Why is conservative talk radio so popular?

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Vic

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: alchemize
Simple answer now that the diatriabe of trolls an elitists has rolled in (topped off by boyowar821 who never fails to represent).

The older you are, the more likely you are to be conservative.
The older you are, the more likely you are to listen to the radio.
Baby Boomers.

The older you are, the more likely you are to be live and let live.
The older you are, the more likely to value other's opinions.
Some grow wiser as they grow older, some just grow a shell.

An interesting side note about this. While you are more likely to be conservative when you are older, it's not because you have become more conservative than you were when you were younger. The world is almost always becoming more liberal as things change, the thing is that people don't change as much as the world around them does. So yes, they appear more conservative as they are older... but it's only because they haven't kept up. They've still become more liberal themselves.

Source.

To put this into scientific perspective, there were scientists who went to their graves claiming Einstein was a fraud and a liar. His relativity could not be true. Then Einstein went to his own grave claiming Max Born was wrong. His quantum mechanics could not be true!
And at the level of the rest of us, your grandpa still can't use email or a cell phone properly.
Politics is little different.
 

Colt45

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TV is too progressive for them. :p


Pa, fire up that there 'ol tube raddy-o so we cun hear 'bout 'merica!! ;)
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Because liberalism ruins everything it touches and regular people know it. They favor the enemy over the homeland, the criminal over the victim, the degenerate over the normal, the dysfunctional over the exceptional, the emotional arguments over the rational. Why have schools failed and dumbed-down kids? Because liberals run them. Why has the family disintegrated? Because liberals pulverized it with their own need to recover a good image of themselves. Being spiritual criminal themselves inwardly they outwardly support our enemies because they share the same nature. Of course conservatives can be corrupt as well but as a class libs are almost mutated. Rational people know gov is a problem and not a solution. Thye know high taxes and stupid over-regulation kills economy. They know homosexual marriage is a charade ( a person really needs to by hypnotized to believe that's normal ) and the same is true of global warming. Libs are like a conductor thats fallen into the orchestra and they get trapped in their own thinking and feeling - actually avoiding easy answers to stay lost chewing the mental cud of rationalizations they use to block reality out. Now we have financial collapse due in part to libs giving away mortgages to illegals and bad credit risks. Capitalist financial institutions were warped into social engineering functions and now they are broken. Libs always say they care about the "little guy" but they "help" just to see themselves in a good compensatory light. If something isn't broke they cant fix it so they ah heck things up and then rush in with another bogus solution. They like to play god basically and only end up screwing things up more after trying to fix things in all the wrong ways. When people have a choice they reject liberal media that vomits on them day in and day out. The lib media is dying from this.

Thank you for the fine example of the Fascist Creed. Just what was your source material??

Why can't you credit that he wrote this himself from his own finely rehearsed and analyzed point of view. I find it to be a deep and honest and extremely useful expression of a whole way of seeing. It would strike me as extremely valuable for any liberal to consider each point to see how he or she would answer it and also to know how deep are the feelings.

I see this as a clearly express world view from the point of an ego that has arrogated to itself the wrath of an absolute God in a war of good against evil. I see a person so frightened by Satin, so sure he's with God, that he has become what he fears. Butterbean, I believe, is mad with certainty because he lacks the humility of doubt and also doesn't like being vomited on.

I admire the forthrightness and force with which he fights back. The world view, I don't think so.

My guess is that at the heart of the divide that separates liberals from conservatives is a difference in opinion on the true nature of man. I think the conservatives believe man is evil by nature and only redeemable by God and that liberals believe that we are born good and corrupted by false ideas.

What makes liberals and conservatives the same, in my opinion, is that while each believes in evil, both believe they themselves are good. I take a different point of view. I believe that as is, neither is any good and there is no such thing as evil. The world is absolutely perfect as it is and always has been.

There are only mad men fighting a war that does not exist.

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bozack

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Originally posted by: Vic
I don't watch the Daily Show (or ANY televised or radio news media), but at least Stewart doesn't lie about the fact that his show is entertainment, and not news.

