Why don't top tier schools have an undergrad business degree program?

[WombRaider]

Schools like Harvard, Stanford, UCLA, etc. all don't have an undergrad degree program. However, they have a business graduate program. What gives?

 

[Saint Michael]

Erm... because business is really a graduate course of study?

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: WombRaider
Schools like Harvard, Stanford, UCLA, etc. all don't have an undergrad degree program. However, they have a business graduate program. What gives?

UCLA doesn't belong on that list.

 

[Brainonska511]

Because they usually fall under a different school than the "college". My school has a graduate business school only; if you want undergraduate business type stuff, you major in economics. And usually a business degree is good to have to supplement another degree.

 

[WombRaider]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: WombRaider
Schools like Harvard, Stanford, UCLA, etc. all don't have an undergrad degree program. However, they have a business graduate program. What gives?

UCLA doesn't belong on that list.

Fine, replace UCLA with Princeton.

 

[blinky8225]

Yeah, I go to a school like that. The emphasis is on a well-rounded liberal arts education as a foundation for further learning. Further learning could include graduate study in business.

 

[Epic Fail]

BS in Business = BS

 

[miketheidiot]

because a business degree isn't a real degree

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: yamadakun
BS in Business = BS

:thumbsup:

 

[BrownTown]

Yeah, I kinda gotta ask, what business are you in if all you have is a business degree and no real degree? I mean "business" doesn't mean anything in itself so far as I am concerned, we all work for businesses, you need a real knowledge of some certain business before you can even think you should be leading it. All the vice presidents and CEO type people of the company I worked for had engineering degrees because it was an engineering company. If you just wanna be some manager for whatever company wants you then it seems like economics is the place to start, no way you can be an effective manager without understanding how economics work.

EDIT: FWIW both my parents have MBAs, my dad also has a masters in engineering. Now really he uses his MBA more than his engineering degrees, but there is no way he would be any good at doing budgets and handling contracts if he didn't even understand what the things were actually used for.

 

[ric1287]

depends on your def of business......mine included econ, finance, accy, mktg.

But on this forum, the only 'real' degrees are probably considered engineerding or CS

 

[maziwanka]

because a "business" degree is the most worthless education you could get. once you get a real education, then you can look into an mba

edit: i wanted to add, undergrad is about figuring out something that you're interested in and could be passionate about. like others have said, you can't really define what a "business" degree is supposed to mean. it's the same reason there isn't a law major at undergrad either. anyone from any background can do either.

 

[jagec]

Considering they hand out MBAs like candy, who cares if they don't offer a Bachelor's?

 

[BrownTown]

Harvard hands out business degrees like crazy? where can I get one?

 

[destrekor]

Ohio State has an entire college, the Fisher College of Business, dedicated to undergrad and graduate business studies. It's kind of a mini-school, with a small campus of its own, in the middle of the main campus. It takes a little work to be accepted into the college, and the BS would be in Business Administration.

how difficult it really is, I have no clue, but I know it's pretty well recognized and has a combined rank of 12th against other business schools in the nation.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
Harvard hands out business degrees like crazy? where can I get one?

Ask any politician or other wealthy family.

By "they" I meant the university system in general.

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: destrekor
Ohio State has an entire college, the Fisher College of Business

I'm pretty sure MOST business schools are their own colleges, I go to Vanderbilt and the business school is "Olin College", thats the whole point of a university, having many different colleges, I'd imagine a gigantic school like Ohio State probably has 20 different colleges.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Schools offer a generic bachelors in business? I thought you had to have a focus, like accounting, finance, economics, etc.?

 

[Wreckem]

Before people knock undgrad biz programs,

remember that

Finance
Marketing
Accounting
Advertising

all follow under business.

Now yes a BBA in Business Admin is worthless, a BBA/BA/BS in the rest are not.

 

[WombRaider]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Schools offer a generic bachelors in business? I thought you had to have a focus, like accounting, finance, economics, etc.?

You do. I'm just referring to accounting, finance, marketing, etc, under the scope of a business degree.

 

[Ika]

A kid straight out of Wharton can begin earning 6 figures straight out of college, no MBA required. So much for undergrad business being useless.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Aflac
A kid straight out of Wharton can begin earning 6 figures straight out of college, no MBA required. So much for undergrad business being useless.

Thats all because of name and name alone.

That said, people with undergrade degrees in finance and accounting can do quite well for themselves no matter where their degree is from.

To a lesser extent so can advertising and marketing.

 

[blinky8225]

Originally posted by: Aflac
A kid straight out of Wharton can begin earning 6 figures straight out of college, no MBA required. So much for undergrad business being useless.

Even at Wharton, it's called a BS in Economics, though. So, while an education at Wharton does focus on practical experience, there's still a lot of emphasis on a more academic approach with Economic theory.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: blinky8225

Originally posted by: Aflac
A kid straight out of Wharton can begin earning 6 figures straight out of college, no MBA required. So much for undergrad business being useless.

Even at Wharton, it's called a BS in Economics, though. So, while an education at Wharton does focus on practical experience, there's still a lot of emphasis on a more academic approach with Economic theory.

It may be called a BS in Economics, but it only requires Intro to Macro and Intro to Micro.

 

[halik]

huh?