Why I Don't Take Body Building Supplements: Reason #1
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How do they treat that, anyway? Poke holes in it?
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Besides, I really don't see the appeal in looking like that. Yuck.
Viper GTS
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Besides, I really don't see the appeal in looking like that. Yuck.
Viper GTS
Thats so lame. Sure it was caused by the pills, but how many other people can you think of that made the news with a painful erection caused by Andro? None. This is one of those cases where people have an unwanted side affect or allergic reaction to a certain supplement. Andro might be banned in the NFL but I have yet to see anyone have any bad side effects by it. Same with creatine - in a research study done using 100 participants, 1 person had kidney failure within 3 days of taking 5 gm a day. No one else had problems. Creatine is the hottest thing since cables in the excercise industry, although 90% of the gains made is really excess water.
RagingBitch:
You're wrong about andro. Creatine is a different story, but purity is still a big issue with creatine.
A simple Medline search will turn up more articles on andro, but here's one that should have you thinking twice about taking it.
What's that awful pain running through my shoulder and chest?
You're wrong about andro. Creatine is a different story, but purity is still a big issue with creatine.
A simple Medline search will turn up more articles on andro, but here's one that should have you thinking twice about taking it.
What's that awful pain running through my shoulder and chest?
Chess9:
I appreciate your concern about some of these items. However, your topic title "Why I don't take supplements...." could be narrower. There is a raging battle going on now to control the use of vitamins, which are also considered "supplements."
Lumping vitamins B and C into the same catgory as andro doesn't serve that debate, but only serves to confuse and inflame. If the AMA and the FDA have their way, you would have to have a prescription to buy your one-a-days or anything that doesn't now come out of the pharmaceutical giants.
I appreciate your concern about some of these items. However, your topic title "Why I don't take supplements...." could be narrower. There is a raging battle going on now to control the use of vitamins, which are also considered "supplements."
Lumping vitamins B and C into the same catgory as andro doesn't serve that debate, but only serves to confuse and inflame. If the AMA and the FDA have their way, you would have to have a prescription to buy your one-a-days or anything that doesn't now come out of the pharmaceutical giants.
Niege:
I agree with your minor quibble, but after reading the thread I hope you understand I wasn't talking about all supplements. This was intended to be a sort of extended comment on the thread about CJ Hunter.
Since the DSHEA of 1994 the FDA has started to tighten the screws a bit on supplements. Their view on manufacturers being able to claim the efficacy of a drug are very strict. Perhaps too strict. Folic acid and neural tube defects come to mind. On the other hand, many weight loss products make outrageous claims, and the FDA is rightly shutting down many of those manufacturers. They shut down two that I know of here in Florida last year.
I think the FDA's major focus regarding vitamins is the claims being made for some vitamins by manufacturers. However, if the abuses in the industry continue, we will probably see Congress step in and give the FDA more authority and you can expect the number of manufacturers to dwindle as you imply.
This is a difficult area and balance is required. Each supplement needs to be considered on a case by case basis of course.
To clear the air, I do take a multi-vitamin almost every day.
I agree with your minor quibble, but after reading the thread I hope you understand I wasn't talking about all supplements. This was intended to be a sort of extended comment on the thread about CJ Hunter.
Since the DSHEA of 1994 the FDA has started to tighten the screws a bit on supplements. Their view on manufacturers being able to claim the efficacy of a drug are very strict. Perhaps too strict. Folic acid and neural tube defects come to mind. On the other hand, many weight loss products make outrageous claims, and the FDA is rightly shutting down many of those manufacturers. They shut down two that I know of here in Florida last year.
I think the FDA's major focus regarding vitamins is the claims being made for some vitamins by manufacturers. However, if the abuses in the industry continue, we will probably see Congress step in and give the FDA more authority and you can expect the number of manufacturers to dwindle as you imply.
This is a difficult area and balance is required. Each supplement needs to be considered on a case by case basis of course.
To clear the air, I do take a multi-vitamin almost every day.
Minor quibble indeed! Well, yes, minor quibble. I also agree that overhyping about health effects could be dangerous and needs to be closely watched. Case by case is needed, but politicians generally only want a 30 second sound bite to boost their poll ratings. But I digress......
Synthetic vitamins aren't good for you... You better damn well bet that your body can tell the diffrence..
I think the FDA needs to get their act together regarding vitamins.. Why do they let "Vitamin C" be sold as ascorbic acid, when natural vitamin C is a combination of 9 diffrent substances, one of which, is ascorbic acid? ...
I think the FDA needs to get their act together regarding vitamins.. Why do they let "Vitamin C" be sold as ascorbic acid, when natural vitamin C is a combination of 9 diffrent substances, one of which, is ascorbic acid? ...