That's a big difference IMO. All these entertainment-as-news shows, whether Daily Show, CNN, Fox, Rush, or the local evening news, exist purely to meet an emotional need. Basically, you're all drug addicts IMO. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as a libertarian I have always believed in ending the war on drugs. But it sure would be nice if people were more self-aware that they watch one show because they're addicted to outrage, or another because they're addicted to the adrenaline rush of fear, and so forth.

Vic, the local one here always emphasizes that they are in it for entertainment and not serious journalism.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Vic
I don't watch the Daily Show (or ANY televised or radio news media), but at least Stewart doesn't lie about the fact that his show is entertainment, and not news.

That's a big difference IMO. All these entertainment-as-news shows, whether Daily Show, CNN, Fox, Rush, or the local evening news, exist purely to meet an emotional need. Basically, you're all drug addicts IMO. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as a libertarian I have always believed in ending the war on drugs. But it sure would be nice if people were more self-aware that they watch one show because they're addicted to outrage, or another because they're addicted to the adrenaline rush of fear, and so forth.

Vic, the local one here always emphasizes that they are in it for entertainment and not serious journalism.
Conservatives in MA are different than Conservatives in PA, Indiana and the Bible Belt. They actually elected a Governor from a fringe religion, I doubt outside of Utah that a Mormon would get elected anywhere else

 

Jhhnn

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Thank you, Vic. "Addicted to Fear and Outrage" pretty much covers the subject, and explains a great deal.

It's like alcoholism or drug addiction, except that the chemical changes in the victim's brain aren't caused by chemical agents, but rather by rhetoric. When confronted, the subject enters denial, seeks greater relief in the very behavior causing the problem in the first place. The circle is closed, reinforcing itself. As with alcoholism, it's explained only by looking at it from the disease/ mental defect POV.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:

 

Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:


Precisely the kind of denial I pointed out, CSG.

You prove my point by having it fly way, way over your head...
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:


Precisely the kind of denial I pointed out, CSG.

You prove my point by having it fly way, way over your head...

Ofcourse your post proves my point. But you'll not admit it. You see, a bunch of pointy headed libs trying to explain why Conservatives listen to the radio is pretty F'n retarded. You make all sorts of unfounded accusation and sweeping generalizations to malign both radio and the people listening. I guess if it makes you feel better to hate on talk radio... go for it junior. :)
 

GTKeeper

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Bottom line is Fear....

I have several friends that are conservative talk show listeners, I see myself as a total centrist with strict fiscal conservatism (just in case I get called a flaming liberal). One of my friends in particular listens to Rush every day.

We were debating the war in Iraq, and she said that we are there, and while we are there we should probably kill as many Muslims as we can, while we can.

I don't see her as a terrible person, but just fearful of almost everything. She thinks that everything is a 'conspiracy' and some kind of 'liberal agenda' hell bent on ruining the country.


Remember, that these 'conservatives' are the EXACT same group of people that opposed the civil rights movement and women's right to vote. I think you can honestly say that the hard, hard right are people that are simply afraid of change so people like Rush and Hannity make them feel better. And you know what, Rush and Hannity are scared too... this explains their periodical blow-ups on TV/radio.
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Bottom line is Fear....

I have several friends that are conservative talk show listeners, I see myself as a total centrist with strict fiscal conservatism (just in case I get called a flaming liberal). One of my friends in particular listens to Rush every day.

We were debating the war in Iraq, and she said that we are there, and while we are there we should probably kill as many Muslims as we can, while we can.

I don't see her as a terrible person, but just fearful of almost everything. She thinks that everything is a 'conspiracy' and some kind of 'liberal agenda' hell bent on ruining the country.


Remember, that these 'conservatives' are the EXACT same group of people that opposed the civil rights movement and women's right to vote. I think you can honestly say that the hard, hard right are people that are simply afraid of change so people like Rush and Hannity make them feel better. And you know what, Rush and Hannity are scared too... this explains their periodical blow-ups on TV/radio.

