Why is it ok to cows and chickens, but not dogs and cats?

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tk149

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Originally posted by: Vic
Because we eat herbivores and not other carnivores.

We eat fish who eat other fish. We'd probably eat carnivores if they were as domestic and as cheap to feed as herbivores.
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: So
We (westerners) have used them as 'helper animals' -- animals that we cultivate for their skills, not for food. As such, we call them "pets" and have a cultural aversion to eating them.
What exploitable skills do cats have? As far as I can tell, they're only out for themselves.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: So
We (westerners) have used them as 'helper animals' -- animals that we cultivate for their skills, not for food. As such, we call them "pets" and have a cultural aversion to eating them.
What exploitable skills do cats have? As far as I can tell, they're only out for themselves.

Pest control for bakers, farmers, etc...
 

hellokeith

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Originally posted by: madworm
what if the combination of cat meat and dog meat is the cure for AIDS, think ppl will start eating them?

AIDS can be irradicated by very simple behavioral changes. Rex and Felix are safe! :D
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Was that the point? I was addressing the question of how to classify a scavenger on the "carni/herbi/omnivore matrix".

Vultures would choose whichever carcass was less rotten. At the same rotten-ness...probably yes, a herbivore carcass would provide more fatty energy for them than a lean carnivore carcass.

well now you are just being argumentative [like most of your posts], I don't know of a taste test being performed on Vultures other than they usually choose herbivores as their meal, it's usually always dead that's the way they do it, I think if it got to rotten for a vulture they could hunt down some other fresh kill nearby some of the time at least.

scavengers are part of that matrix really..it should be carn/herb/omnivore + scanvenger.

I simply misunderstood you and was clarifying things. I only had 7 years in the science, and I haven't practiced it since 1995/6.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: So
We (westerners) have used them as 'helper animals' -- animals that we cultivate for their skills, not for food. As such, we call them "pets" and have a cultural aversion to eating them.
What exploitable skills do cats have? As far as I can tell, they're only out for themselves.

Pest control for bakers, farmers, etc...

yeap.

we always had at least 8 cats in the barn. some times we would have more and others less. since they tend to go and come as they please the numbers changed.

we would keep water out in the barn but very little food. but i would find half eaten rats, rabbits etc all over.

not the friendlist cats. though one thought she was my mother. she would always bring me "Food" to eat and fallow me around the property. only cat i really liked, it was a sad day when she died :(
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
First off, there's the "don't eat another carnivore/omnivore" thing that's stamped into our DNA. Part of the food chain and whatnot. Though I wouldn't mind trying Bear.
False. What is stamped in our DNA is that herbivores are a hell of a lot easier to kill than carnivores. When carnivores decide to put up a fight, they will generally hurt you ... even the "weak" ones. If it was stamped into our DNA, no one would ever think of eating dog or cat, but millions do - and it's done throughout the ecosystem.

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Because cows and chickens are delicious, while dogs and cats are not.

The reason they're kept as pets is because humans decided their other uses outweigh their use as food.

I heard the exact opposite. Someone told me that dogs are incredibly delicious. I'm not kidding.

In south florida, there is a lot of latin ppl. I have talked to one that said the same thing, although they would not have eaten it if they knew.

They said it was very good and unique. This was at a restaurant in Cali.
 

Baked

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Let's just say humans will eat anything when they're starving.

And LOL @ the guy who came up w/ the ridiculous idea of eating carnivore stamped in our DNA
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ophir
What exploitable skills do cats have? As far as I can tell, they're only out for themselves.

I have an army of them...any dreams you have of being 'breathless' in the night, or small round bruises on your chest in the morning are delusional.

Your DNA response was equally flawed.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Baked
Let's just say humans will eat anything when they're starving.

And LOL @ the guy who came up w/ the ridiculous idea of eating carnivore stamped in our DNA

yeap. a human will eat anything (even other people) when starving. We go after what is easy to kill. thats why i love apples. i can sneak up on them and get them without to much trouble!
 

Rubycon

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Well if they start using dogs they can get away with it as the description does not need to change. After all most people eat hot dogs. :Q
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ophir
What exploitable skills do cats have? As far as I can tell, they're only out for themselves.

I have an army of them...any dreams you have of being 'breathless' in the night, or small round bruises on your chest in the morning are delusional.

Your DNA response was equally flawed.
?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ophir
What exploitable skills do cats have? As far as I can tell, they're only out for themselves.

I have an army of them...any dreams you have of being 'breathless' in the night, or small round bruises on your chest in the morning are delusional.

Your DNA response was equally flawed.
?

it's senseless to debate this with you. Really.
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Cats and dogs are cute. Really, that's all there is to it.

We don't like to eat the cute animals.

rabbits are cute and so are lambs


both of those are tasty

[lamb]"Lisa, I thought you lohahahahaved me, lohahahved! me!!"[/]

:p
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
First off, there's the "don't eat another carnivore/omnivore" thing that's stamped into our DNA. Part of the food chain and whatnot. Though I wouldn't mind trying Bear.

It's hardly "stamped into our DNA"; lots of people eat carnivores.

BTW, cats and dogs are not "sentient";)

But besides that...you got it spot-on.

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: JToxic

Why can't they be both? And quite frankly, dogs are rarely useful unless you are a sheep herder.

WHAT!?! Ever heard of service dogs? Seeing-eye dogs? etc...?

Which compromise what percentage of the total number of pets in the world?

Ever hear of truffle-sniffing pigs?
 

Leros

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So is the basic consensus that pets are cute and cuddly so we don't eat them?
 

dfi

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My grandmother used to have a pet cow. She doesn't eat beef because of it. True story.
 

akshatp

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Originally posted by: dfi
My grandmother used to have a pet cow. She doesn't eat beef because of it. True story.

My grandmother had a pet elephant. She ate it. True story.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Because cows and chickens are delicious, while dogs and cats are not.

The reason they're kept as pets is because humans decided their other uses outweigh their use as food.

ever had cat taco? :D

Everyone that has been to a local Mexican restaurant has had it.
 

Dumac

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I have eaten a pretty big carnivore: an alligator. My mom has also eaten her pet dog, but she didn't know that it was her dog until after she ate it an her parents revealed the big secret.

Cats and Dogs are just viewed differently because throughout history many civilazations have used dogs/cats for military or civil services. This difference was intergrated into our law system.
 

dfi

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Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: dfi
My grandmother used to have a pet cow. She doesn't eat beef because of it. True story.

My grandmother had a pet elephant. She ate it. True story.

My story is actually true. Where did your grandmother live that she had a pet elephant?