Why I don't like Windows 10

[Scooby Doo]

I'm pretty sure the tracking stuff will be included with the full release too, then again they could make money off those that upgraded for free *evil laugh* LOL

 

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[JEDIYoda]

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 95......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 95

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 98......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 98

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 2000......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 2000

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows Vista......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows Vista

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 7......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 7

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 8......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 8

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 8.1......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 8.1....

and so on...thx berryracer!!

 

[Ramses]

There were people griping and moaning about DOS too, but it was slower then sense it was mostly letters written in to a magazine. Then we all got windows so now we can complain really efficiently.

 

[DigDog]

Ah, the notorious R0ach. One should take everything he says with a grain of salt.

i understand that .. his skill level .. fluctuates wildly.

however, as a gamer, he has proven himself. so even if he gets right the stuff that he does by feel, at least he is reliable on that. in other words, if he shows up and says "overclock your WMO to 500hz with this patch and run it at 400dpi", then you do that and you can be assured that you will do well.

now, i'm sure i could point out a few things i don't like about W7. but i am cohabiting with it quite well; it very rarely pisses me off, and it generally complies with my demands.
i can also game on it reasonably well and this is a big deal.

random services firing up for a few milliseconds here and there and hogging my cpu cycles is really a no-no for twitch-aim games. what is unnoticeable to most users can be horrible for people who refuse to have .. pre-rendered frames on their GPU .. whose monitor has so little brightness and gamma it looks like a piece of rock (its better for detecting movement) .. who have to "enhance pointer precision" in order to NOT "enhance pointer precision".

not to mention the various network configurations, some of which work, some of which break everything.
it's not easy getting a responsive system, but it's a joy when you do. and i do dream of microsoft one day releasing a gamer OS .. let me rephrase that .. a paranoid hardcore gamer OS, i know it's not gonna happen.

but, if they only did release a modular os - one that i can BUILD as i need, instead of one that i need to DEMOLISH as i need.

 

[ninaholic37]

There were people griping and moaning about DOS too, but it was slower then sense it was mostly letters written in to a magazine. Then we all got windows so now we can complain really efficiently.

Sometimes we get lucky and things we complain about die. Like Windows RT. Persistence is key

 

[Ramses]

but, if they only did release a modular os - one that i can BUILD as i need, instead of one that i need to DEMOLISH as i need.

Isn't that supposed to be Linux? :biggrin:

 

[Ramses]

Sometimes we get lucky and things we complain about die. Like Windows RT. Persistence is key

Voting with one's dollars and/or usage is the key I'm pretty sure.
If the sales and the uptake is as abysmal as 8 was they'll start
trying to figure out why I imagine. Other than freakouts about the wifi
thing I've heard mostly positive things in the media though. Crazy geek
joints like this not withstanding.

 

[escrow4]

holy wow this thread moves fast.

i'm not sure you see my point here;
i have a W7 system that works perfectly. when i follow a thread by r0ach from quake forums to overclock.net to microsoft forums that essentially says "blah blah blah BAD MOUSE blah" i have a good reason not to venture into windows 10.

when i read that only some editions of W10 will be able to fully turn off some features; that i will lose my unlocker, my markC mouse fix, that it has even more services that cannot be turned off (i use BlackViper's guide and have almost everything off), all for what ?

i'm sorry if i seem blind to your fps boosts and such but i come from a time when systems crahsed to BSOD five times a day. so when a system doesnt crash, i know i want it.

but what is it that my W7 doesn't do right?

i know i'm not being adventurous but my mouse needs to work perfect or else i freak out. i tried W8 when the 8.1 patch came out and i had it for less than 1 hour, horrible mouse lag. you can google that, i wasn't the only one to have this issue.

i don't want a repeat of that. i'm fine with my w7 and will not upgrade if i read all these warning signals.

maybe in a couple years, when my system truly becomes "old".

ROFL blackviper. Its like 2005 all over again. Zero impact. Speaking of which yes I have a dumb phone and yes it cost me $10. It still comes with a browser (entirely optional but still) and you'd have to be completely stoned to try and use it. No GPS, no wireless. Is 3G as 2G is being switched off here end of next year. Tracking via cell towers is one thing, but the NSA has a pile of options if you have a smartphone - how do you really truly know that that app isn't watching and listening to you via the microphone and front camera? Really truly?

Windows on the other hand who cares. Only have porn and rubbish on this box anyway. They already have your bank details and email anyway. But a phone, a phone you can control.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Be careful bro, if you keep using highly offensive personal attacks like that Mem's gonna have to alert the authorities! You don't want to get in trouble now, do you?

I'm a ninja...ninjas don't get in trouble.

:ninja:

 

[Mem]

Be careful bro, if you keep using highly offensive personal attacks like that Mem's gonna have to alert the authorities! You don't want to get in trouble now, do you?

Only one getting in trouble is you,can't you even post and stay on topic?...Try to at least behave like an AT member here.


End of the day Mods will decide what happens not you or I,however forum guidelines are for us all(some of us need reminding more then others).

As to Win10 well I can see some concerns by members here ,but as the other members have posted nobody is really forced to use it,you have older versions of Windows you can stay on or good old Linux which I use a lot as well.

Win10 a year from now should be interesting one way or another.

 

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[flexy]

Point is, with some service packs they COULD have easily implemented DX12 and improved memory management with Win7.

I am telling you straight out, I would then use Win7 rather than 8, 8.1 or 10.

All those FOR ME entirely unnecessary crap, mainly Metro, splitting up settings into PC settings and control panel settings (LOGIC???) they could have released as an additional Extra/Bonus pack for mobile users. (For those 5 users worldwide who do NOT use Android or iOs, that is).

