Why is it that Clear CMOS is still a JUMPER?

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Tick
Why not, like, a BUTTON or TOGGLE SWITCH?

to tick you off?

as others have asked, how OFTEN do you reset you CMOS so that you NEED a switch?

Still a better topic than the Xbox360 vs PS3 vs PC gfx
revolting

:shocked:

 

[edmundoab]

hmm, which reminds me,
i used to have to remove my A7N8X mobo battery and reset the jumper everytime I mess up with the FSB and memory timings.
for such a fragile bios...
yes a button is alot easier to deal with.

I kinda like DFI's on/off and reset button without needing a case though

 

[Looney]

A single dip switch would probably be too flimsy. And buttons and actual switches would be too prone to tripping.

 

[BurnItDwn]

It's always been a jumper?

why change it from something uber cheap to something that costs more ....

I dunno about you, but I'd like to keep costs down on my PC builds ...

 

[Jeff7]

How about a gigantic knife switch, like in cheesy old monster movies? Pooool ze svitch!!!

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Kensai

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: Kensai
The MSI K8N Neo4 SLI and Platinum have buttons.

DAMN YOU!

And add the fact that I try to push OCing and push and push and push. The buttons come in handy.

Doesn't matter on an nForce board. Just hold the Insert key and it should boot at default speeds.

 

[jamesbond007]

Does ASUS still ship their boards with the two solder points that are barely raised enough to connect with a screwdriver? I mean, c'mon! They're not even using a dang jumper there! The last few boards I used have not had them, but I haven't used ASUS in about 2 years.

A jumper is easy, two tiny solder points in a board suck major wang when your case is already setup. I'd definitely take a jumper over this and a momentary switch would be a god-send!

 

[JonnyBlaze]

why not hook it up to a switch?

 

[rise]

i'd rather see them do something about the front panel connectors.

 

[MobiusPizza]

Well actually whenever I want to reset CMOS I just pop out the battery and push it back in. Can't be more simple than that. It depends on motherboards though

 

[Abix]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX
It's called sarcasm.. I've reset it like 4 times now. Anyway, is Joe Consumer affected by 30 cents?

The question you should be asking is:
'Is Joe Motherboard Manufacturer affected by 30 cents x 1 million?'

 

[LTC8K6]

I just hold down the INSERT key during a cold boot.

I only go to the jumper if it's a board that the INSERT key won't work on.

 

[Lonyo]

A lot of people here aren't realising some things:
There are specific overclocking/enthusiast motherboards on the market where you pay a premium for certain features, and a switch *should* be one of them.
If you're overcharging for a motherboard anyway (eg: Abit Fatal1ty), and it's an enthusiast board, it's a sensible addition, and it would make sense for the target consumer.
(I don't know if Fatali1ty does/doesn't have one, but it's the most obvious enthusiast mobo I could think of, except for DFI boards)

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: Abix

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX
It's called sarcasm.. I've reset it like 4 times now. Anyway, is Joe Consumer affected by 30 cents?

The question you should be asking is:
'Is Joe Motherboard Manufacturer affected by 30 cents x 1 million?'

Erm I didn't write that, Tick did

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Tick
Why not, like, a BUTTON or TOGGLE SWITCH?

i can see it now......your messing round in your case, and whoops there goes the switch...and all your perfectly setup and overclocked bios settings....shame

 

[imported_burningrave101]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Tick
Why not, like, a BUTTON or TOGGLE SWITCH?

i can see it now......your messing round in your case, and whoops there goes the switch...and all your perfectly setup and overclocked bios settings....shame

The new DFI NF4 boards have a power and reset switch on the bottom right corner of the motherboard so that you can start the machine without hooking it up the power/reset switch on your case and i've never "accidentally" hit ither one of them while working in my case.

I think jumpers for clearing the CMOS need to be done away with. There needs to be a simple switch or button to hit to do it. Jumpers should only be used for things you alter maybe once or twice the entire time you have the board. If your an overclocker you sometimes have to reset the CMOS alot. And DFI even recommends that you clear the CMOS when flashing to a new BIOS. Luckily DFI at least includes a little tool to make it a little bit easier to grab ahold of those little jumpers.

Thermaltake can come up with those stupid tooless green PCI brackets for their new cases but motherboard manufacturers can't come up with a clear CMOS switch?

 

[Auric]

I dream of having a jumper. I have to pull the battery to clear the CMOS, which is why I haven't bothered finding the o'c limits of my latest CPU.

 

[bjc112]

I don't mind using a jumper at all. Takes like 5 seconds longer..

 

[batmanuel]

The Shuttle AN51R I used for a build recently had a little CMOS clear button on the backpane of the board. The button is behind a tiny hole in the I/O shield, so you have to stick a paperclip in the hole to press the button. The hole is so small that Joe Sixpack is unlikely to mess with it and you simply CAN'T press it by accident. It was a truly nice feature to have just in case. The Shuttle board also has the same board-mounted power and reset buttons as the DFI boards, so it was a great little board for the money ($75 at Newegg). If a value board like the Shuttle has those features, I don't see why ALL of the premium overcloker boards don't.

 

[imported_Tick]

Wow, I was just neffing, and this topic took off. Anyway, as was said, a switch would cost more, I agree. And it would be vulnerable to accidental contact... perhaps. BUT, for high end boards, a switch that is housed in such a way that it isn't vulnerable to accidental contact WOULD be a good idea. The cost would be rather minor, and it wouldn't be need on anything other than enthusiest boards. Hence, the consensus seems to be that the manufacturer of high-end boards should include a switch.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Haha. Sucks be to ALL of you - I have CPUPR on my ASUS P4P800-e Deluxe. No need to clear CMOS or anything (unless I forget my boot password, which I don't even have).