Why don't they make the widescreen LCDs 16:9 ratio?

[Special K]

I recently bought a Dell 2005fpw and while I think it is a great monitor, I am wondering why don't they make widescreen monitors 16:9 aspect ratio, so I can watch a movie on them without the black bars? Weren't movies the only things that really used a widescreen format before widescreen TVs and LCD monitors were around? Wouldn't it make sense to make the widescreen TVs and LCDs the same aspect ratio as the most common thing that uses them (movies)?

 

[Venomous]

Mine has no problem displaying 16:9 properly.

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: Special K
I recently bought a Dell 2005fpw and while I think it is a great monitor, I am wondering why don't they make widescreen monitors 16:9 aspect ratio, so I can watch a movie on them without the black bars? Weren't movies the only things that really used a widescreen format before widescreen TVs and LCD monitors were around? Wouldn't it make sense to make the widescreen TVs and LCDs the same aspect ratio as the most common thing that uses them (movies)?

There are virtually no movies that are 16:9, most are 1.85:1, or 2.35:1. A few are 1.6:1, older movies are usually 1.37:1. So there's no one perfect ratio.

 

[sharkeeper]

A 4800x2000 32" TFT would rock for NLE scope format xfer editing. If you're in the biz you don't care about dropping $15k+ for one. Bring it on!

 

[Special K]

OK I guess I didn't explain this correctly. My 2005fpw will display 16:9 just fine, what I mean is why couldn't they have made the monitor a size so that it displays movies using the entire screen, instead of having to stretch it or use black bars across the top and bottom of the screen?

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: Accord99

Originally posted by: Special K
I recently bought a Dell 2005fpw and while I think it is a great monitor, I am wondering why don't they make widescreen monitors 16:9 aspect ratio, so I can watch a movie on them without the black bars? Weren't movies the only things that really used a widescreen format before widescreen TVs and LCD monitors were around? Wouldn't it make sense to make the widescreen TVs and LCDs the same aspect ratio as the most common thing that uses them (movies)?

There are virtually no movies that are 16:9, most are 1.85:1, or 2.35:1. A few are 1.6:1, older movies are usually 1.37:1. So there's no one perfect ratio.

Ah, I didn't realize that. I thought they were all pretty much the same. Even still, I have not found a movie that I could watch on here without stretching or using the black bars. I would think they could at least make the monitor conform to one of those commonly used aspect ratios.

 

[niranjan162]

im pretty sure that the 1.85:1 movies can be displayed 16:9 without black bars. I think its stupid making movies in ratios that would cause the black bars

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: niranjan162
im pretty sure that the 1.85:1 movies can be displayed 16:9 without black bars. I think its stupid making movies in ratios that would cause the black bars

Exactly what aspect ratio is the 2005fpw anyway? Is there a way to watch movies without stretching or black bars on this? Is there some setting I am missing?

 

[sharkeeper]

WS LCD's are 16:10.

 

[keeleysam]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: niranjan162
im pretty sure that the 1.85:1 movies can be displayed 16:9 without black bars. I think its stupid making movies in ratios that would cause the black bars

Exactly what aspect ratio is the 2005fpw anyway? Is there a way to watch movies without stretching or black bars on this? Is there some setting I am missing?

2005FPW = 1680x1050 = 16:10

 

[Crescent13]

I understand what you're trying to say, as to why manufacturers don't make 16:9 ratio LCD's is beyond me. I am somewhat surprised that they are all 16:10, but in a 24+", you usually get more viewing area. Example, 16:9 1080 I/P = 1920x1080, dell 24" monitor = 1920x1200.

EDIT: and most movies are in 16:9 ratio, that's why you have black bars on your 16:10 lcd.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: Crescent13
I understand what you're trying to say, as to why manufacturers don't make 16:9 ratio LCD's is beyond me. I am somewhat surprised that they are all 16:10, but in a 24+", you usually get more viewing area. Example, 16:9 1080 I/P = 1920x1080, dell 24" monitor = 1920x1200.

EDIT: and most movies are in 16:9 ratio, that's why you have black bars on your 16:10 lcd.

Most are in 16:9? Accord99 just said most were not in 16:9...

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Crescent13
I understand what you're trying to say, as to why manufacturers don't make 16:9 ratio LCD's is beyond me. I am somewhat surprised that they are all 16:10, but in a 24+", you usually get more viewing area. Example, 16:9 1080 I/P = 1920x1080, dell 24" monitor = 1920x1200.

