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dbk

Lifer
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Only thing I dislike about Firefox is the slow loading time...that's about it. It's still the best browser out there.
 

JetBlack69

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Originally posted by: UnixFreak
The code is compliant. You don't have to like that fact, but it's still a fact.

Just because the code is complient doesn't mean that it will do what you think it should do. Again, I'll admit that I don't know how to program CSS, so take my comment with a huge grain of salt.
 

Originally posted by: UnixFreak
Because that's how tables are treated. The code is compliant. You don't have to like that fact, but it's still a fact.
It's complaint, sure. How your browser treats the complaint code is another story. text-align in the body centers the body's text, not the tables, images, etc. It says nowhere in the W3C specs that code should work as IE interprets it. If you can prove otherwise, please do.
 

UnixFreak

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It's complaint, sure. How your browser treats the complaint code is another story.


maybe you should read the article. After all, thats what the article is about.



Some people, you have to throw the stick, then help them fetch it.
 

Originally posted by: UnixFreak
It's complaint, sure. How your browser treats the complaint code is another story.

maybe you should read the article. After all, thats what the article is about.

So, basically, you got your ass handed to you by a bunch of FF users on Fark, because you can't understand the difference between compliance and interpretation. You got all pissed off and decided to troll here with your incorrect argument.

Sorry, I am not being a FF zealot here. I am someone who understands CSS and sees that you don't and your argument is bollocks.

 

AdamDuritz99

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Originally posted by: DaWhim
first pwn thread I see in 2005. :)

Yep.
I love firefox, but I get annoyed by the zealots too. Either way though, this is complete ownage. The whole table centering page that is actually rendered correctly in FF and not in IE, even though UnixFreak thinks otherwise.

Oh, and IMO anybody with computer sense probably never expect FF to make their bandwidth faster, just actually rendering and the FF program itself is faster. I personally think FF initally takes longer to start up than IE b/c it's not loaded into the memory when the pc starts up but explorer is.


peace
sean
 

jlee

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With dialup, Firefox loads pages ridiculously faster than IE..it doesn't wait until most of the page has loaded before it shows anything, so I can actually start reading something without waiting for the entire page to load. Maybe my IE is messed up..*shrug*
 

OulOat

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: UnixFreak
It's complaint, sure. How your browser treats the complaint code is another story.

maybe you should read the article. After all, thats what the article is about.

So, basically, you got your ass handed to you by a bunch of FF users on Fark, because you can't understand the difference between compliance and interpretation. You got all pissed off and decided to troll here with your incorrect argument.

Sorry, I am not being a FF zealot here. I am someone who understands CSS and sees that you don't and your argument is bollocks.

PWNED!
 

bigj3347

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I just started using firefox the other day. I've been using maxthon for awhile. I like Firefox, it works well with all the sites i frequent, and I love the extensions I can add to it.
 

ArmchairAthlete

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I think people are exaggerating the spyware problem in IE. If you do certain things that you should be doing regardless of your browser, you should be fine. Let windows autoupdate, run a firewall, run an antivirus, don't accept downloads for stupid crap you don't know about. A browser isn't the only way spyware gets onto a PC, plenty of people use crappier filesharing programs like Kazaa and open the spyware floodgates that way.

There are just plenty of people who don't take care of their PCs. Simply choosing an alternative browser and forgetting about it probably won't look so great if the browser becomes highly popular and spyware writers target it in increasing numbers.

I've got FF installed, used it a bit. I do remember some stuff not looking right (or working right depending on the page).

That said, I don't hate FF and I think competition is good.
 

UnixFreak

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So, basically, you got your ass handed to you by a bunch of FF users on Fark, because you can't understand the difference between compliance and interpretation. You got all pissed off and decided to troll here with your incorrect argument.

Sorry, I am not being a FF zealot here. I am someone who understands CSS and sees that you don't and your argument is bollocks


Nobody handed me my ass anywhere. There is no argument on fark. Secondly, I will break it down for you in the simplest manner possible.



you can't understand the difference between compliance and interpretation

The article is about compliance. FF users say firefox is better because it adheres to W3 Standards so well

and I proved this, with two demo pages, and links to the W3C validator, and provided that as evidence.

You argue it with "I dont do it that way" and get your feathers all in a ruffle and provide "because I said so evidence".

I understand CSS just fine. My employer pays me very well to understand it. The W3C validator agrees with my understanding of it. Just because some peon in a forum doesn't agree, doesn't mean I'll be changing anything anytime soon.

 

TwiceOver

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I was reading your statment and trying to be objective till I read about how you get emails from people about how your frontpage looks bad in FF. So I checked it out. You should really warn people asshat. Just ban this fvckstick and call it a day.
 

Originally posted by: UnixFreak
The article is about compliance. FF users say firefox is better because it adheres to W3 Standards so well and I proved this, with two demo pages, and links to the W3C validator, and provided that as evidence.
You only proved you can't read a spec worth a damn. See Safari example for more self-ownage.

 

MikeMike

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
I was reading your statment and trying to be objective till I read about how you get emails from people about how your frontpage looks bad in FF. So I checked it out. You should really warn people asshat. Just ban this fvckstick and call it a day.

jesus christ.

fuckin ass.

btw, its NOT work safe.

also, everyone, absolutely EVERYONE is correct except for you unix, it is a difference of interpretation and compliance.

i can write a completely compliant code that may do some random thing in IE, but not in FF. and it will be completely compliant.

MIKE
 

meltdown75

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hey, how about everyone just have a :beer: :p

wait, my $0.02 - i use firefox. now i am going to imagine the spongmonkeys singing a song about firefox.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: UnixFreak
Because that's how tables are treated. The code is compliant. You don't have to like that fact, but it's still a fact.

No sh!t, Shirlock. The code is valid. Run it through the validator. "yup, it's valid" Just what does this mean in the context of the argument that Firefox *IS* displaying it correctly.
IE displays it wrong, not Firefox.
Nowhere do you have a table centered, just the text.
Can't you understand that this is what everyone's arguing?

And, the validator says "no" to the 2nd page because you (as you admitted above also) didn't do it properly!


 

Originally posted by: UnixFreak
Since we're posting urls...

That's nice. Nowhere in that link does it claim text-align in the body centers tables. The align you linked to is an attribute on html elements, not text-align.

Just let it go. We argue FF vs IE here all the time and it never gets bitter. It was your trollish tone and lame, misinformed webpage that turned everyone against you.

PS: Opera does not render your page "correctly" either. Seeing a trend?

Let it go.