long metal rods up our you-know-whats.
 

TheAvenger

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We would if they tasted good and if it wasn't for those damn hippies...

yeah... damn those hippies...


lol I say that all the time:D
 

GasX

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<< BTW - making smart-@ss remarks like yours don't add anything to an arguement. On the contrary they give one a air of superiority-complex that is usually a sign of the socially inept. >>


Perhaps, but using the fact that you helped a kid with a report for school as a basis for an expert opinion is asking for smart-@ss remarks.

I didn't realize your skin was so thin...
 

Amused

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LOL, why do I have visions of those Holiday Inn Express commercials running through my head?

&quot;Are you an expert?&quot;

&quot;No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express (help my kid write a report) last night.&quot;

ROFL!