why is everyone dancing around the true question.. female orgasms = pregnancy?

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zanejohnson

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that's it..

simple as that..

does an orgasm increase the chance of pregnancy??

if so.. then yes, a woman should have to carry a rape baby to term, and yes, the rapist should get visitation rights...
 
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zanejohnson

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Put the pipe down man, just put it down.

answer it... all that's in me is caffeine, not even any alcohol.. this is a sane question..

does a girl have to orgasm??

can a girl orgasm if she doesnt enjoy it? i can't...

or maybe we are animals, and rape... should be allowed.
 

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A human female may orgasm during a given incidence of sexual intercourse, and the male can also release his sperm, but unless that event is in very close proximity to the female dropping her egg from the fallopian tubes, the male sperm cells will simply die in the highly toxic female vagina and uterus. And the female egg cell has a similar limited viability time line too.

Lots of variables, as the odds that any given males sperm cell will reach the egg is vanishingly small. And if the rapist or husband does not have a high and viable sperm count, the odd plummets again.
 

zanejohnson

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A human female may orgasm during a given incidence of sexual intercourse, and the male can also release his sperm, but unless that event is in very close proximity to the female dropping her egg from the fallopian tubes, the male sperm cells will simply die in the highly toxic female vagina and uterus. And the female egg cell has a similar limited viability time line too.

Lots of variables, as the odds that any given males sperm cell will reach the egg is vanishingly small. And if the rapist or husband does not have a high and viable sperm count, the odd plummets again.

but what about the female orgasm???

does it help in pregnancy?

is so, there is such thing as a woman enjoying rape...
 

MixMasterTang

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Yes, how do you think women who go to sperm banks get pregnant. Or look at invitro fertilization.
 

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A woman could end up enjoying the rape on some level, but it might be analogous to laughing when you're tickled. The action is invoking a bodily, reflexive response. It doesn't mean you wanted to be tickled or liked it, same with the rape.

Rape taps into primal things for both men and women, this is why dominance fantasy is prevalent for both genders, from the romance novels with the dashing rogue to the more extreme and explicit male-targeted versions on porn sites. But in a civilized society, filled with complex, thinking individuals of both genders, the only proper way to indulge these primal instincts and fantasies is in a consensual fashion, role playing, whatever you need to do.

Just because a response can be invoked in the body does not mean the person, and by person I mean who they are MENTALLY wanted it or enjoyed it, I think the tickling example is apt.

It might give people quite a rush and a great feeling to narrowly survive me making an attempt on their life... it might even make them appreciate the rest of their life and carpe the diem and all that, it might be the turnaround they needed to stop being depressed or in a slump. Who knows? None of this can be a justification for me running around and pretending to nearly kill people, with them thinking the attempt was genuine.

Behaviors not compatible with civilized society.
 

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answer it... all that's in me is caffeine, not even any alcohol.. this is a sane question..

does a girl have to orgasm??

can a girl orgasm if she doesnt enjoy it? i can't...

or maybe we are animals, and rape... should be allowed.

The rapee (the catcher, not just the pitcher) can ejaculate in male-male rape.
 

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Are you a GOP candidate for the House of Representatives?
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Don't be so limited in your thinking, after all, both Atkins and Murdock are running for the US Senate.

As for me, I have always dreamed of running for the President of Vice on the rapist political party platform.

But please don't tell my wife I said that, or she will bop me over the head with a frying pan again.
 

zanejohnson

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A woman could end up enjoying the rape on some level, but it might be analogous to laughing when you're tickled. The action is invoking a bodily, reflexive response. It doesn't mean you wanted to be tickled or liked it, same with the rape.

Rape taps into primal things for both men and women, this is why dominance fantasy is prevalent for both genders, from the romance novels with the dashing rogue to the more extreme and explicit male-targeted versions on porn sites. But in a civilized society, filled with complex, thinking individuals of both genders, the only proper way to indulge these primal instincts and fantasies is in a consensual fashion, role playing, whatever you need to do.

Just because a response can be invoked in the body does not mean the person, and by person I mean who they are MENTALLY wanted it or enjoyed it, I think the tickling example is apt.

It might give people quite a rush and a great feeling to narrowly survive me making an attempt on their life... it might even make them appreciate the rest of their life and carpe the diem and all that, it might be the turnaround they needed to stop being depressed or in a slump. Who knows? None of this can be a justification for me running around and pretending to nearly kill people, with them thinking the attempt was genuine.