 

[flexy]

10 will probably eventually go on my gaming machine due to dx12. But otherwise no way. My other work computers will continue on with Windows 7.

Isn't that what many of us do? Even if we don't really like it we install it "because of DX12". Because, TBH, I don't see ANY *obvious* benefit running this OS. (In fact I see many disadvantages).

Even the supposed better memory handling and less footprint alleged in Win8/Win8.1 over 7 I don't really see/feel...with 8GB or 16GB memory not an issue anyway.

ONE would foolishly assume every new OS should be snappier, faster, nicer etc...but NOTHING about this I see. In fact, it gets slower and the rest is bloat I don't like or need. Worse, along with unnecessary crap they actually took many things away.

Give me DX12 for 7 and I switch all my PCs to 7 right now and would be more than happy with it.

 

[Mem]

Point is, with some service packs they COULD have easily implemented DX12 and improved memory management with Win7.

I am telling you straight out, I would then use Win7 rather than 8, 8.1 or 10.

All those FOR ME entirely unnecessary crap, mainly Metro, splitting up settings into PC settings and control panel settings (LOGIC???) they could have released as an additional Extra/Bonus pack for mobile users. (For those 5 users worldwide who do NOT use Android or iOs, that is).

I'm sure some people were saying same thing for XP,Vista etc,end of the day no OS lasts forever and reality is Win7 has EOL,sooner some people realize that the better.

Personally if I did not game I would be on Linux 100% all the time,in many ways it is better then 7,8,10 etc ,however I don't mind using Win10.

Operating Systems have always changed and evolved,something as a PC user we should be use to by now,good and bad go hand in hand.

 

[WelshBloke]

They really need to make a lot of the things that compromise your privacy opt in not opt out.

You shouldnt expect users of Windows (a lot who haven't a clue how the OS works) to dig around in the settings to disable stuff.

They also need to not whinge about getting slapped by the Eu if they do it this way.

 

[rchunter]

Give me DX12 for 7 and I switch all my PCs to 7 right now and would be more than happy with it.

Agreed. That's all I really want is dx12 on windows 7. If microsoft wont, maybe somebody will come out with an unofficial way to make it work on 7.
We will just have to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if that eventually happens though.

 

[Sabrewings]

Agreed. That's all I really want is dx12 on windows 7. If microsoft wont, maybe somebody will come out with an unofficial way to make it work on 7.
We will just have to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if that eventually happens though.

There might be something similar to the aftermarket ways to add DX10 to XP, but they're buggy and never really worked right. This isn't Microsoft's first rodeo at this. Every major OS step tends to have some exclusive feature that they could've retrofitted but keep it on the current version only to drive adoption.

 

[SparkyJJO]

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 95......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 95

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 98......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 98

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 2000......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 2000

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows Vista......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows Vista

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 7......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 7

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 8......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 8

oK...So lets go back in time to Windows 8.1......the caption reads -- Why I don't like Windows 8.1....

and so on...thx berryracer!!

LOL

Agreed. That's all I really want is dx12 on windows 7. If microsoft wont, maybe somebody will come out with an unofficial way to make it work on 7.
We will just have to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if that eventually happens though.

Just like someone would make DX10 on XP right

 

[Sabrewings]

LOL



Just like someone would make DX9 on XP right

DX9 was on XP. You mean DX10+.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34429

 

[SparkyJJO]

Derp, yeah sorry /facepalm

 

[rchunter]

There might be something similar to the aftermarket ways to add DX10 to XP, but they're buggy and never really worked right. This isn't Microsoft's first rodeo at this. Every major OS step tends to have some exclusive feature that they could've retrofitted but keep it on the current version only to drive adoption.

One can hope. But I agree with you.

 

[Mem]

One can hope. But I agree with you.

Simple solution would be DX12 on Linux then I would be in heaven .

 

[Red Hawk]

Just my thoughts in response:

1. Yeah automatic updates and driver updates that are very convoluted to turn off at best are frustrating, no argument there.

2. I actually like the way settings are handled in 10 better than 8.1. At least in 10 you can open Settings in a traditional window rather than a Modern screen. It should be all unified under Control Panel, but it's somewhat improved over 8.1.

3. Privacy settings seem easily accessible, and it does ask you about this when first starting the OS, so this isn't such a big deal to me.

4. Again, easy to disable if you don't want it, so not a big deal to me.

5. I'm actually of the opinion that the Start menu is sort of obsolete at this point. I never installed a third party Start menu in 8/8.1, and I got on just fine. I can easily access what I want through desktop and task bar shortcuts, and find anything else through File Explorer. The Search function is improved in 10, which just makes the Start menu even more obsolete. So no love lost from me over the start menu, whether it's gone altogether or just subpar.

6. I hadn't even noticed the default app for viewing pictures had changed. So...not something I care about.

7. This doesn't seem like an issue with the operating system, Nvidia just hasn't enabled CUDA support in their drivers yet. I'm sure they'll do it in a coming driver update. If you rely on CUDA, you should really have checked to see if Nvidia had enabled CUDA before upgrading.

8. I'm not sure I trust that benchmark list. Computerbase.de did a benchmark roundup and, at least in games, Windows 10 is faster.

 

[Eug]

Personally, I couldn't give a chit that Win X is 3% faster than Win Y in game 123. First of all I don't play games, but even when I did, I learned that a few % difference is negligible. I also learned that speeds often increase when drivers mature, over time.

More important to me here is that Win 10 feels less bloated with OS navigation, and frees up drive space too.