Why is conservative talk radio so popular?

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Juddog

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Originally posted by: lupi
Lol, love the dumbass leftist showing themselves here. Cause they're afraid of all the jews and Gays, lol, that shits priceless.

Just have to remember to link this thread next time the tribal numnuts start blaming someone for being a hack cause they don't follow their narrow views.

Woah yet another dumb post from Lupi what a surprise. I'll be reading a thread and all of a sudden someone posts something utterly retarded, I look over at the username and what do you know, it's Lupi again, surprise!

At least CADsortaGUY and ProfJon make some attempt to back up their statements; Lupi just comes out of the gate like a runner at the Special Olympics.
 

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Originally posted by: Tab
At my job, I have the supposed luxury of helping out various rural farmers with their IT equipment. After several months on the job one thing has stuck out in particular - Rush/Hannity/etc playing on the office radio and requests to make FoxNews the homepage.

Now, my town (Fargo, ND) has a new conservative radio station - The Flag AM 1100. I don't know if it's true or not but it's apparently quite successful.

Why?

I listened for a few minutes in the car about how Obama is so far left he isn't even mainstream left. How coal power isn't bad and the "libs" are trying to hold back - followed by some Coal Companies advertisement. Then it continued to a host and a caller discussing how the Republican Party has left Bush in the dust and isn't defending him - I turned it off a this point.

There's obliviously some kind of fundamental difference between liberal and conservative but I don't understand why "Joe Schmoe" on the radio is trusted and a several-page article in NYT by an scholarly figure isn't believed. How rumors of Obama being a Muslim are spread and believed from a simple e-mail from a co-worker.

No wonder the rest of the world think we're idiots...

beacuse TV and movies are soo liberal..
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:


Precisely the kind of denial I pointed out, CSG.

You prove my point by having it fly way, way over your head...

Ofcourse your post proves my point. But you'll not admit it. You see, a bunch of pointy headed libs trying to explain why Conservatives listen to the radio is pretty F'n retarded. You make all sorts of unfounded accusation and sweeping generalizations to malign both radio and the people listening. I guess if it makes you feel better to hate on talk radio... go for it junior. :)

Yeah because if you aren't part of a group there's no way you could have insight into it. That's why sociologists don't exist.

So, by all means explain why you listen to these morons on the radio. The people screaming about how Obama is a socialist, how the left is a bunch of traitors for not supporting the war, how liberals are going to get us all killed because they are against expanded police powers. I'd love to know what people think they get out of the Ann Coulters, Michael Savages, and Michelle Malkins of the world.

I see the results of it all the time on here with people saying dumb things like "liberals don't like facts", and "liberals can never win on the issues". Stupid statements that are obviously cribbed from something they read or heard.

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Robor
The simple answer is ClearChannel.

I've scanned AM radio where I live (Tampa Bay area) and I haven't found a single host let alone channel that isn't far right.

One person that sees that MRR corporations own the airwaves this the brainwashing.

The rest join the circle jerk.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Genx87

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
I'd like to think thats because those 2 people in particular are so radical that even they wouldnt have an audience on the airwaves.



 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Genx87

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
I'd like to think thats because those 2 people in particular are so radical that even they wouldnt have an audience on the airwaves.

Well he does have a point though, as this thread is about right wing talk radio. I'm not sure about Michelle Malkin, but I do know that Ann Coulter is a frequent guest on talk radio though. I think the fundamental point isn't really changed that much though, as there's no shortage of people on the radio with views as toxic, or nearly as toxic as those two idiots.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Genx87

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
I'd like to think thats because those 2 people in particular are so radical that even they wouldnt have an audience on the airwaves.

Regardless they arent on talk radio so why mention them? It would be like me claiming how can liberals listen to Air America with the Pol Pots and Stalins of the world blabbing away.

