Why is it "racist" to say that Obama has been a lousy president?

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DominionSeraph

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I've heard/read some people say this, but I'm not American and I reckon he HAS been a shitty president:

- He promised change, what change? Oh, a change in party and President from 2008 onwards, that's all..

- US foreign policy hasn't altered.

- US political culture is exactly the same as it was pre-2008, under Bush Jr., Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, well all the rest for about 100 years prior..lol..

So, since the FACTS bare out he's been shitty, then why not call that out?

Single-handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy. Saved the US economy. Restored competency to the US government. Gave health insurance to millions. Killed Bin Laden. Stopped invading countries on invented charges. Stopped the use of torture. Not a single scandal in six years.

Sorry, but your beliefs that he's a Muslim from Kenya and the antichrist aren't facts, and race likely has something to do with your willingness to believe.
 
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mammador

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Single-handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy. Saved the US economy. Restored competency to the US government. Gave health insurance to millions. Killed Bin Laden. Stopped invading countries on invented charges. Stopped the use of torture. Not a single scandal in six years.

Sorry, but calling him out for being a Muslim from Kenya and the antichrist aren't facts.

He saved an economy that needed saving no matter if he or McCain had won.... and he killed Bin Laden, even though again this may have happened (and needed to whether GOP/Dems). I think he's shitty since he promised change but didn't deliver it.....you're only citing things he had to do, nothing inspired to lead the country forward.

Hmmmm....I can see tolerance of others' views is paramount here....lol....
 

Remobz

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The White Republicans (especially) have always sought to "demonize" him and attacked him relentlessly just for the sake of it sometimes.
 

DominionSeraph

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He saved an economy that needed saving no matter if he or McCain had won.... and he killed Bin Laden, even though again this may have happened (and needed to whether GOP/Dems). I think he's shitty since he promised change but didn't deliver it.....you're only citing things he had to do, nothing inspired to lead the country forward.

If you can't give credit to a black man, you might just be a racist.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Please list out things that are worse then 6 years ago.

The ME is one. Privacy and associated Constitutional rights. A lot of things are the same. Some are better. That said I don't care for Obama overly, but then I didn't Bush II. The problem with being "shitty" is that it's independent of what anyone has done before. Let's take cancer. If Bush was a brain tumor, would you say that having colon cancer was just what you asked for?

It seems that the best anyone can really offer is the best of two evils.
 

mammador

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If you can't give credit to a black man, you might just be a racist.

lolol....why can't you accept others have their own views? Is there some absolute yardstick to what or who is a good politician?

wow.....perhaps you have some condition, meh, not bothered...
 

alkemyst

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It's not racist until they start saying it's because he is a black man, which so many have a hard time not doing.

Also a lot of the issues people harp about have nothing Obama could have done to change.

People are easy victims of the shell game our government pulls especially with the media backing they get.

I remember down here some people believed when Obama got elected he would send out checks to all the black people...it's so stupid what people believe.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Single-handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy. Saved the US economy. Restored competency to the US government. Gave health insurance to millions. Killed Bin Laden. Stopped invading countries on invented charges. Stopped the use of torture. Not a single scandal in six years.

Sorry, but your beliefs that he's a Muslim from Kenya and the antichrist aren't facts, and race likely has something to do with your willingness to believe.

You know I did a search on Mammador with "Kenya", "birther" and Muslim, and I didn't find a single instance of a post that backs your comment in the second section.

Regarding the first, my you do have religious faith after all. You ascribe supernatural powers and invent a myth surrounding it. Single handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy? That's funny, I don't find that. Did he use his Jedi mind power?

He saved the economy! Well he did play a large part in the recovery of GM, which I think was a good thing. But that economy. Oh yes, more jobs. I see the median income has gone up. Oh, no it hasn't. Outsourcing was curtailed. Well no. Maybe some creative plan to reward investment in US infrastructure and stable good paying jobs? Oh, nothing there. Yeah those republicans. They surely blocked those, except they never came up. We have heard how things are great- of course unless you are the middle class. Perhaps you are a 0.1 percenter. In that case things look mighty fine. Praise Obama!

