Why hasn't Nigeria asked for assistance in securing its oil infrastructure?

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And don't say it has, it certainly hasn't asked enough. I can only assume that the US and others would be more than happy to aid in policing it right now. A couple of days ago or so some militants in a boat went out 60 miles to attack an actual oil tanker (edit: oil platform). They are constantly attacking refineries, too. Considering how much money is at stake, it would be a drop in the bucket to send some real hardware in the area, perhaps some gunships or frigates in the area where it's relevant. Hundreds or miles of pipes are harder to patrol, but we're talking about actual compounds getting attacked.
 

SP33Demon

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Did someone say oil? I heard Nigeria needs liberation, and they're procuring WMD's.

Seriously though: However, due to crumbling infrastructure, corruption, and ongoing civil strife in the Niger Delta, its main oil producing region, oil production and export is not at 100% capacity.

They have a military that could protect the refineries if they wanted, but I'm sure it's very complicated.
 

piasabird

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Yes liberals cry about Nigeria now but as soon as Americans start to die they will be the first to blame the administration and call for a surrender and immediate withdrawl.

In the mean time our friends in Iraq have awarded oil contracts to their friends the Europeans. I guess this is to thank Americans who died for their freedom.

Why does America even bother to help people like this?
 

beyoku

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Nigeria does have a lot of oil bit the really really need to take care of their humanitarian issues they have in the Delta. Though i dont condone kidnapping and murder the folks down there do have some legitimate gripes. OTOH you have other splinter groups that are springing up all over the place just to kidnap and get money, using the delta region issue as a screen. Too bad, so sad.....That country has much money from oil but wastes SO much...
 
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
And don't say it has, it certainly hasn't asked enough. I can only assume that the US and others would be more than happy to aid in policing it right now. A couple of days ago or so some militants in a boat went out 60 miles to attack an actual oil tanker (edit: oil platform). They are constantly attacking refineries, too. Considering how much money is at stake, it would be a drop in the bucket to send some real hardware in the area, perhaps some gunships or frigates in the area where it's relevant. Hundreds or miles of pipes are harder to patrol, but we're talking about actual compounds getting attacked.

The warring factions are the same ethnicity. Hard to tell who is good and who is bad. And who decides who is good and who is bad?

Same with Sierra Leone, Liberia, etc.

I don't think US soldiers gunning down children in the streets would go over well with the American people. Because that's what it would take to restore some sense of order.

Pic

Kids with human bones and guns
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Granted some of the pictures are hilarious

But just a very bad situation. A lot of the mercenary companies got their starts in that area of the world in the 80s. Executive Outcomes took in a few dozen men and killed something just under 1000 "rebels" in Sierra Leone that had seized oil facilities. Bad ju ju.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: Skoorb
And don't say it has, it certainly hasn't asked enough. I can only assume that the US and others would be more than happy to aid in policing it right now. A couple of days ago or so some militants in a boat went out 60 miles to attack an actual oil tanker (edit: oil platform). They are constantly attacking refineries, too. Considering how much money is at stake, it would be a drop in the bucket to send some real hardware in the area, perhaps some gunships or frigates in the area where it's relevant. Hundreds or miles of pipes are harder to patrol, but we're talking about actual compounds getting attacked.

The warring factions are the same ethnicity. Hard to tell who is good and who is bad. And who decides who is good and who is bad?

Same with Sierra Leone, Liberia, etc.

I don't think US soldiers gunning down children in the streets would go over well with the American people. Because that's what it would take to restore some sense of order.

Pic

Kids with human bones and guns
Pic

Granted some of the pictures are hilarious

But just a very bad situation. A lot of the mercenary companies got their starts in that area of the world in the 80s. Executive Outcomes took in a few dozen men and killed something just under 1000 "rebels" in Sierra Leone that had seized oil facilities. Bad ju ju.


Sierre Leone is a prime example of the failures of the UN. The merc group consisted of about 300 mercs that trained and fought along side the Sierre Leone army. They took that army and turned it into a capable group. The cost was about 100 million. They managed to push the rebels far back into a single town. Then the UN came in with a budget nearly 1.6 billion and tossed the mercs out. The result was the country fell back into shit while the peacekeeps stood aorund with a thumb up their ass.

btw the leader of the sierre leone rebel group was certifiable nutz. Often lead his troops into combat wearing a dress with high heels lmao. So that pic of the guy with a life vest is nothing out of the ordinary. These people are off their rocker big time.
 

Aimster

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The oil company who is ranking 40B+ because of their oil should send in an army to protect their billions.
 

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They have all those millions of dollars being granted by those different government departments according to emails (thanks yahoo for your filters :()

They should be albe to hire some quality consulatants to secure the distribution network from the oil business $$ or the "grant" dollars.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Aimster
The oil company who is ranking 40B+ because of their oil should send in an army to protect their billions.

Well they already do sort of, they pay plenty of people off to disrupt protests, provide monetary support to the oppressive police, etc.

Big Oil is an enabler of tyranny.

1. Oil corporations in the Niger Delta seriously threaten the livelihood of neighboring local communities. Due to the many forms of oil-generated environmental pollution evident throughout the region, farming and fishing have become impossible or extremely difficult in oil-affected areas, and even drinking water has become scarce. Malnourishment and disease appear common.
2. The presence of multinational oil companies has had additional adverse effects on the local economy and society, including loss of property, price inflation, prostitution, and irresponsible fathering by expatriate oil workers.
3. Organized protest and activism by affected communities regularly meet with military repression, sometimes ending in the loss of life. In some cases military forces have been summoned and assisted by oil companies.
4. Reporting on the situation is extremely difficult, due to the existence of physical and legal constraints to free passage and free circulation of information. Similar constraints discourage grassroots activism.



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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: Skoorb
And don't say it has, it certainly hasn't asked enough. I can only assume that the US and others would be more than happy to aid in policing it right now. A couple of days ago or so some militants in a boat went out 60 miles to attack an actual oil tanker (edit: oil platform). They are constantly attacking refineries, too. Considering how much money is at stake, it would be a drop in the bucket to send some real hardware in the area, perhaps some gunships or frigates in the area where it's relevant. Hundreds or miles of pipes are harder to patrol, but we're talking about actual compounds getting attacked.

The warring factions are the same ethnicity. Hard to tell who is good and who is bad. And who decides who is good and who is bad?

Same with Sierra Leone, Liberia, etc.

I don't think US soldiers gunning down children in the streets would go over well with the American people. Because that's what it would take to restore some sense of order.

Pic

Kids with human bones and guns
Pic

Granted some of the pictures are hilarious

But just a very bad situation. A lot of the mercenary companies got their starts in that area of the world in the 80s. Executive Outcomes took in a few dozen men and killed something just under 1000 "rebels" in Sierra Leone that had seized oil facilities. Bad ju ju.


Sierre Leone is a prime example of the failures of the UN. The merc group consisted of about 300 mercs that trained and fought along side the Sierre Leone army. They took that army and turned it into a capable group. The cost was about 100 million. They managed to push the rebels far back into a single town. Then the UN came in with a budget nearly 1.6 billion and tossed the mercs out. The result was the country fell back into shit while the peacekeeps stood aorund with a thumb up their ass.

btw the leader of the sierre leone rebel group was certifiable nutz. Often lead his troops into combat wearing a dress with high heels lmao. So that pic of the guy with a life vest is nothing out of the ordinary. These people are off their rocker big time.
And placated by drugs and booze. The rebel groups in Africa are definitely beyond initial comprehension by sane individuals.

I'm sure some of these gripes are legit. My guess is people hate seeing their country's wealth sent to oil companies with little of it getting back to them.