Coulter and Malkin are bomb throwers. Many people on talk radio are not bomb throwers. They simply have a right tilted point of view. And one also needs to realize these are not news shows. They are commentary shows. You listen to get that kind of slanted view. Consider it the editorial page of the NYT on radio.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Genx87

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
I'd like to think thats because those 2 people in particular are so radical that even they wouldnt have an audience on the airwaves.

Well he does have a point though, as this thread is about right wing talk radio. I'm not sure about Michelle Malkin, but I do know that Ann Coulter is a frequent guest on talk radio though. I think the fundamental point isn't really changed that much though, as there's no shortage of people on the radio with views as toxic, or nearly as toxic as those two idiots.

I listened to savage one night and the guy is plain out of his mind. The other big ones I can list.

Hannity- Talking head for the republican party
Rush- A parody of himself
Bill Oreilley- The most balanced of the group contrary to popular left myth. The guy will and has blasted the right on many issues.
Laura Ingram- Bitter conservative.
Michael Medved- Love this guy, partisan debater. His format is very enjoyable to listen to. I like disagreement day and conspiracy day.

The rest I havent listened to get an idea what they are like. Of the above group the only one I listen to anymore is Medved. I havent listened to bill in about 9 months and the rest in years. Probably about the end of 04 early 05 when I had to turn off the radio over their banter it was a mandate on the conservative movement what happened with bush being reelected and the repubs picked up seats. All I saw was the edge of the cliff coming.

But I dont see any of these people like Malkin or Coulter. They are right leaning but not bomb throwing trolls.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Genx87
One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.

True, however Coulter, Savage and Malkin are quite often guests and their articles/books/etc are discussed often on the shows.
 

DefDC

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I didn't follow any politics until I started college in '91. I had a favorable memory of Reagan, so, if anything, I had a very slight right leaning slant. The same time I started to educate myself on the issues, I was laid up with a surgery and was in bed for over 2 weeks. Due to the meds, I wasn't able to sleep, so I watched a lot of TV. This was in the early 90s when Rush had his TV show. Even after I had recovered, I continued to watch.

The reason? I couldn't believe the amount of lies, mistruths, and misleading statements he'd spew. I'd actually have fun, taking one of his talking points, researching, and find the EXACT OPPOSITE to be true. HE was the one that lead me to buy Al Franken's "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot". What a great book.

I did find my views to be somewhat left leaning, but in this whole process, I've learned to distrust EVERYONE. No one source will give you the straight information.

I did observe that right wing talk shows have a HUGE amount of thinly veiled hate speech. That will attract a lot of people. A lot of people think it's "funny". However, it's a tactic to dehumanize the opposition. IMO it's insanely unhealthy and unAmerican, and, unfortunately, very profitable. It's a great way push awful public policy on masses that it adversely affects. But, I guess that's price we pay for free speech.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Genx87
One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.

True, however Coulter, Savage and Malkin are quite often guests and their articles/books/etc are discussed often on the shows.

Being a guest and hosting a show are not in any shape or form the same thing. I am sure there are lots of left wing bomb throwers on air america. Does that really mean anything?

btw Arianna Huffington was a frequent guest of Bill Oreilly. Does that change the tune and make him leftist? :D

 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Genx87

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
I'd like to think thats because those 2 people in particular are so radical that even they wouldnt have an audience on the airwaves.

Regardless they arent on talk radio so why mention them? It would be like me claiming how can liberals listen to Air America with the Pol Pots and Stalins of the world blabbing away.

Coulter and Malkin are bomb throwers. Many people on talk radio are not bomb throwers. They simply have a right tilted point of view. And one also needs to realize these are not news shows. They are commentary shows. You listen to get that kind of slanted view. Consider it the editorial page of the NYT on radio.
NO I absolutely disagree.

ON the way to work today gallagher laid the current economic mess on Obama, he and some republican house congressman both claimed that a vote for Obama will be more of the same 8 year economic strategy. I sat there thinking to myself wtf does THAT mean? These guys are on the radio and they are constantly talking about how the Dems are going to ruin this country. They are constantly talking about how the Dems have no morals. They go on and on about how the Dems are the big government party..bla bla bla.

