Why is everyone flipping out over Tim Hardaway's comments?

michaels

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I personally have no problem with gays, but I am not gonna cry over some guy I don't even know giving his opinion. America is becoming a pussified nation. What's next? hate speech laws? Anyone who dares even not agree with homosexuality is fined or jailed?
 

nakedfrog

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I don't think it's much different than the reaction would be if someone similar said "I hate black people."
 

ElFenix

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no football and no real baseball for another month, no real golf stories, so the only things for sports radio to talk about are 1) the 'dog days' of the basketball season; 2) what crew chief is going to sit out of nascar and how that isn't a real punishment; 3) tim hardaway.
 

gwlam12

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He also pretty much said that it's wrong. That's more than just disagreeing with homosexuality.
 

maddogchen

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people in California, bay area liked him when he was part of runTMC, now they feel sad to find out what he's really like.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: gwlam12
He also pretty much said that it's wrong. That's more than just disagreeing with homosexuality.

didn't he say to deport all homosexuals?

it'd be like a white guy saying, in all seriousness, that we should deport all black people and send them back to africa. huge furor.
 

yowolabi

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If you're well known and you publicly make non-PC comments, expect to take some flak for it.

I don't think the public cares much seeing as how the star is so minor. However the soundbite makes for easy television and debate, so the stations aren't going to stop reporting on it for a few more days.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I don't think it's much different than the reaction would be if someone similar said "I hate black people."

LOL. That's the funniest thing I read all day. Your response to a guy who posts "why are people flipping over Tim Hardaway hating gays" is "it's not much different than saying you hate blacks"?

 

michaels

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Would the outrage be the same if a gay or non-Christian said something similar about Christians? I think not.
 

PokerGuy

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While I think what he said was ignorant, I fully support his right to say it. If that's what he feels, then so be it, he has a right to his opinion.
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
no football and no real baseball for another month, no real golf stories, so the only things for sports radio to talk about are 1) the 'dog days' of the basketball season; 2) what crew chief is going to sit out of nascar and how that isn't a real punishment; 3) tim hardaway.

4) advertisements at wrigley field on the doors of the outfield wall.
 

dsity

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i heard someone say this in another thread a while back:

pvssification of america.
 

jman19

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Why are you outraged and shocked over what is a typical reaction? In the same vein that people shouldn't worry about Tim Hardaway's comments, you shouldn't worry about what people think about those comments.
 

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Because the personal need of many progressives is to have others view them as tolerant. The more offended you are about such comments, the more tolerant you are, thereby affirming to themselves they are good people.
 

michaels

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It seems to me the groups that scream tolerance the loudest are often the most intolerant people you will find.
 

Praxis1452

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because it was a bigoted comment. should we simply tolerate anything? the pussification of america is in the acceptance of every thought and idea even when they are contradictory. Even when they are close to unjustifiable. Even when they are bigoted. That's the pussification of america. I may be a relativist which means I believe all ideas are equal in truth objectively I still contend that their is a subjective truth.
 

Minerva

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Because celebs, personalities, pro athletes, etc. should have better control when behind the mic. PERIOD.
 

Praxis1452

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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.

Voltaire. Enough said.

there's also a right to criticize his ideas. the ability is not the idea.
 

n7

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Originally posted by: michaels
It seems to me the groups that scream tolerance the loudest are often the most intolerant people you will find.

Bingo.
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.

Voltaire. Enough said.

there's also a right to criticize his ideas. the ability is not the idea.

Exactly. It's his right to say what he wants to say, and it's everyone else's right to agree or disagree with it.
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: michaels
Would the outrage be the same if a gay or non-Christian said something similar about Christians? I think not.

I can almost guarantee there'd be plenty of pro-Christian groups raising just as loud a stink about such a comment.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: michaels
I personally have no problem with gays, but I am not gonna cry over some guy I don't even know giving his opinion. America is becoming a pussified nation. What's next? hate speech laws? Anyone who dares even not agree with homosexuality is fined or jailed?

The pussies are the ones who see someone say hateful things about a segment of society and do not object.
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: michaels
It seems to me the groups that scream tolerance the loudest are often the most intolerant people you will find.

Amen.