Im not seeing a 8C Zen2 cpu below 200 this year to be honest. AMD needs to replace the 3400G at $150 with something good, this means a 6C with Vega 8 at very high clocks, that may or may not have SMT. If it does have SMT, they may launch a 8/8 at $200 and a 8/16 at 250. And the 4200G may be 4/8 or 6/6 at $100, this would be the absolutely best case escenario.Why? The low-end Matisse 6c chip launched at $199 and is dropping in price already. There's plenty of room for a downclocked 6c APU that isn't as fast as a 3600 in the traditional APU price points. 8c maybe so, but by the time Vermeer is out, there will be plenty of room in AMD's lineup for a $150-ish 8c Renoir on the desktop.