Restored competency to government! Well that's why both Democrats as well as Republicans are viewed with general disdain. And there's how he's enforced the law, like making sure those huge fines were paid by mines who have violated safety rules for years or more. Oh, no. Nothing on that. Then remember that little war in Iraq? Oh boy didn't you love that! I mean Obama certainly thought it was just fine. Nothing wrong there. If OJeebus had thought there were shenanigans and hundreds of thousands were killed under suspicious pretense he certainly would have sought justice by committing some political currency on at least attempting an investigation. Oh, no. OJeebus didn't save.

Stopped invading countries on false pretenses. Well I suppose you agree that ISIS is so deadly that we just had to invade Syria. Perhaps it's that Islam conflicts with your Obamaism. Infidels must die! Regime change. Never happen. But he'll save us by weakening Assad to assist in the destabilization of Syria, because we know how well that worked in Iraq and Iran.

And he killed Bin Laden! Wow and all this time I thought he gave permission for someone else to go after him. Maybe he did the intel analysis. Gathered it? Oh, OK. I see just what happened.

Not a single scandal in 6 years. Nope. He doesn't have to hide and pull strings like with the NSA. He just does it. He can lie when he says no data collected was used against US citizens. If they did you'd cast them out. Racists all. Questioners of the True Path to Salvation.

The Cult of Obama and you are a chief priest. Momma must be so proud.
 

BoberFett

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Single-handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy. Saved the US economy. Restored competency to the US government. Gave health insurance to millions. Killed Bin Laden. Stopped invading countries on invented charges. Stopped the use of torture. Not a single scandal in six years.

I don't think you understand what the phrase "single-handedly" means.

The above post is the kind of crazy person that people are talking about when they talk about Obama worshipers. It's a cult of lunatics who truly believe when he's not single-handedly saving the world, he puts on tights and a cape and flys around the world fighting super villains.
 

Mani

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Set up a straw man, knock it down. No one is saying anyone critical of Obama is a racist. At least no one sane. But it's fair to say that a lot of the extreme hatred directed at the guy is racially tinged.
 

alkemyst

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Set up a straw man, knock it down. No one is saying anyone critical of Obama is a racist. At least no one sane. But it's fair to say that a lot of the extreme hatred directed at the guy is racially tinged.

The OP is searching for Standard Knowledge.
 

thraashman

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The problem is that so much of the hatred directed towards Obama defies logic. And when there's no logical reason behind something, you start to look at the illogical. And racism is an illogical behavior. Now most racist people I know won't admit to being racist, but their behavior still shows their racism. I'd say nearly half the outwardly conservative people I know display very racist behavior regularly and another small percentage will display subtly racist behavior regularly or occasionally. And I'm sure for a percentage of conservatives that their hatred of Obama has a solid racial tinge to it. But I think most of their illogical vitriol simply comes from the fact that you have to be illogical, crazy, and a bit stupid to be a conservative to begin with. Trying to find logical reasoning in the behavior of conservatives is like hunting for bigfoot.
 

HomerJS

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You know I did a search on Mammador with "Kenya", "birther" and Muslim, and I didn't find a single instance of a post that backs your comment in the second section.

Regarding the first, my you do have religious faith after all. You ascribe supernatural powers and invent a myth surrounding it. Single handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy? That's funny, I don't find that. Did he use his Jedi mind power?

He saved the economy! Well he did play a large part in the recovery of GM, which I think was a good thing. But that economy. Oh yes, more jobs. I see the median income has gone up. Oh, no it hasn't. Outsourcing was curtailed. Well no. Maybe some creative plan to reward investment in US infrastructure and stable good paying jobs? Oh, nothing there. Yeah those republicans. They surely blocked those, except they never came up. We have heard how things are great- of course unless you are the middle class. Perhaps you are a 0.1 percenter. In that case things look mighty fine. Praise Obama!

