why i like microsoft

[BlueEyedBeezlebub]

my computer kept rebooting every few hours automatically.. finally i sent my error report (xp pro) and it came back and said that the problem had been investigated and that the newest nvidia drivers would fix the problem. well it worked! 30days of stability, go microsoft!

i was blaming everyone, my creative audigy, via, my ram.. never microsoft as i've learned in the past that dos, windows 95 and 98 were 100% stable with a proper hardware configuration and setup. yet most prefer to flame microsoft, i've never seen another OS take mainstream dominance.

 

[Mucman]

How did they get back to you?

 

[BlueEyedBeezlebub]

after it completed sending the error report i clicked close and then popped up a webpage describing the problem and what it took to fix it.

 

[Nothinman]

never microsoft as i've learned in the past that dos, windows 95 and 98 were 100% stable with a proper hardware configuration and setup

Right. Try and get past 42 days uptime on a DOS or Win95 box, no matter what the configuration is.

Try and boot Win95 with >512M of memory without any hand tweaking of OS parameters.

MS software isn't as bad as some people say, but it's about as far from 100% stable as you can get and still be usable.

 

[Smilin]

#apt get some_non_bitterness_for_nothinman

 

[Mucman]

Originally posted by: Smilin
#apt get some_non_bitterness_for_nothinman

OMG ROFL! That made my day

 

[Nothinman]

#apt get some_non_bitterness_for_nothinman

heh

I've been in a better mood lately since I've stopped booting Windows at home =) Actually it's probably more related to the fact that I've done some small programming tasks and actually finished them, it's pretty gratifying.

 

[Workin']

I've been in a better mood lately since I've stopped booting Windows at home =)

So you could say you "booted" Windows

 

[alm4rr]

DRUMROLL PLEASE *ba-dum-ching*

 

[Boris691]

i did not like Microsoft for a long time. i know how to configure a computer and no matter what i did i had to fromat and reinstall win 98 every 6 months and even then i had to face at least a couple of blue screens of death a week. however since i got winxp pro i have not had any troubles. its messed up on me twice and both were due to outside software not working properly. and its been almost a year now. with win xp microsoft has won me back. and i to now like microsoft. o ya, and they also make good mouses and keyboards and such.

 

[Nothinman]

o ya, and they also make good mouses and keyboards and such.

You realize they're produced by someone else and MS just puts their name on them, right?

 

[CTho9305]

I dont know, I like XP. One of my friends who hates MS runs a bunch of linux servers. For some reason, they are MUCH less stable than the windows boxes around here.... anyway, Big uptimes are nothing special when the box does nothing (where nothing is defined as being a server rather than a desktop box)

 

[oniq]

Originally posted by: CTho9305
I dont know, I like XP. One of my friends who hates MS runs a bunch of linux servers. For some reason, they are MUCH less stable than the windows boxes around here.... anyway, Big uptimes are nothing special when the box does nothing (where nothing is defined as being a server rather than a desktop box)

Sounds like he configured them wrong, and wanted to join the Linux crowd "to be cool". I run Gentoo Linux on my laptop and I use it constantly in X with Gnome 2 and Sawfish run GAIM, Pan, Galeon, Eterm, etc. I've got a 7 day uptime right now, and I don't see any reasons to go back to Windows. However, I also run Windows XP on my main desktop, because I sometimes need some applications (Photoshop) and games (Hitman2, UT2K3) that I don't have for (or don't exist for) Linux.

 

[Mucman]

Originally posted by: CTho9305
I dont know, I like XP. One of my friends who hates MS runs a bunch of linux servers. For some reason, they are MUCH less stable than the windows boxes around here.... anyway, Big uptimes are nothing special when the box does nothing (where nothing is defined as being a server rather than a desktop box)

server equals machine doing nothing? I beg to differ!!! My servers are loaded way more than any desktop I know of! We have 2 caching nameservers
that are at %90 CPU usage continually and they have been up for 300 days. I don't hate MS, but I run FreeBSD servers for a reason, not because of some
crazy trendy OS war that is going on...

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: oniq

Originally posted by: CTho9305
I dont know, I like XP. One of my friends who hates MS runs a bunch of linux servers. For some reason, they are MUCH less stable than the windows boxes around here.... anyway, Big uptimes are nothing special when the box does nothing (where nothing is defined as being a server rather than a desktop box)

Sounds like he configured them wrong, and wanted to join the Linux crowd "to be cool". I run Gentoo Linux on my laptop and I use it constantly in X with Gnome 2 and Sawfish run GAIM, Pan, Galeon, Eterm, etc. I've got a 7 day uptime right now, and I don't see any reasons to go back to Windows. However, I also run Windows XP on my main desktop, because I sometimes need some applications (Photoshop) and games (Hitman2, UT2K3) that I don't have for (or don't exist for) Linux.

I dunno. He runs gentoo also, and I guess likes to constantly "emerge up world" or whatever the command is. So he constantly compiles stuff (he doesn't upgrade the kernel, so he doesnt have to reboot). He runs linux just because he claims to hate MS and finally realized that Macs were in fact not as useful as PCs. (Mac convert. He actually does now dualboot XP on one of his boxes for when he wants to get stuff done )

Originally posted by: Mucman

Originally posted by: CTho9305
I dont know, I like XP. One of my friends who hates MS runs a bunch of linux servers. For some reason, they are MUCH less stable than the windows boxes around here.... anyway, Big uptimes are nothing special when the box does nothing (where nothing is defined as being a server rather than a desktop box)

server equals machine doing nothing? I beg to differ!!! My servers are loaded way more than any desktop I know of! We have 2 caching nameservers
that are at %90 CPU usage continually and they have been up for 300 days. I don't hate MS, but I run FreeBSD servers for a reason, not because of some
crazy trendy OS war that is going on...

Serving, while resource intensive, is nothing. You don't have applications being constantly opened and closed, stuff being installed, etc. The only change over time is the log file for web servers/ transaction log for DB servers. I can write a cpu-heater that also pounds the hard drive for my desktop, and (now that I pulled my stick of bad ram) if I could stop myself from messing with the hardware, I would expect it to run fine for a very long time. The best I've done in XP was like 2 weeks and then I had some urge to overclock more or something. My work machine (win2k) has like a month uptime.
^ All the stuff about servers above is guessed. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong

 

[Nothinman]

Serving, while resource intensive, is nothing. You don't have applications being constantly opened and closed, stuff being installed, etc

Neither are those operations. The only thing intense about installing/removing software on Windows is the fact that none of them clean up after themselves.

And file serving is just as, if not more, intensive than running apps constantly. The OS has to open files, start applications (most file servers like samba, ftp, afpd, etc spawn a new process for each connection), adjust memory (adjust the differences between OS cache and application memory), etc. The only thing applications do more of is interacting with the input devices, which isn't intense at all, and the video driver which again isn't really anything intensive.

My work machine (win2k) has like a month uptime.

My work machine (Debian Linux) had about 8 months uptime before a power flicker rebooted it, it should be up to about 4 months again now IIRC.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

My work machine (win2k) has like a month uptime.

My work machine (Debian Linux) had about 8 months uptime before a power flicker rebooted it, it should be up to about 4 months again now IIRC.

yea yea, a month ago they cut the power on one of the weekends.

 

[Mucman]

Nothingman pretty much summed it up... the kernel is doing a hell of a lot to handle all the IO and memory management involved in servers. A game or a session of photoshop is just a process that
runs, and when it's done it cleans up (hopefully) after itself... A server has to run for months and has to keep everything clean...

Anyways... this is getting way off-topic