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Why don't that just call MTV "RTV"???

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Originally posted by: Allio
For those of us that don't get MTV, do they play ANY other kind of music nowadays? Anything electronic other than the very, very mainstream?

Haha! Mainstream media carrying and promoting electronic music in a big way? It'll likely never happen... Electronic music relies on musical talent and has little use for a front vocalist (or "vocalist" in the sense that Britney pretends to sing while she dances around onstage); there are no vacuous Britneys or Clays or Justin Timberlakes for the recording industry to shove down the throats of the preteen/teen crowd.
 
Originally posted by: BlipBlop
MTV has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over


Dude, mainstream media as a whole has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over. Glorifying the ghetto has been the downfall of America. Drug use goes up, violence goes up, irresponsible sex goes up, nihilism goes up. And all the while, people keep saying, that it's the parent's fault not, what is shoved down everyone's throat 24/7. What is a parent to do, lock their kid away in a bubble? This rap/ghetto crap is goddamned everywhere.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't much of the same sentiment expressed back in the '50s when Elvis showed up on Ed Sullivan? That this newfangled "rock & roll" thing was the moral downfall of America?
 
Originally posted by: tm37
I remember when MTV actually only haqd one show.

Can you name the show?

Remote Control?

I remember joining the army, and when I got out of basic, they all of a sudden had a freakin' game show in MTV.

It's been downhill since then.
 
I liked MTV in the mid/late 80's. Back then the tag line should've been "MTV - We know you're stoned"
(Randy of the Redwoods shorts, Dennis Leary shorts, Wubba Wubba Wubba)
 
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: midwestfisherman
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I've hated MTV for years now.... it's worthless

You got that right!!
MTV has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over. Damn shame too as MTV was awesome in it's early days when they actually played real music.

Man, what's with ignorant crap posts like this. Just because you don't happen to like rap doesn't make it devoid of musical value. I for one dig all kinds of music, and rap is included in there, along with country and rock and jazz and classical and punk and electronica of all kinds. Sheesh.

Good music is good music I say!
I mean I don't know what you heard about me, but a bitch can't get a dollar outa me =p
 
Originally posted by: BlipBlop
MTV has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over


Dude, mainstream media as a whole has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over. Glorifying the ghetto has been the downfall of America. Drug use goes up, violence goes up, irresponsible sex goes up, nihilism goes up. And all the while, people keep saying, that it's the parent's fault not, what is shoved down everyone's throat 24/7. What is a parent to do, lock their kid away in a bubble? This rap/ghetto crap is goddamned everywhere.

Although I had a roommate who seemed to suffer from some kind of weird psychological disorder where he felt Tupac Shakur's raps actually applied to his white Connecticut ass, rap as a whole is not about glorifying the ghetto. Yes, some rappers do that sort of thug crap, but it's not everybody, and that's not what rap's about.
And anyway, why all the hating? =p

Also, I think many people fail to realize that for some people who have very little, rap gives them something you might not realize, it gives em hope, and sometimes it even gives them the drive to make something of themselves so they can have the nice stuff the rappers have.

I mean, if you're white you have the mega-billionaires CEOs to look up to as your successful examples, but to be honest, if you're black and from the ghetto, who are you gonna look up to as someone who made it starting where you are? Rappers give people something to strive for, and although I don't really think that's what people should be striving for, nonetheless it gives them something, anything. And there's also the hip-hop culture spawned CEOs like the CEOs of hip hop clothing labels(FUBU, Phat Pharm, etc.). And those people they can aspire to be.

So quit the dissing on rap. If you want to blame rap for everything, why aren't you blaming the idiotic metal bands that scream just as stupid stuff as some of the worst gangsta rap?
Because I'm SOOO sure that listening to Slipknot's "Wait and Bleed" is very educational for our children too.

It's just easy to pick on rap because "those" people happen to have a different skin color. Typical. What about the non-gangsta rap groups that try to make positive statements and set good role models for the ghetto? They exist you know. And even on occasion gangsta rappers give some good role modeling songs too.

For example, take Nas' "I Know I Can" which is set to Fur Elise! It's more inspirational than ANY fricking rock song I've heard over the last 10 years. But no, you won't point that out and go wow, how awesome. Sure you just blame all the BAD things on "those" black people.

Sheesh.

And no, I'm not black, but it disgusts me to hear all these people down about rap as if it's some primitive form of music that an inferior race made or something. If anything, rap is the modern equivalent of Poetry. There used to be a time when people read poetry for entertainment(haha yeah those days), but that's obviously not really all that popular these days. But I think rap is probably a pretty logical modern version of poetry. It expresses the same things poetry has expressed, although most times not as eloquently, but sometimes JUST as eloquently.

