Why is an "Assault Weapons" Ban even on the table?

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BudAshes

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Perhaps you should look at the number of defensive gun use cases per year. The possibility that guns might be used to defend people from criminals might be shocking to someone like you, but is nevertheless the norm and the major reason people need to have ready access to guns.

I'm fine with people using guns. Where did I say to ban anything? The problem with any argument about this subject is that every retard has to interject.
 

exdeath

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Good job lefties. You put more semi automatic rifles and factory capacity magazines on the streets in a week than would have normally sold in a decade! Pat yourselves on the backs for a job well done.
 

xj0hnx

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exdeath, is digging a deeper trench. Hide away!

Hide away!

-John

It's true though. One of the local gun shops here was literally almost cleaned out in a day. They said they almost sold more guns that day than the previous six months combined.
 

Zorkorist

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It's not pertinent though.

It really doesn't matter who owns guns.

What does matter, is that we have the right to own guns.

-John
 

xj0hnx

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It's not pertinent though.

It really doesn't matter who owns guns.

What does matter, is that we have the right to own guns.

-John

Actually, that is extremely pertinent, who is allowed to own guns is kind of the whole point.
 

Zorkorist

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Politicians may argue about whi can own guns... but the Constitution of the United States, 2nd Amendment, The Bill of Rights, says... "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

-John
 

blankslate

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Good job lefties. You put more semi automatic rifles and factory capacity magazines on the streets in a week than would have normally sold in a decade! Pat yourselves on the backs for a job well done.

Because people buying even more guns rather than worrying about how to keep them out of the hands of mentally unstable people is a useful pursuit. Good job ignoring the real problem righties.
 

xj0hnx

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Because people buying even more guns rather than worrying about how to keep them out of the hands of mentally unstable people is a useful pursuit. Good job ignoring the real problem righties.

Huh? So what? No one should buy a gun until we have solved an unsolvable problem? That's dumb.
 

Farmer

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Because people buying even more guns rather than worrying about how to keep them out of the hands of mentally unstable people is a useful pursuit. Good job ignoring the real problem righties.

They were motivated to because every liberal pundit or politician started to wave the ban flag. Many of them were first time gun buyers. Many of them were probably politically left-leaning. If the politicians and pundits would stop suggesting ludicrous measures that have no hope of doing anything, maybe this wouldn't happen.
 

cwjerome

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I have never seen a run on AR-15s, magazines, and bulk ammo like this. Ever. Wow. At least some of the stuff is backorderable before prices really go up, although mags are already stupid high. Some of the sales stats I've heard in the last couple weeks is unreal. Things bumped a bit after the tragedy but went full apeshit once people started talking bans.
 

Farmer

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I only recently got into ARs, but I managed to get in my hands 8 translucent Lancer AWMs before the panic. That's all I have.

I have 6 M3 Pmags, 2 more Lancers, and 10 anti-tilt USGIs on backorder, but who knows if those orders will ever be filled.
 

buckshot24

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Because people buying even more guns rather than worrying about how to keep them out of the hands of mentally unstable people is a useful pursuit. Good job ignoring the real problem righties.
Them buying these guns didn't help with childhood obesity either. Damn righties!
 

Engineer

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At least it's good for the economy. Gun and magazine manufacturers have never had better sales.

Real question: Does anyone know where these guns are made? Are the guns and ammo made here or imported mostly?

Oh, and when I saw on CNBC that there were more gun dealers in the US than McDonalds, I was somewhat surprised. Of course, they didn't break it down to whether stores like WalMart were included or not (I assume that they are).
 

Farmer

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Real question: Does anyone know where these guns are made? Are the guns and ammo made here or imported mostly?

Oh, and when I saw on CNBC that there were more gun dealers in the US than McDonalds, I was somewhat surprised. Of course, they didn't break it down to whether stores like WalMart were included or not (I assume that they are).

I would think they are overwhelmingly domestic production. Even foreign brands like Glock, SIG, and Beretta are produced domestically (though, of course, these are foreign companies). I think I've heard $30 billion economic impact (wages), $5 billion per annum in tax revenue state and federal.

As for number of gun dealers, yes, most Wal-Mart, Dick's Sporting Goods, etc. is a gun dealer. Many pawn shops also hold FFLs. Many private citizens also hold curio and relic FFLs, does that make them a dealer?
 
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Engineer

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Many private citizens also hold curio and relic FFLs, does that make them a dealer?

I don't know what that means and if I did, I wouldn't know, hence the reason that I asked the question about WalMart, etc. above?

I assumed you were asking me a question since you included a "?" but if not, sorry.
 

BladeVenom

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I would think they are overwhelmingly domestic production. Even foreign brands like Glock, SIG, and Beretta are produced domestically (though, of course, these are foreign companies). I think I've heard $30 billion economic impact (wages), $5 billion per annum in tax revenue state and federal.

Beretta and Sig make a lot of guns in the US. Glock on the other hand, doesn't make very many in the US. Especially considering how many they make total.

Made in the USA 2010:
Sig 296,080
Beretta 138,588
Taurus 128,160
Glock 31,395
 

TallBill

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I would think they are overwhelmingly domestic production. Even foreign brands like Glock, SIG, and Beretta are produced domestically (though, of course, these are foreign companies). I think I've heard $30 billion economic impact (wages), $5 billion per annum in tax revenue state and federal.

As for number of gun dealers, yes, most Wal-Mart, Dick's Sporting Goods, etc. is a gun dealer. Many pawn shops also hold FFLs. Many private citizens also hold curio and relic FFLs, does that make them a dealer?

C&R isn't a dealer