Well maybe its just this election season, because thats when I started listening to these guys. But they just throttle anything libral or leftist on almost a per minute basis over the airwaves.

As far as attempting to make the distinction between news and commentary shows..thats pointless..because people listen to these shows to get thier news anyway. Same argument has been made against the Daily Show or Colbert Report...yes we all know its comedy, but realistically speaking people get their news from these outlets.

So call it what you want.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Genx87

One should note 2 of the 3 people you mentioned dont have talk radio shows.
I'd like to think thats because those 2 people in particular are so radical that even they wouldnt have an audience on the airwaves.

Well he does have a point though, as this thread is about right wing talk radio. I'm not sure about Michelle Malkin, but I do know that Ann Coulter is a frequent guest on talk radio though. I think the fundamental point isn't really changed that much though, as there's no shortage of people on the radio with views as toxic, or nearly as toxic as those two idiots.

I listened to savage one night and the guy is plain out of his mind. The other big ones I can list.

Hannity- Talking head for the republican party
Rush- A parody of himself
Bill Oreilley- The most balanced of the group contrary to popular left myth. The guy will and has blasted the right on many issues.
Laura Ingram- Bitter conservative.
Michael Medved- Love this guy, partisan debater. His format is very enjoyable to listen to. I like disagreement day and conspiracy day.

The rest I havent listened to get an idea what they are like. Of the above group the only one I listen to anymore is Medved. I havent listened to bill in about 9 months and the rest in years. Probably about the end of 04 early 05 when I had to turn off the radio over their banter it was a mandate on the conservative movement what happened with bush being reelected and the repubs picked up seats. All I saw was the edge of the cliff coming.

But I dont see any of these people like Malkin or Coulter. They are right leaning but not bomb throwing trolls.
here in Sacramento I get:

Hannity
Rush
Hewitt
Gallegher
Savage
Ingram
Medved
Sullivan

and of that list, I agree that Medved is the most sensible. Sullivan is right there with him, I think he is local to norcal though. with hugh hewitt you can tell he is an intelligent person, but he sometimes lets the radical get the best of him.

Ingram and Gallegher are the worst and they are radical, imo they shouldnt be on the radio. Its like giving matches to children, and unfortunately there are dumb people in this country that burn themselves everyday (yes dumb libs and dumb cons)

Rush and Hannity are almost like GOP companymen. They clock in, rail against the libral media and the libral agenda, then clock out.

Savage is meh...he likes to tout his independance streak, he rants alot.
 

Moonbeam

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We're talking about a group of people here, so sheltered, no naive, so culturally backward, so provincial, so ingrown, so deprived and so six fingered, that they lose control of their thought processes when they hear the The New Abraham Lincoln's first name, lose control of their gag function when they hear his last name, and control over their sphincter muscles when their hear his middle name. They need some place to rave, vomit, and crap, wouldn't you say? ;)
 

Genx87

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If people listen to a commentary show for their news that is their fault not the talk shows fault. Would you go to the editorial page in the paper to get your news?!?!?!?!?!?!?

And likewise if anybody is really going to the dailyshow for news they get what they deserve. I watch the dailyshow because of the humor, not because i need to find out why our banking industry took a shit.

And perhaps that is the problem with this country. People are going to comedy and commentary shows for their news?

 

piasabird

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People seek the truth and the Network Media Outlets are not giving that to people.

There are no journalists left in the media!

I dont particularly care for Fox. I like Micheal Savage more than people like Shawn Hannity. So I like to listen to a variety of sources. Sometimes I think the local talk shows are more revelent becuase the bow into less political correctness.

 

TechAZ

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With the exception of Savage....I truly find the "progressive" radio hosts entirely too hateful and vile compared to Rush and Hannity. I actually listen to Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy more than Rush or Hannity, and unless one is completely blinded in politics you can clearly see how the those on progressive radio are not doing well. Savage's ratings are more from his style than his substance I believe.

