Why exactly are we, taxpayers, footing the bill to rebuild NO?

[Medicine Bear]

We didn't pay for rebuilding San Fran after any quakes. Didn't pay to rebuild Chicago after the great fire. Didn't pay to rebuild any other city after any other natural disaster. So why are we paying for NO?

Seriously. I feel sorry for the people who lost everything, but that is what insurance is for. Didn't have insurance? Well then you shouldn't be living below sea level in a place prone to flooding/hurricanes.

 

[FoBoT]

because politicians are corrupt and stupid. they just want votes
so the "compassionate" thing to do is spend $200 billion federal govt money that doesn't exist

 

[DaShen]

Very true. It is all politics because people won't take personal responsibility for anything anymore. But by the way.... I am guessing this is going to have to go to P&N! :|

 

[Alkesh]

Because the role of the state is to do things greedy clowns like you would never do on your own

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Alkesh
Because the role of the state is to do things greedy clowns like you would never do on your own

No it's not.

 

[akubi]

Originally posted by: Medicine Bear
Seriously. I feel sorry for the people who lost everything, but that is what insurance is for. Didn't have insurance? Well then you shouldn't be living below sea level in a place prone to flooding/hurricanes.

i agree with you.

who're we kidding? let's just be honest here. we don't give a flying fvck.

 

[Medicine Bear]

Originally posted by: Alkesh
Because the role of the state is to do things greedy clowns like you would never do on your own

Just for your info I have given more $$ than I can really afford to the hurricane victims and I have volunteered my time to help them. What have you done?

And no, the state is not responsible for bailing private citizens out of a mess they made for themselves.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: DaShen
Very true. It is all politics because people won't take personal responsibility for anything anymore. But by the way.... I am guessing this is going to have to go to P&N! :|

If it gets moved to P&N, within 10 posts it will become a "It's all Bush's fault" circlejerk. No thanks.

 

[ElFenix]

for that matter, why are we building a bridge to nowhere in alaska?

 

[Mo0o]

So what should the people who lost everything do? Obviously they SHOULD have had insurance, but since they dont...

 

[Medicine Bear]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: DaShen
Very true. It is all politics because people won't take personal responsibility for anything anymore. But by the way.... I am guessing this is going to have to go to P&N! :|

If it gets moved to P&N, within 10 posts it will become a "It's all Bush's fault" circlejerk. No thanks.

Sad but true. That is why I posted it here. The few times I have gone to P&N I came back feeling dirty. Nothing but partisan hacks from both sides in there.

 

[Medicine Bear]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
So what should the people who lost everything do? Obviously they SHOULD have had insurance, but since they dont...

That is what private charities are for.

 

[Medicine Bear]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
for that matter, why are we building a bridge to nowhere in alaska?

Moose gotta have something to walk on.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
for that matter, why are we building a bridge to nowhere in alaska?

"The American republic will survive until the people figure out that they can vote themselves the Treasury"

Yeah, butchered the quote (or maybe jumbled two together), but that's the answer: pork.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: DaShen
Very true. It is all politics because people won't take personal responsibility for anything anymore. But by the way.... I am guessing this is going to have to go to P&N! :|

If it gets moved to P&N, within 10 posts it will become a "It's all Bush's fault" circlejerk. No thanks.

True... <sigh> P&Ners need to die! Or at least PermaBanned

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
for that matter, why are we building a bridge to nowhere in alaska?

I can think of a couple of reasons, but this is OT and not P&N.

 

[Scarpozzi]

It's bad enough that my GF has to watch those stupid commercials on tv every night. She breaks down and starts crying because it's so sad seeing the destruction.

I keep trying to remind her that people chose to be there. They knew 3 days in advance that something was headed their way. They could have easily gotten out of the flood zone. They just didn't.

To be totally mean about it, disasters happen everywhere and death is just part of life. When people get over it and move on, we'll all be better off.....especially when people stop consuming gasoline so quickly so the prices will fall at least to $2.00 again.

 

[Alkesh]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Alkesh
Because the role of the state is to do things greedy clowns like you would never do on your own

No it's not.

If a tornado knocked your house down, you'd be clamouring for government to "do it's job" and fix it.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
So what should the people who lost everything do? Obviously they SHOULD have had insurance, but since they dont...

They've gotten enough to move to a new city and get a fresh start. Sometimes life deals you a crappy hand. You've got to pull yourself up--THAT'S the American spirit, not asking for handouts.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
for that matter, why are we building a bridge to nowhere in alaska?

that is patronage, the chairman of the transportation committee is from AK and just stole the money for that project

that transportation bill is a classic example of pork barrel

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Alkesh

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Alkesh
Because the role of the state is to do things greedy clowns like you would never do on your own

No it's not.

If a tornado knocked your house down, you'd be clamouring for government to "do it's job" and fix it.

i have tornado insurance

i added earthquake insurance also

i skipped the flood insurance as i am not near anything that could flood, except for the sky

 

[Epiphany]

what are you talking about? there is always federal help when a state of emergency occurs....

Hurricane Andrew, So Cal Forest Fires of 03, etc.

 

[Medicine Bear]

Originally posted by: Epiphany
what are you talking about? there is always federal help when a state of emergency occurs....

Hurricane Andrew, So Cal Forest Fires of 03, etc.

Assistance yes, but the total rebuilding of a city and giving tax credits, cheap federall funded housing, etc, etc, etc...to the people who live there? No.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Alkesh

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Alkesh
Because the role of the state is to do things greedy clowns like you would never do on your own

No it's not.

If a tornado knocked your house down, you'd be clamouring for government to "do it's job" and fix it.

No, he'd place a call to his insurance agent, to whom he's beeing paying a premium, have a check a few days later, and build a new house..........with a spa this time.

OMGWOWCANYOUBELIEVEIT!!!!!!!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: ElFenix
for that matter, why are we building a bridge to nowhere in alaska?

"The American republic will survive until the people figure out that they can vote themselves the Treasury"

Yeah, butchered the quote (or maybe jumbled two together), but that's the answer: pork.

Is this the one you're thinking of?

"A perfect democracy, a 'warm body' democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally has no internal feedback for self correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens...which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it...which for the majority translates as 'Bread and Circuses'

"Bread and Circuses is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader--the barbarians enter Rome."

Heinlein from "To Sail Beyond the Sunset"