EDIT: and most movies are in 16:9 ratio, that's why you have black bars on your 16:10 lcd.

Most are in 16:9? Accord99 just said most were not in 16:9...

Most are not in my experience.

I like that my favorite movie (Aliens) is though :thumbsup:

 

[phisrow]

I read somewhere, once, that going 16:10 rather than 16:9 was to allow for the control bar and similar widgetry that computers tend to have for watching/editing video. So 16:9 for the video and a touch extra for toolbars. Whoever wrote that might have been full of nonsense, and I hardly vouch for the truth of this; but it's the only explanation I've heard.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: phisrow
I read somewhere, once, that going 16:10 rather than 16:9 was to allow for the control bar and similar widgetry that computers tend to have for watching/editing video. So 16:9 for the video and a touch extra for toolbars. Whoever wrote that might have been full of nonsense, and I hardly vouch for the truth of this; but it's the only explanation I've heard.

Makes sense actually, true or not.

 

[valkator]

Originally posted by: phisrow
I read somewhere, once, that going 16:10 rather than 16:9 was to allow for the control bar and similar widgetry that computers tend to have for watching/editing video. So 16:9 for the video and a touch extra for toolbars. Whoever wrote that might have been full of nonsense, and I hardly vouch for the truth of this; but it's the only explanation I've heard.

I dont know about that but i have the 2405fpw and if it was 16:9 i dont think i would like it that much because then the screen wouldnt be as tall and since i sit like 1.5 feet in front of it i would rather have some height to it. I think 16:10 is great for a PC.

Especially since i scroll through stuff most of the time too

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: valkator

Originally posted by: phisrow
I read somewhere, once, that going 16:10 rather than 16:9 was to allow for the control bar and similar widgetry that computers tend to have for watching/editing video. So 16:9 for the video and a touch extra for toolbars. Whoever wrote that might have been full of nonsense, and I hardly vouch for the truth of this; but it's the only explanation I've heard.

I dont know about that but i have the 2405fpw and if it was 16:9 i dont think i would like it that much because then the screen wouldnt be as tall and since i sit like 1.5 feet in front of it i would rather have some height to it. I think 16:10 is great for a PC.

Especially since i scroll through stuff most of the time too

But wouldn't that only be like an inch or so difference in height?

 

[Special K]

Aren't all HDTVs 16:10 as well? I can see the point that phisrow made but I just don't like the fact that a significant amount of the monitor's available space is wasted when I watch a movie.

 

[BurnItDwn]

My HDTV LCD is 15x9. (1280x768 native) .... talk about wierd ...

 

[CZroe]

16:9 enhances other wide aspects also by adding increased horizontal resolution even if the bars are still present. Plus, there is a whole new kind of pan & scan to convert extra-wide Cinemascope movies to 16x9 (See almost anything in the PSP UMD movie library).

Very much Japanese animation, theatrical and televised, is now in 16x9. Just watched Steamboy again last night. Adult Swim has a lot of wide-screen 16x9 anime (Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex, Samurai Champloo, etc but I've never watched those). I actually hate most anime (Miyazaki included).

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Crescent13
I understand what you're trying to say, as to why manufacturers don't make 16:9 ratio LCD's is beyond me. I am somewhat surprised that they are all 16:10, but in a 24+", you usually get more viewing area. Example, 16:9 1080 I/P = 1920x1080, dell 24" monitor = 1920x1200.

EDIT: and most movies are in 16:9 ratio, that's why you have black bars on your 16:10 lcd.

Most are in 16:9? Accord99 just said most were not in 16:9...

Most are not in my experience.

I like that my favorite movie (Aliens) is though :thumbsup:

James Cameron has always filmed in a pseudo-wide format (not quite 16x9, not quite 4:3) so that each edit is only missing a little bit.

Originally posted by: phisrow
I read somewhere, once, that going 16:10 rather than 16:9 was to allow for the control bar and similar widgetry that computers tend to have for watching/editing video. So 16:9 for the video and a touch extra for toolbars. Whoever wrote that might have been full of nonsense, and I hardly vouch for the truth of this; but it's the only explanation I've heard.

Must be because Macs use Quicktime almost exclusively with no full-screen option.