One cannot possibly make the case that conservative radio is just full of lies and progressive radio is not. I see the same very lame attempts at truth and facts from the left as the conservative talking heads make....only they make the case with such vitriol and hate.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Genx87

btw Arianna Huffington was a frequent guest of Bill Oreilly.

Does that change the tune and make him leftist? :D

Was is the keyword

She used his influence until she became popular enough and enough money she was then able to distance herself from him.

I suspect they had an intimate tie early on, maybe still do.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Genx87
If people listen to a commentary show for their news that is their fault not the talk shows fault. Would you go to the editorial page in the paper to get your news?!?!?!?!?!?!?

And likewise if anybody is really going to the dailyshow for news they get what they deserve. I watch the dailyshow because of the humor, not because i need to find out why our banking industry took a shit.

And perhaps that is the problem with this country. People are going to comedy and commentary shows for their news?
Hey Im not saying its right. But to think some people aren't getting "informed" by these outlets is foolish.

And here is the kicker. you KNOW people are using these outlets to be more "informed" because you see people repeating the same bullshit propaganda that is on these shows.

Maybe we can talk a little bit about a chicken/egg phenomena here...but the fact of the matter is when the news picks up stories about how Obama is a muslim, and then 8-10 months later you still have Gallegher and Hannity phone callers talking on air about how they dont trust Obama because he is a muslim..I don't hear the radio show hosts doing their best to mitigate those issues, rather they promulgate those stories and false claims.

I know someone who listens to Hannity, Ingram, Rush, and Savage and she STILL believes Obama is a Muslim that isnt even American born and qualified to run for POTUS.

SO if people are using these radio shows to be "more informed" ala news outlets...yes its their fault. But if these radio shows aren't doing anything to mitigate things like Obama being a Muslim, or Obama wants to teach 5 year olds about sex, or voting for Libs will bring the end of the country, or Dems are unamerican and they hate america...really who is being responsible here?

my answer is, no one.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: TechAZ
With the exception of Savage....I truly find the "progressive" radio hosts entirely too hateful and vile compared to Rush and Hannity. I actually listen to Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy more than Rush or Hannity, and unless one is completely blinded in politics you can clearly see how the those on progressive radio are not doing well. Savage's ratings are more from his style than his substance I believe.

One cannot possibly make the case that conservative radio is just full of lies and progressive radio is not. I see the same very lame attempts at truth and facts from the left as the conservative talking heads make....only they make the case with such vitriol and hate.

no one is making the case that left is right and right is wrong.

you are making too broad an assumption. And you look foolish.

And if you listen to Gallegher and Ingram, you know that they are vitrol and hate defined.
 

piasabird

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Savage was kind of shocking to listen to at first. However, I find him to be very intelligent, even if he is a bit over the edge sometimes. He is more dramatic than he is hateful.
 

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With freedom comes responsibility. Freedom of speech should not be given to corporations who advertise because they will always support those with the most gullible audiences. Left wing radio doesn't work very well because advertisers can't sell to liberals. They are too kool-aid immune. What commercial interests want is an audience of sheep and they find it among the ignorant and religiously pre-programmed.

What is sad is that when you empower and give ammunition to the backward they bring everybody down. It should not be legal for any program that used the people's airwaves, to present only one side of an issue. The ultimate effect will be a nation of fools and morons who vote for their own kind. All sides, all issues need to be held up to the light and examined from all sides. Only a broad spectrum of views and opinions keep the mind from fixation and fanaticism. This is why population density creates liberals. They discriminate and judge among massive amounts of life experiences and exposures, relatively speaking. The rural are feed through a conservative radio tube and are profoundly brainwashed and ignorant of what's really going on.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
With freedom comes responsibility. Freedom of speech should not be given to corporations who advertise because they will always support those with the most gullible audiences. Left wing radio doesn't work very well because advertisers can't sell to liberals. They are too kool-aid immune. What commercial interests want is an audience of sheep and they find it among the ignorant and religiously pre-programmed.