Some change we are wise to be scared of.
 

GTKeeper

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Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Bottom line is Fear....

I have several friends that are conservative talk show listeners, I see myself as a total centrist with strict fiscal conservatism (just in case I get called a flaming liberal). One of my friends in particular listens to Rush every day.

We were debating the war in Iraq, and she said that we are there, and while we are there we should probably kill as many Muslims as we can, while we can.

I don't see her as a terrible person, but just fearful of almost everything. She thinks that everything is a 'conspiracy' and some kind of 'liberal agenda' hell bent on ruining the country.


Remember, that these 'conservatives' are the EXACT same group of people that opposed the civil rights movement and women's right to vote. I think you can honestly say that the hard, hard right are people that are simply afraid of change so people like Rush and Hannity make them feel better. And you know what, Rush and Hannity are scared too... this explains their periodical blow-ups on TV/radio.

Some change we are wise to be scared of.


Agreed, but some fear is rational and some is irrational. Fear is also paralyzing and it prevents societal progress.

Ask yourself this, if the presidents during the Cold War were as scared and fearful as some of the devout conservative listeners, how quickly would the big red button be pushed and everything nuked into oblivion? I think trying to push far right / far left ideas into mainstream is a dangerous propostion, but something that Hannity / Rush would LOVE to have happen.
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Let me guess, the best source of news is the Daily Show, amirite?
CNN, BBC, Fox News, CSPAN. I've seen the Daily Show only once. Funny not found.

Your bit on the deep intellectual and scholastic brilliance of Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, et al, however, is a real howler! I especially like how you render Rush's vapid Straw Man attacks as "letting the left show themselves for what they are"! That's like citing Mahmoud Ahmadinajad's deep and honest presentations on the nature of Judaism.

edit: sp

If you don't find this funny you have no sense of humor...
Try this
 

Robor

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The simple answer is ClearChannel. I've scanned AM radio where I live (Tampa Bay area) and I haven't found a single host let alone channel that isn't far right.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Vic
I don't watch the Daily Show (or ANY televised or radio news media), but at least Stewart doesn't lie about the fact that his show is entertainment, and not news.

That's a big difference IMO. All these entertainment-as-news shows, whether Daily Show, CNN, Fox, Rush, or the local evening news, exist purely to meet an emotional need. Basically, you're all drug addicts IMO. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as a libertarian I have always believed in ending the war on drugs. But it sure would be nice if people were more self-aware that they watch one show because they're addicted to outrage, or another because they're addicted to the adrenaline rush of fear, and so forth.

Curious, where you do get your news from?
 

Tab

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:

So, Cad do you usually try to put out fires with Gasoline or is this is just a special occasion? Do you have anything insightful to ad or what?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: alchemize
Simple answer now that the diatriabe of trolls an elitists has rolled in (topped off by boyowar821 who never fails to represent).

The older you are, the more likely you are to be conservative.
The older you are, the more likely you are to listen to the radio.
Baby Boomers.

The older you are, the more likely you are to be live and let live.
The older you are, the more likely to value other's opinions.
Some grow wiser as they grow older, some just grow a shell.

An interesting side note about this. While you are more likely to be conservative when you are older, it's not because you have become more conservative than you were when you were younger. The world is almost always becoming more liberal as things change, the thing is that people don't change as much as the world around them does. So yes, they appear more conservative as they are older... but it's only because they haven't kept up. They've still become more liberal themselves.

Source.

Maybe overall, but some conservative trends are identifiable such as women becoming more pro-life upon the birth of their first child. No, just beocming pro-life doesn't relabel someone from liberal to conservative, but other such swings do happen on other issues as one ages. I mean, I was all for lowering the drinking age when I was 18, now I couldn't give a shit :)
 

DealMonkey

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I just want to point out that we now have the dueling banjo stylings of both Duewlon AND Butterbean in the SAME thread! :Q The entrepreneur in me wants to team them up for a hate radio show and then cash in on the product endorsements and advertisements for hair loss restoration, church-sponsored retreats to fix homosexuality, and John Deere tractors.

