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Why is gentrication bad?
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not for the chinatown neighborhood in chinatown, the median income in Chinatown is anout 12,000 the median income for the greater boston area is around 30,000.
See whats wrong? if rent goes up to about 1500 (which is where it's at now, how do immigrants who have just came into the US make a small living. currently there are about 3 high rise condominiums with another being constructed and another being planned.
The Boston Chinatown is one of the only communities in Boston without its own public library and multi-lingual ballot. Even though it qualifies, legislators get mad because of Mitt Romneys translation as sticky rice....
Gentrification is good in some ways as it brings people back into the city but at the cost of getting rid of the lower class.
See whats wrong? if rent goes up to about 1500 (which is where it's at now, how do immigrants who have just came into the US make a small living. currently there are about 3 high rise condominiums with another being constructed and another being planned.
The Boston Chinatown is one of the only communities in Boston without its own public library and multi-lingual ballot. Even though it qualifies, legislators get mad because of Mitt Romneys translation as sticky rice....
Gentrification is good in some ways as it brings people back into the city but at the cost of getting rid of the lower class.
HardcoreRobot
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Generally speaking, it doesn't have to be a problem. In my view, the problem is when you start building McMansions next to homes of a different period. In districts where they have a concerted attempt to maintain the integrity of the community, an influx of cash often results in neighborhood restaurants, markets, developed parks and everything else required to support a community.
the biggest mistake people make when talking about this is deciding that it's either all bad or all good. In some respects it can be troubling, with working class people more or less getting run out of the neighborhood. It can also mean that more gets done with momentum behind it - historic structures avoid demolition, crime gets reduced, and infrastructure is maintained for the next round.
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Ok, I've heard this point before, but, why do we have to cater to the lower class? Wouldn't it be nicer to have a higher mean/median income in general? If immigrants want to come over to the US, they should be prepared to come over with a plan/research and lots of work ethic - most do not, and see the US as a land of milk and honey.
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Dubb, I guess your right in the aspect of gentrification being incorrectly classified as good or bad. Instead, maybe it should be seen as, does it work or not? When I say work, I'm referring to improving the community crime wise, economically, and any other area.
The counterpoint would be: why should we at best ignore the lower class and at worst make life harder on a group that already has things pretty hard? There's always going to be a lower class, and they have to live somewhere, ignoring them doesn't make that go away.
I would also argue that most cool, interesting, fun urban areas have some aspect of lower class life integrated into them. Who wants to live in Stepford? Striking a healthy balance is extremely difficult, but that should be the goal.
edit: also, it kind of scares me that you seem to refer to gentrification as a strategy.
I would also argue that most cool, interesting, fun urban areas have some aspect of lower class life integrated into them. Who wants to live in Stepford? Striking a healthy balance is extremely difficult, but that should be the goal.
edit: also, it kind of scares me that you seem to refer to gentrification as a strategy.
Bignate603
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That's not really a nice view on things. I have no problem with immigrants that come here and work. Poor people need to live too.
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idiotekniQues
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are you for real?
what driveling right wing blog do you get this from?
if immigrants came here with mostly no work ethic - why is it they are being hired left and right by companies that want hard workers at a cheaper price? not only do they mostly work very hard, they get paid less.
the construction, restaurant & landscaping industries are 3 blatant ones around here that are driven by hard working immigrant labor.
milk and honey? LOLOL
that was rich.
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To put things on topic a bit. Dubb, why does it scare you? It is a strategy, the city planners coordinate and organize the builders to construct property in areas where gentriFication is to take place. Also, to put some new light onto things, some people actually view gentriFication as means of "erasing" the MIDDLE and lower class. I just don't see it that way. A lot of people here (ATOT Community) mention the "Darwin award" and see the world as survival of the fittest, I don't agree with this, but it seems apt when it comes to gentrification.
Inspector Jihad
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I said "plan AND LOTS of work ethic." Lots of immigrants do come here with work ethic and they are doing good work, but not a lot of them have a plan or LOTS of work ethic. For example, my dad is a contractor that puts up siding. He works 6 days a week, Mon - Sat. and busts his ass. The last few years, he's picked up some help from some immigrants and there have been many cases where they want to skip the rainy days, and don't want to work on Sat. This is very common.
It's far from rich, it's more a misread on your part.
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Nah, no HW. I was a Chem and Bio major, gentrification just popped into my head because the county I live in is becoming gentrified and I don't know if I'm for it or against it. I think I'm swaying more for it.
Capt Caveman
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Hard to have a plan when you come to this country with nothing and have to bust ass to just to live day to day. Not everyone that comes to this country has the resources to be able to establish themselves quickly.
In regards to Boston's Chinatown, not only are you pushing out the lower class but also breaking up a concentration of immigrants who depend on one another to get further ahead in this country.
In regards to Boston's Chinatown, not only are you pushing out the lower class but also breaking up a concentration of immigrants who depend on one another to get further ahead in this country.
Gentrification tends to reduce competition. There is an area I used to live in that is highly concentrated Indian people. Very nice, modest but friendly people if you talk to them. As far as I could tell, they help each other out tremendously, so in that sense they save a ton of $ on things/services. In this instance, gentrification was good. But like was said before, gentrification isn't always good or bad. Really depends on the socio-economics of the area and the character quality of the people in that area.
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