Why don't universities want out-of-state students?

johnjohn320

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They make it cost more and harder to get into if you don't live in the state where the university is located.

Why?
 

TheDukeOfURL

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Think of it this way. If X school has a bitching CS program, then you'd have people from every surrounding state trying to get in and making it harder to accomodate the in state residents.
 

glen

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The purpose of the "State University" is to educate the citizens of that state.
 

KingNothing

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Because people who live in the state and go to college in the state are more likely to work in the state when they graduate, thus paying the state taxes and such. In the technology sector especially, businesses want graduates to stay in town so they don't have to get foreigners to do jobs which is more expensive for the company.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: TheDukeOfURL
Think of it this way. If X school has a bitching CS program, then you'd have people from every surrounding state trying to get in and making it harder to accomodate the in state residents.

That doesn't really answer my question. Why would they be more eager to accomdate students who's home address is in state than out of state?
 

glen

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That doesn't really answer my question. Why would they be more eager to accomdate students who's home address is in state than out of state?
Did you read my post?
 

CripplerCrossface

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Originally posted by: glen
The purpose of the "State University" is to educate the citizens of that state.

str8 up.

plus the oos students get charged so much so the in state students dont have to pay so much.
 

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State universities are funded by state tax dollars. Students (families of students) from out of state haven't contributed taxes to fund the university, so they shouldn't reap the benefits, and thus their tuition is higher.

Ryan
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: rgwalt
State universities are funded by state tax dollars. Students (families of students) from out of state haven't contributed taxes to fund the university, so they shouldn't reap the benefits, and thus their tuition is higher.

Ryan

Oh, ok, that I get. ;) Still, why would they make it harder? Saying "it was intended to educate people from that state" is no better than saying "this school was meant to educate white people."
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: rgwalt
State universities are funded by state tax dollars. Students (families of students) from out of state haven't contributed taxes to fund the university, so they shouldn't reap the benefits, and thus their tuition is higher.

Ryan

Oh, ok, that I get. ;) Still, why would they make it harder? Saying "it was intended to educate people from that state" is no better than saying "this school was meant to educate white people."
Are you dense? What would race have to do with anything? It's simply a matter of if you are a resident of a state, you pay state income tax. Money from this tax is used to fund the public universities in that state. Therefore, those who help pay for the existence of the school get lower tuition and more are accepted to attend.

 

glen

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Saying "it was intended to educate people from that state" is no better than saying "this school was meant to educate white people."

It is?
How so?
 

slycat

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i think they like out of state students...even international ones...
so they can get mucho $$
 

glen

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Dollars, taxes, etc....
All miss the point.
Due to the "Rights" not taken from the State in the Constitution of the United States, the State can create Universities.
They create the University to educate the people of the State.
This is explicit in the documents drawn up in the creation of the University.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: rgwalt
State universities are funded by state tax dollars. Students (families of students) from out of state haven't contributed taxes to fund the university, so they shouldn't reap the benefits, and thus their tuition is higher.

Ryan

Yup. Pretty simple IMO.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: rgwalt
State universities are funded by state tax dollars. Students (families of students) from out of state haven't contributed taxes to fund the university, so they shouldn't reap the benefits, and thus their tuition is higher.

Ryan

Oh, ok, that I get. ;) Still, why would they make it harder? Saying "it was intended to educate people from that state" is no better than saying "this school was meant to educate white people."

Obviously you have a sense of entitlement.
 

lowtech1

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Canadian Universities are very accommodated to the out of country student, and sometime they would let student with slightly lower GP average enrol.

Even at non-resident price (at about $8000-20000CAD or $5000-12500USD per year depending on the program) it is much cheaper than the average US University. Most under grad program is between $5000-6250USD per year. Check UofT, McGill, Waterloo, UBC, and many other great Canadian universities for prices if you are unhappy with your state colleges.

Ps. Stay away from BC universities because the climate & women are terrible here ;)
 

gopunk

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only state schools do... i don't think private schools will make that distinction. what part of "state-funded" do you not understand?
 

glen

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You guys are missing an important point.
When you get a speeding ticket, you get it because you are driving faster than the Speed Limit.
The officer does not ticket you for driving dangerously.
If that were the case, you could say, "Well, no one was on the road. It was not dangerous. I am a NASCAR driver."
Now, the reason for the speed limit may be to keep the street safe, it may be cause the people who lived on the street bribed some public officials, or it may be there for no reason anyone can find.

State Universities have in their charter specific language about who they take.
What ever the "reasoning" for that language has to do with the state legislators.
But, the University follows their charter.
 

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Originally posted by: Garfang
Originally posted by: rgwalt
State universities are funded by state tax dollars. Students (families of students) from out of state haven't contributed taxes to fund the university, so they shouldn't reap the benefits, and thus their tuition is higher.

Ryan

Yup. Pretty simple IMO.

exactly. Students at state universities are heavily subsidized by the state's taxpayers. VERY heavily. Universities get massive funding from the state. How else could there be the enormous disparity between private and public school tuition costs, when clearly the education at a private school is NOT an order of magnitude better than that at a public university?
 

LH

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Texas A&M has alot of out of state students as its one of the cheapest state universities for out of state students. It supposedly has the high alaskan population(or did 4-5 years ago) out of any university. Or atleast thats what Ive been told by 5 or 6 A&M grads.
 

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Originally posted by: werk
Are you dense? What would race have to do with anything? It's simply a matter of if you are a resident of a state, you pay state income tax. Money from this tax is used to fund the public universities in that state. Therefore, those who help pay for the existence of the school get lower tuition and more are accepted to attend.

yep. well, here in texas, its not income tax, its sales tax, but same basic thought.
 

Vette73

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Actually colleges do want out of state students in the UNC (North Carolina) system. BUT the state has a limit of out of state students to in state ones. I know UNCW (Wilmington) wants to be able to accept more out of state students as UNCW gets less per student than UNC and most other UNC schools.

So NC and probable most states have a % limit of out of state students
 

spanner

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I think they are required by state law to accomodate a certain percentage of in-state students so the out of state have to compete for what is left. In other words they don't do it on purpose.