Restored competency to government! Well that's why both Democrats as well as Republicans are viewed with general disdain. And there's how he's enforced the law, like making sure those huge fines were paid by mines who have violated safety rules for years or more. Oh, no. Nothing on that. Then remember that little war in Iraq? Oh boy didn't you love that! I mean Obama certainly thought it was just fine. Nothing wrong there. If OJeebus had thought there were shenanigans and hundreds of thousands were killed under suspicious pretense he certainly would have sought justice by committing some political currency on at least attempting an investigation. Oh, no. OJeebus didn't save.

Stopped invading countries on false pretenses. Well I suppose you agree that ISIS is so deadly that we just had to invade Syria. Perhaps it's that Islam conflicts with your Obamaism. Infidels must die! Regime change. Never happen. But he'll save us by weakening Assad to assist in the destabilization of Syria, because we know how well that worked in Iraq and Iran.

And he killed Bin Laden! Wow and all this time I thought he gave permission for someone else to go after him. Maybe he did the intel analysis. Gathered it? Oh, OK. I see just what happened.

Not a single scandal in 6 years. Nope. He doesn't have to hide and pull strings like with the NSA. He just does it. He can lie when he says no data collected was used against US citizens. If they did you'd cast them out. Racists all. Questioners of the True Path to Salvation.

The Cult of Obama and you are a chief priest. Momma must be so proud.

So the fact that nobody questioned the citizenship of the previous 43 presidents including a candidate (McCain) who wasn't born in the United States nor will they question someone running for President born in Canada (Cruz) and Obama had a birth certificate from Hawaii means all that dark Kenyan Muslim he's one of "the others" bullshit was all a big fat sloppy wet coincidence?? Or was it we are going to make sure we paint that black man as not one of us?

As for the rest of the rant sound like your beef is this shitty President's hasn't cleaned up all the mess left by the last President who was much better. I get it!
 

Drako

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As for the rest of the rant sound like your beef is this shitty President's hasn't cleaned up all the mess left by the last President who was much better. I get it!

Ah, there it is: It's all Bush's fault. :biggrin:
 

Londo_Jowo

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The problem is that so much of the hatred directed towards Obama defies logic. And when there's no logical reason behind something, you start to look at the illogical. And racism is an illogical behavior. Now most racist people I know won't admit to being racist, but their behavior still shows their racism. I'd say nearly half the outwardly conservative people I know display very racist behavior regularly and another small percentage will display subtly racist behavior regularly or occasionally. And I'm sure for a percentage of conservatives that their hatred of Obama has a solid racial tinge to it. But I think most of their illogical vitriol simply comes from the fact that you have to be illogical, crazy, and a bit stupid to be a conservative to begin with. Trying to find logical reasoning in the behavior of conservatives is like hunting for bigfoot.

I guess you must be blind to those that share your ideology as there are more than a few of them fit your description to a "T". The fact be known people in the fringes on both sides have ideas that are illogical and can be be equally racist.
 

DominionSeraph

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I don't think you understand what the phrase "single-handedly" means.

If Fox News wants to give him sole blame for "illegally abusing his power," to "twist BP's arm," to agree to the trust fund, he gets sole credit for the result.
 

Blanky

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Single-handedly saved the Gulf Coast economy. Saved the US economy. Restored competency to the US government. Gave health insurance to millions. Killed Bin Laden. Stopped invading countries on invented charges. Stopped the use of torture. Not a single scandal in six years.
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WHAMPOM

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I've heard/read some people say this, but I'm not American and I reckon he HAS been a shitty president:

- He promised change, what change? Oh, a change in party and President from 2008 onwards, that's all..

- US foreign policy hasn't altered.

- US political culture is exactly the same as it was pre-2008, under Bush Jr., Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, well all the rest for about 100 years prior..lol..

So, since the FACTS bare out he's been shitty, then why not call that out?

So, the same people that considered Bush a great president for his actions think Obama is lousy for doing the same? I want to know where these lousy ratings are coming from.