What is sad is that when you empower and give ammunition to the backward they bring everybody down. It should not be legal for any program that used the people's airwaves, to present only one side of an issue. The ultimate effect will be a nation of fools and morons who vote for their own kind. All sides, all issues need to be held up to the light and examined from all sides. Only a broad spectrum of views and opinions keep the mind from fixation and fanaticism. This is why population density creates liberals. They discriminate and judge among massive amounts of life experiences and exposures, relatively speaking. The rural are feed through a conservative radio tube and are profoundly brainwashed and ignorant of what's really going on.

Ah yes, the we are liberal, we are informed, we are enlighten, we know better....



That is the kind of thinking that has screwed over my town economically, and needlessly endangered people's lives - all because 'the enlighten' know better. The enlighten ignored the rural local's opinion because they already know what is best. The enlighten pass the rules, even though the enlighten don't live under them.

As proven by this thread, the so called enlighten, aren't such - they isolate themselves more then those they accuse of the same thing. People and things they don't understand they call dumb, stupid, bigoted, hateful, etc - that is not enlightenment, it is ignorance laced with arrogance.

...what is the mantra you repeat so often? People hate what they they see in themselves? I often wonder if your dog catching career has never been so fulfilling.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
With freedom comes responsibility. Freedom of speech should not be given to corporations who advertise because they will always support those with the most gullible audiences. Left wing radio doesn't work very well because advertisers can't sell to liberals. They are too kool-aid immune. What commercial interests want is an audience of sheep and they find it among the ignorant and religiously pre-programmed.

What is sad is that when you empower and give ammunition to the backward they bring everybody down. It should not be legal for any program that used the people's airwaves, to present only one side of an issue. The ultimate effect will be a nation of fools and morons who vote for their own kind. All sides, all issues need to be held up to the light and examined from all sides. Only a broad spectrum of views and opinions keep the mind from fixation and fanaticism. This is why population density creates liberals. They discriminate and judge among massive amounts of life experiences and exposures, relatively speaking. The rural are feed through a conservative radio tube and are profoundly brainwashed and ignorant of what's really going on.

Ah yes, the we are liberal, we are informed, we are enlighten, we know better....



That is the kind of thinking that has screwed over my town economically, and needlessly endangered people's lives - all because 'the enlighten' know better. The enlighten ignored the rural local's opinion because they already know what is best. The enlighten pass the rules, even though the enlighten don't live under them.

As proven by this thread, the so called enlighten, aren't such - they isolate themselves more then those they accuse of the same thing. People and things they don't understand they call dumb, stupid, bigoted, hateful, etc - that is not enlightenment, it is ignorance laced with arrogance.

...what is the mantra you repeat so often? People hate what they they see in themselves? I often wonder if your dog catching career has never been so fulfilling.
You are referring to the radio shows in the bolded?

 

shrumpage

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Robor
The simple answer is ClearChannel.

I've scanned AM radio where I live (Tampa Bay area) and I haven't found a single host let alone channel that isn't far right.

One person that sees that MRR corporations own the airwaves this the brainwashing.

The rest join the circle jerk.

This is where you people are dead wrong.

If there was a liberal talk host who could pull in listeners, he would be on every market. Not because his politics are left leaning but the show is engaging and the host compelling.

Howard Stern would get most right wing conservatives all riled up - yet he had millions of listeners and in hundreds of markets.

I think part of the problem is conservative radio has been built up over decades. Hosts have slowly built up their audiences, perfecting their craft. Rush pioneered the format made it successful. Once something is proven to make money, more people will pursue it.

You can't throw some liberal on the air and expect millions of people to tune in instantly, its not going to happen. It is going to take a talented left leaning host years to built up an audience before he/she can spread to other markets and finally pave the way for a similar format.