Behaviors not compatible with civilized society.


see, then if the female can enjoy.. we're all lieing to ourselves.. and it is a gift from God rape.
 

shira

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that's it..

simple as that..

does an orgasm increase the chance of pregnancy??

if so.. then yes, a woman should have to carry a rape baby to term, and yes, the rapist should get visitation rights...

Your argument is illogical. Even if having an orgasm increases the probability of becoming pregnant (a claim not supported by the evidence), it doesn't follow that the ONLY way to get pregnant is to have an orgasm.

Your argument is analogous to claiming that since driving at least 20 MPH over the speed limit increases the probability of getting into an accident, everyone who gets in an accident must have driven at least 20 MPH over the speed limit.
 

zanejohnson

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i just can't honestly make myself believe that abortion is right in any way shape or form..

it takes two humans, and God, to make a baby.. once you know about the baby, and you kill it... your a murderer.. simple as that.. thou shalt not kill.
 

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There is no God and at 7 billion and counting human life is cheap and getting cheaper. Abortion, especially among undesirables, is a good thing.

Though I will agree a good, stable couple who would have raised a child well having an abortion is still unfortunate.

Quantity is rising, quality is dropping.
 

zanejohnson

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there is definitely a God.. if you've never witnessed it, then i can't answer any further than that..

but "I" know it exists...

he carried me through a hellish drug addiction, an overdose, AND flesh eating bacteria.. i was dead for 20 hours, and i'm still here.. or..i'm a ghost or the undead.

he/it is real.
 

Geosurface

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I am unimpressed by your devout testimony. I've heard it from too many variations of the theism meme to think it could be indicative of anything except a common weakness of people to be superstitious.

I'm glad you made it through those things, but I've heard other people who made it through those things and other equally bad things credit it to entirely different superstitions, or no superstitions at all.

In times of hardship, our minds invoke the notions which were already present therein, even if only as seeds of thought.

People see crazy things while dreaming, blacking out, dying, nearly dying, etc. It's your conscious mind's attempt to make sense of meaningless data.

But you aren't going to hear me on this, so I will just say I'm glad it is a source of reassurance for you. And again, I'm glad you made it through those difficulties.
 

zanejohnson

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I am unimpressed by your devout testimony. I've heard it from too many variations of the theism meme to think it could be indicative of anything except a common weakness of people to be superstitious.

I'm glad you made it through those things, but I've heard other people who made it through those things and other equally bad things credit it to entirely different superstitions, or no superstitions at all.

In times of hardship, our minds invoke the notions which were already present therein, even if only as seeds of thought.

People see crazy things while dreaming, blacking out, dying, nearly dying, etc. It's your conscious mind's attempt to make sense of meaningless data.

But you aren't going to hear me on this, so I will just say I'm glad it is a source of reassurance for you. And again, I'm glad you made it through those difficulties.

well thank you sir, and i hope that you witness it in your lifetime.. i'll pray.
 

DucatiMonster696

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The vagina typically is a very acidic environment that is hostile to sperm. However when engaged in the act of sex (voluntarily or not) the female body automatically responds by increasing the production of vaginal fluids which reduces the ph level of the vagina so that enough sperm can survive to allow for a higher chance of pregnancy to occur more easily during the act of sex (again forced or not).

As for orgasims and woman are concerned they are far more complicated and arousal actually starts in the frontal cortex of the brain and the orgasim itself is occurs and happens as function brain activity. Whereas for men arousal can be caused just by physical sensations on the penis's nerve endings alone and the act of ejaculation can occur without a man being aroused mentally.

In essence you could essentially detach a man's head from his body and keep his body alive via medical means and the penis would still function as designed and become aroused and engorged with blood and eventually ejaculate sperm. Where as orgasims for women are far more complicated affairs and require more effort to induce because the brain plays a larger role in inducing a orgasim in a woman then it does with a man.

As to whether or not a baby should be carried to term due to rape or no rape cases, etc is not and should not be up to government to decided.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Your argument is illogical. Even if having an orgasm increases the probability of becoming pregnant (a claim not supported by the evidence), it doesn't follow that the ONLY way to get pregnant is to have an orgasm.

Ahh, but it has been demonstrated that women who lie horizontal after sex do have a higher chance of becoming pregnant than those who do not. So if we were to substitute "if the woman falls asleep after sex" for orgasm, that would fit his argument, which shows just how scary the original premise is.
 

Agent11

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ffs don't give the vaginofascists any ideas or we'll all be headless pleasure bots by spring.
 
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