And finally, as one reporter/movie critic said, watching 8 Mile finally let him "get it" although he had hated rap all his life. So if you haven't seen it, go see it, particularly since it's a damned good movie.
 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: BlipBlop
MTV has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over


Dude, mainstream media as a whole has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over. Glorifying the ghetto has been the downfall of America. Drug use goes up, violence goes up, irresponsible sex goes up, nihilism goes up. And all the while, people keep saying, that it's the parent's fault not, what is shoved down everyone's throat 24/7. What is a parent to do, lock their kid away in a bubble? This rap/ghetto crap is goddamned everywhere.

Although I had a roommate who seemed to suffer from some kind of weird psychological disorder where he felt Tupac Shakur's raps actually applied to his white Connecticut ass, rap as a whole is not about glorifying the ghetto. Yes, some rappers do that sort of thug crap, but it's not everybody, and that's not what rap's about.
And anyway, why all the hating? =p

Also, I think many people fail to realize that for some people who have very little, rap gives them something you might not realize, it gives em hope, and sometimes it even gives them the drive to make something of themselves so they can have the nice stuff the rappers have.

I mean, if you're white you have the mega-billionaires CEOs to look up to as your successful examples, but to be honest, if you're black and from the ghetto, who are you gonna look up to as someone who made it starting where you are? Rappers give people something to strive for, and although I don't really think that's what people should be striving for, nonetheless it gives them something, anything. And there's also the hip-hop culture spawned CEOs like the CEOs of hip hop clothing labels(FUBU, Phat Pharm, etc.). And those people they can aspire to be.

So quit the dissing on rap. If you want to blame rap for everything, why aren't you blaming the idiotic metal bands that scream just as stupid stuff as some of the worst gangsta rap?
Because I'm SOOO sure that listening to Slipknot's "Wait and Bleed" is very educational for our children too.

It's just easy to pick on rap because "those" people happen to have a different skin color. Typical. What about the non-gangsta rap groups that try to make positive statements and set good role models for the ghetto? They exist you know. And even on occasion gangsta rappers give some good role modeling songs too.

For example, take Nas' "I Know I Can" which is set to Fur Elise! It's more inspirational than ANY fricking rock song I've heard over the last 10 years. But no, you won't point that out and go wow, how awesome. Sure you just blame all the BAD things on "those" black people.

Sheesh.

And no, I'm not black, but it disgusts me to hear all these people down about rap as if it's some primitive form of music that an inferior race made or something. If anything, rap is the modern equivalent of Poetry. There used to be a time when people read poetry for entertainment(haha yeah those days), but that's obviously not really all that popular these days. But I think rap is probably a pretty logical modern version of poetry. It expresses the same things poetry has expressed, although most times not as eloquently, but sometimes JUST as eloquently.

And finally, as one reporter/movie critic said, watching 8 Mile finally let him "get it" although he had hated rap all his life. So if you haven't seen it, go see it, particularly since it's a damned good movie.
I like a handful of Rap songs including the Oscar winning song from Eminem but for the most part it all sounds like rehashed Ebonics.
 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: midwestfisherman
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I've hated MTV for years now.... it's worthless

You got that right!!
MTV has sucked since Rap and the ghetto thugs took it over. Damn shame too as MTV was awesome in it's early days when they actually played real music.

Man, what's with ignorant crap posts like this. Just because you don't happen to like rap doesn't make it devoid of musical value. I for one dig all kinds of music, and rap is included in there, along with country and rock and jazz and classical and punk and electronica of all kinds. Sheesh.

Good music is good music I say!
I mean I don't know what you heard about me, but a bitch can't get a dollar outa me =p

Indeed, saying "Uh, uh, yeah, uh!" 50 times a minute, calling all women bitches, bad rhyming and twisting your lip in a moronic way to show you are tough is indeed a clear sign of good music.
 
MTV sucks and has sucked since the late 80's. When it was originally introduced and for the first 3 - 4 years it was great, exactly what "Music" TV should be. Ever since they decided to replace the original VJs and change the original format it has been downhill ever since. I haven't watched it in years and every time I surf through channels and happen to pass through MTV, I have yet to see any music videos being played. The "MTV" trademark or copyrights that they own should be taken away from them because they sure don't know what to do with it any more and its a farce.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tm37
I remember when MTV actually only haqd one show.

Can you name the show?

Remote Control?

I remember joining the army, and when I got out of basic, they all of a sudden had a freakin' game show in MTV.

It's been downhill since then.

Remote control was indead the first and the best "SHOW" that has ever been made by MTV
 
Wow, I just realized that I havn't watched anything on MTV for about 5 years now. Lately they only show Rap/Hip-Hop video's, Fakeality Shows (I mean c'mon who get's to "live in a loft with 8 different strangers" for FREE), and as much T&A as they can get away with (this is the main reason they show only rap/hip-hop videos).
 
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