But I digress...

I also noticed that no one responded to my challenge of sorts - I admitted that I listen to Rush, Hannity, Larry Elder, etc. in order to get a good dose of the other side's point of view (and to get outraged by the outrage) - how many conservatives listen to Air America on occasion? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:

So, Cad do you usually try to put out fires with Gasoline or is this is just a special occasion? Do you have anything insightful to ad or what?

It's my responsibility to put out the fire? :confused:

 

BMW540I6speed

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Rush Limbaugh and the like has certainly given a generation of people a way of experiencing and venting their unreasoning hatred, offering all the scapegoating a frustrated group of listeners could possibly want, diverting their attention from what's actually making their lives unhappy so that they can feel satisfaction chasing ideological phantasms.

And they made a fortune doing it - snake oil was never more slickly hustled than by Rush Limbaugh et al, so they are quintessentially American in that regard. That Bush & Cheney would call Limbaugh to to congratulate him being on the air for 20 years shows how debased that office has become, and how ripe for change the country is.

Generations of Americans to come, saddled with a collapsing, increased government power, imploding economy and debt-and wage-slavery for their lives and the lives of their children and children's children will no doubt look back on the dominance of the airwaves by Limbaugh et al. and the stranglehold on ideas by the reactionary movement in this country as the origin of their woes.

If they think 80% of American society (aka "their version of society, the liberals") are "the enemy" who must never be compromised with, then they are, un-American Leninist. There are liberals and conservatives in this country, and stuff in-between, and we either find compromises with each other because we're one damn country, or we go our own way.

But by then, ideological descendants of Limbaugh's will be finding new scapegoats and strawmen for people to vent their misplaced American society hating anger upon.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I just want to point out that we now have the dueling banjo stylings of both Duewlon AND Butterbean in the SAME thread! :Q The entrepreneur in me wants to team them up for a hate radio show and then cash in on the product endorsements and advertisements for hair loss restoration, church-sponsored retreats to fix homosexuality, and John Deere tractors.

But I digress...

I also noticed that no one responded to my challenge of sorts - I admitted that I listen to Rush, Hannity, Larry Elder, etc. in order to get a good dose of the other side's point of view (and to get outraged by the outrage) - how many conservatives listen to Air America on occasion? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

Judging by their ratings, how many liberals listen to as well? ;)

 

lupi

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Lol, love the dumbass leftist showing themselves here. Cause they're afraid of all the jews and Gays, lol, that shits priceless.

Just have to remember to link this thread next time the tribal numnuts start blaming someone for being a hack cause they don't follow their narrow views.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You know... a bunch of liberals trying to explain why the conservatives like talk radio makes no sense.

Exactly. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I surmise it'll be chalk full of "people are dumb", "bitter white people", "need opinions given to them", etc etc etc... Typical leftist stereotyping.... but don't label THEM!... :roll:


Precisely the kind of denial I pointed out, CSG.

You prove my point by having it fly way, way over your head...

Ofcourse your post proves my point. But you'll not admit it. You see, a bunch of pointy headed libs trying to explain why Conservatives listen to the radio is pretty F'n retarded. You make all sorts of unfounded accusation and sweeping generalizations to malign both radio and the people listening. I guess if it makes you feel better to hate on talk radio... go for it junior. :)

Yeah because if you aren't part of a group there's no way you could have insight into it. That's why sociologists don't exist.

So, by all means explain why you listen to these morons on the radio. The people screaming about how Obama is a socialist, how the left is a bunch of traitors for not supporting the war, how liberals are going to get us all killed because they are against expanded police powers. I'd love to know what people think they get out of the Ann Coulters, Michael Savages, and Michelle Malkins of the world.

I see the results of it all the time on here with people saying dumb things like "liberals don't like facts", and "liberals can never win on the issues". Stupid statements that are obviously cribbed from something they read or heard.