Why is it in any class I take where the topic of energy comes up...

magomago

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As a student in college, the topic of energy and resources constantly comes up in my classes. Whether it is a pollution prevention class, a class about polymer synthesis (We produce our plastics from oil), Thermodynamics, Materials classes, or even history classes... there is one consistent thing that is repeated from all professors REGARDLESS of their politicial opinions:
It is that the Energy problem of the future is OUR problem. It is MY generation's problem. It is as if that "their generation" will play absolutely no role in helping the problem; rather they just pass it to us and act like they had nothing to do with it.

Why is this?

Is it not the older generation's fault as well? Were not they the ones to hook us to the degree that we are? Were they not the ones to (as a group) not care too much. So if I pour toxic waste on land that my kids were inherent because it gave me money...do I have a right to sit there and talk about how it is their problem to fix it and clean it up?

Is it just me...but why does it always seem like the world's problem's are tossed to the next generation? The Energy Crisis is something we are being "handed", Bioethics and saftey is "not my generations problem. We will just sit back and watch what you guys will decide", social security is a problem that is passed to my generation to deal with it.

That is just avoiding the problem by passing the blame elsewhere. What do you guys think my generation will do? Deal with all of these when the previous generation (again as a group...I'm talking big picture here) didn't care? PRobably not...we are going to do the exact same thing as you guys.

 

sandorski

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You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: sandorski
You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.

I hope his prof doesn't really mean that. In proper context, it is the "fault" of the previous generations yet somehow all of the responsibility for fixing or just "living with it" falls to future generations?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: sandorski
You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.

I hope his prof doesn't really mean that. In proper context, it is the "fault" of the previous generations yet somehow all of the responsibility for fixing or just "living with it" falls to future generations?

It's not about Responsibility, it's about life changing/defining events. It's like how Vietnam, sex/drugs/rock and roll, and long haired Hippies define the '60's Generation.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: sandorski
You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.

I hope his prof doesn't really mean that. In proper context, it is the "fault" of the previous generations yet somehow all of the responsibility for fixing or just "living with it" falls to future generations?

It's not about Responsibility, it's about life changing/defining events. It's like how Vietnam, sex/drugs/rock and roll, and long haired Hippies define the '60's Generation.

I'm not sure that makes sense in the context. Some people had minimal interaction/consequences from what you say defined the '60s. But I guarantee you EVERYBODY will notice $5/gallon gas!

As a GenXer I definitely think its about responsibility. The old farts have not only identified a problem . . . they ARE the problem. Yet they largely do nothing except make it worse. The cultural analogy you made was about choices. We may not have any choices except for determining which stark option to take amongst the ridiculously bad scenarios left to us.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: sandorski
You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.

I hope his prof doesn't really mean that. In proper context, it is the "fault" of the previous generations yet somehow all of the responsibility for fixing or just "living with it" falls to future generations?

ok let whose going to fix it then?
the past generations can`t fix it...they are all iether dead or getting to old to fix the problem...
So whats the solution?
 

trenchfoot

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imho, it's not the whole generation of 'boomers that are responsible for this mess.

as conjur previously mentioned, "follow the money", and talk to those people. it's easy. there are less than 50 of them that you have to find.
 

Moonbeam

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The professor just means that while you will do everything in your power to pass the problem on to your kids, just like the last generation, you won't have the luxury of time to do so. Think of lemmings whose plunge into the sea takes a couple of generations. Some of us get to laugh all the way down.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: sandorski
You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.

I hope his prof doesn't really mean that. In proper context, it is the "fault" of the previous generations yet somehow all of the responsibility for fixing or just "living with it" falls to future generations?

ok let whose going to fix it then?
the past generations can`t fix it...they are all iether dead or getting to old to fix the problem...
So whats the solution?

I'm keeping it real. I'm not saying dig up the Greatest Generation. Then again many of the Greatest Generation are the same movers and shakers fudgin' up the planet right now! With the help of their children (Boomers) we are going to hell in a handbasket. It pisses me off that these people believe they have a divine right to plunder but no friggin' responsibilities! For the Chrisitans (and Jews since I think its OT), the Lord said be a good GD steward. For the nonreligious, don't crap where you live.

The solution is to extract wealth AND knowledge of all the living to develop plans for intervening in our impending crises and mitigation of the inevitable.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: sandorski
You misunderstand the meaning of the phrase. They are not just washing their hands of Responsibility, they are stating that your/this generation is the first to see the issue. As your/this generation lives their lives the problem will become very serious and adjustment will be unavoidable.

I hope his prof doesn't really mean that. In proper context, it is the "fault" of the previous generations yet somehow all of the responsibility for fixing or just "living with it" falls to future generations?

ok let whose going to fix it then?
the past generations can`t fix it...they are all iether dead or getting to old to fix the problem...
So whats the solution?

I'm keeping it real. I'm not saying dig up the Greatest Generation. Then again many of the Greatest Generation are the same movers and shakers fudgin' up the planet right now! With the help of their children (Boomers) we are going to hell in a handbasket. It pisses me off that these people believe they have a divine right to plunder but no friggin' responsibilities! For the Chrisitans (and Jews since I think its OT), the Lord said be a good GD steward. For the nonreligious, don't crap where you live.

The solution is to extract wealth AND knowledge of all the living to develop plans for intervening in our impending crises and mitigation of the inevitable.

That sounds like depressing hard work. Wouldn't it just be easier to blame?