Eli:
The industry opposes such regulation of Vitamin C and they give lots of money to Congressmen to make sure their views carry weight. But, Vitamin C levels are a very controversial subject. From Linus Pauling to the A.D.A. you will find the gamut of opinion. We certainly don't have a shortage of Vitamin C in our diets. Perhaps some people would be better off if they were taking more Vitamin C, but that evidence is very "iffy" at this stage. Here in Florida we probably all get ample Vitamin C! (I must drink a gallon of orange juice a week, though my favorite is tangerine juice which is not always available.) Anyway, the FDA has bigger fish to fry than the vitamin manufacturers.
The industry opposes such regulation of Vitamin C and they give lots of money to Congressmen to make sure their views carry weight. But, Vitamin C levels are a very controversial subject. From Linus Pauling to the A.D.A. you will find the gamut of opinion. We certainly don't have a shortage of Vitamin C in our diets. Perhaps some people would be better off if they were taking more Vitamin C, but that evidence is very "iffy" at this stage. Here in Florida we probably all get ample Vitamin C! (I must drink a gallon of orange juice a week, though my favorite is tangerine juice which is not always available.) Anyway, the FDA has bigger fish to fry than the vitamin manufacturers.
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creatine puts a lot of water into your cells. that can't be good for them. and those "herbal" supplements? those make you feel good because they have minor euphorics in them! might as well smoke some of that other "herb" cuz its the same damn thing. if marajuana is illegal so should these others be.
chess9 - I never stated I took it nor am taking it. I don't even take Creatine because its all water based muscle gain. Stop taking it for that 3 week down period and you'll have lost it all. And you're probably right about andro, its just that considering no one in the body building community heeds attn to these "scientific" studies, people are going to keep taking it. The only thing I take are protein shakes.
Err you don't loose it all when u stop creatine you might loose mabe 3-4 pounds. The strengh gains make up for it
Err you don't loose it all when u stop creatine you might loose mabe 3-4 pounds. The strengh gains make up for it
Most people in the united states are deficient in all vitamins ........
The only real source of vitamins is raw plant matter. Fruits, vegies, nuts. Not McDonalds.
Cereal claims to have a lot of vitamins, but it's still not the same. You can't take everything out of food(process it), then try and put it back in. It just doesen't work like that. heh.
The only real source of vitamins is raw plant matter. Fruits, vegies, nuts. Not McDonalds.
Cereal claims to have a lot of vitamins, but it's still not the same. You can't take everything out of food(process it), then try and put it back in. It just doesen't work like that. heh.
Eli:
That's good advice. Fresh fruits and vegetable. Yummy! Good food is the best way to get good nutrition.
That's good advice. Fresh fruits and vegetable. Yummy! Good food is the best way to get good nutrition.
Why a women would want to take a body building product is beyond me.
Women are s'pose to be a bit on the soft side, with nice curves. IMAO, just as the only men who find skinny girls attractive are subconsciously pedophilic, the only men who find muscly girls attractive are subconciously gay.
Women are s'pose to be a bit on the soft side, with nice curves. IMAO, just as the only men who find skinny girls attractive are subconsciously pedophilic, the only men who find muscly girls attractive are subconciously gay
.Dab:
Those are old husband's tales. If you can find one reputable scientist to back up that nonsense, please feel free to post a cite to the paper. Men who are afraid they can't dominate an athletic woman are the only men who fear athletic women, IMHO. I've been around athletic women all my life. They are no different than regular women, except they are fit. In Australia, with all the fit women, I'd think you'd know better than to spout such drivel.
You need another 6 pack, mate.
Edit: I do agree about the body building supplements though. If you are talking about the froggy looking women body builders, well, I'd agree as well that they are ugly, but many of them have body builder husbands, so I don't think your gay conclusions are valid.
Those are old husband's tales. If you can find one reputable scientist to back up that nonsense, please feel free to post a cite to the paper. Men who are afraid they can't dominate an athletic woman are the only men who fear athletic women, IMHO. I've been around athletic women all my life. They are no different than regular women, except they are fit. In Australia, with all the fit women, I'd think you'd know better than to spout such drivel.
You need another 6 pack, mate.
Edit: I do agree about the body building supplements though. If you are talking about the froggy looking women body builders, well, I'd agree as well that they are ugly, but many of them have body builder husbands, so I don't think your gay conclusions are valid.
Well DABANCH could be right, Chess. I'm an explorer of the subconscious and can find no evidence of those two, and I don't really care for skinny or muscular either.
I have to admitt I was going for a reaction (what me troll?)
I don't mind them athletic, but I still prefer buxom curves in all the right places.
I don't mind them athletic, but I still prefer buxom curves in all the right places.
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