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Why is hard drive score in windows benchmark the same with 7200 RPM drive and 10k RPM

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Chrushev

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I noticed that the standard 7200 RPM drives get 5.9 score from Windows (7 and 8, which score up to 7.9 and 9.9 respectively).

I have a VelociRaptor in a couple PCs, which is 10k RPM drive. Yet it still gets the same score on "Disk data transfer rate".

Why is that? What are the benefits of having 10k RPM drive over 7200 if the performance is the same?
 
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Windows vista scores maxed out at 5.9
Windows 7 scores maxed out at 7.9

with out knowing which version of windows its hard to say, plus the test check other properties of the drive and averages it not just the rotational speed
 
I believe that most mechanical drives will score a 5.9 max. To go above that, you would need an SSD. I had a 10k drive years ago for storing my games, it helped quicken load times.
 
Dahak said:
Windows vista scores maxed out at 5.9
Windows 7 scores maxed out at 7.9

with out knowing which version of windows its hard to say, plus the test check other properties of the drive and averages it not just the rotational speed
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Yeah and Windows 8 will go up to 9.9

These machines are on Win 7 and Win 8, both rate at 5.9.

As far as averaging... wouldnt VelociRaptor beat a standard 7200 RPM drive across the board? So its average would be higher, even if by 0.1 points?
 
Chrushev said:
Yeah and Windows 8 will go up to 9.9

These machines are on Win 7 and Win 8, both rate at 5.9.

As far as averaging... wouldnt VelociRaptor beat a standard 7200 RPM drive across the board? So its average would be higher, even if by 0.1 points?
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Shouldn't Win 8 only go up to 8.9? *ba dum, tsshh*
 
Chrushev said:
Yeah and Windows 8 will go up to 9.9

These machines are on Win 7 and Win 8, both rate at 5.9.

As far as averaging... wouldnt VelociRaptor beat a standard 7200 RPM drive across the board? So its average would be higher, even if by 0.1 points?
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No, because the WEI scores are arbitrary, and in no way reflect the relative performance of the hardware involved.

MS decided that a storage subsystem would score 5.9 if it met certain relatively modest requirements that most any modern 7200rpm drive would meet, but that to score a 6.0, the storage subsystem would have to put out random I/O numbers that no HDD has a chance in hell of seeing.

By the same token, to get the top CPU score, you have to be able to process >8 threads. No matter how fast your overclocked quad core, you'll be stuck at one notch shy of max score.

WEI is a crap benchmark.
 
dave_the_nerd said:
No, because the WEI scores are arbitrary, and in no way reflect the relative performance of the hardware involved.

MS decided that a storage subsystem would score 5.9 if it met certain relatively modest requirements that most any modern 7200rpm drive would meet, but that to score a 6.0, the storage subsystem would have to put out random I/O numbers that no HDD has a chance in hell of seeing.

By the same token, to get the top CPU score, you have to be able to process >8 threads. No matter how fast your overclocked quad core, you'll be stuck at one notch shy of max score.

WEI is a crap benchmark.
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I agree that its crap, but its a little disheartening when all of the scored components are in the high 7's and the HDD is at 5.9, and putting in a faster (7200 vs 10k RPM) drive doesnt move it up at all. And whats even dumber is the fact that your score is just the lowest score... meaning no matter what, even 10 years from now with 24 core CPUs running at 10Ghz and 128GB of RAM if you have a 10k RPM drive in there you are getting a 5.9 for your score. Even if other components rate at 20 or 30 or whatever.
 
Stop using WEI. It's of extremely limited value. Use better, more informative benchmarks like CrystalDiskMark if you must.

Problem solved.
 
dave_the_nerd said:
No, because the WEI scores are arbitrary, and in no way reflect the relative performance of the hardware involved.



WEI is a crap benchmark.
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^^^ Dave beat me to the punch. ^^^

WEI seems worse than just worthless to me. In addition to providing useless information, if very frequently prompts users to start fixing things that aren't broken and for no good reason.
 
Chrushev said:
I agree that its crap, but its a little disheartening when all of the scored components are in the high 7's and the HDD is at 5.9, and putting in a faster (7200 vs 10k RPM) drive doesnt move it up at all. And whats even dumber is the fact that your score is just the lowest score... meaning no matter what, even 10 years from now with 24 core CPUs running at 10Ghz and 128GB of RAM if you have a 10k RPM drive in there you are getting a 5.9 for your score. Even if other components rate at 20 or 30 or whatever.
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That's because having a mechanical drive as your primary/OS drive is that bad.
 
If you do RAID youll get 6.3 score at the most.

Windows will give mechanical drives 5.9 and not higher. Once it detects a SSD then youll get to 7 score. gl
 
Yellowbeard said:
Define "most cases".
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Boot time, app launch time, saving data or writing. doing multiple things at once,, like scanning with supspywarefree while you launch photoshop it still comes up in 2 seconds....

hard drive is a joke for todays OS drive.

My boot up used to be 4 minutes and I had to wait 15 minutes before I can use comp since hard drive is thrashing. Then you open something its slow, install something its slow , icons show slowly,,,,, things are not instant because of 15ms and mechanical drive........

SSD is 0ms ,,,,,,,, that means everything is done instantly,, loading of multiple files saving of multiple files. With hard rdive you can do 1 thing at time and you get slow computer after installing 50apps. with SSD you can install 100 apps and it will still be the same. My boot time now is 15 seconds,,, PS CS6 2 seconds, everything else instant,, and in my DAW it auto saves soo fast I dont notice it anymore like I used to. hard drive it gonna work while you wanna do something else,, it becomes slow,, with SSD you can do 2 file scaners and it will still scream faster then a hard drive when you wanna get work done while your scanning. I can go on and on........

Icons show instantly once in thumbnail. no more thrashing or formatting to regain the speed u had when u first install windows. anyhow I can go on if you like.. thx gl

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Chrushev said:
Using SSD doesnt improve anything other than load times in most cases.. and SSDs are still less reliable than mechanical drives. So for majority of people out there SSD is just the latest fad.
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Load times (sequential I/O) are the least improved part of the equation vs. HDDs. (Two good 7200 rpm 3.5" HDDs in RAID-0 will easily match a SATA-2 SSD.)

Turning 5ms seek times to 0.05ms seek times matters every time you access the disk. Every time you click a mouse, there are dozens or hundreds of I/O operations queued up.

As far as "fad" - well, tell it to the enterprise storage folks that are in IOPS nirvana. They don't often fall for fads.
 
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