I just got this board delivered and was surprised to see a power connecter. The manual doesn't really say why it is there. Why is it needed?
Why does the V5 5500 have a power connector?
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Well it needs the power.the agp slot cant supply enough to run it.The 5500 is a monster. I have had it since it came out and have tried the mx amd the Radeon but like the 5500 the best.
the original GeForce 256 and DDr cards, and to a certain extent, the 3500, had issues with not geting enough power over the AGP slot.
The 5500 has a pair of fans. It needs power. Rather than compromise the stability of the card or potentially make it somewhat "incompatible" with various motherboards, they just made a direct power supply connector. AS it stands, they have been roundly criticized by the mindless, despite the fact that the 5500 has exactly ZERO issues with hardware compatibility.
The 5500 has a pair of fans. It needs power. Rather than compromise the stability of the card or potentially make it somewhat "incompatible" with various motherboards, they just made a direct power supply connector. AS it stands, they have been roundly criticized by the mindless, despite the fact that the 5500 has exactly ZERO issues with hardware compatibility.
BTW, the Voodoo5 gets REALLY REALLY hot (maybe it's just my PCI version?). I had it sitting right on top of my Live! card, and noticing how hot it is, i was worried enough to move my soundcard to a different slot.
Thanks for the responses. I've been working with it for a few days now and it's working great! Nice speed increase in UT and WW2 Fighters and the FSAA looks pretty good, too!
Many problems, BFG???
I don't see it being a problem at all, really. What's the problem?... That you have to plug in a connector to the card? How is that a problem?
I guess other periphials such as hard drives, cd-roms, etc have the same "problem".
I don't see it being a problem at all, really. What's the problem?... That you have to plug in a connector to the card? How is that a problem?
I guess other periphials such as hard drives, cd-roms, etc have the same "problem".
I have to second the question about why people knock the V5500 for the power connector. I was just in a store and overheard an "expert" giving advice on a video card, and he eliminated the V5500 from contention because "I wouldn't place any video card that needed an external power supply in my own PC." Just another instance where the ignorance of the statement is too stunning for a response.
BFG10K
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Wingznut PEZ:
What's the problem?...
Excessive power consumption, like I said before.
I guess other periphials such as hard drives, cd-roms, etc have the same "problem".
Don't compare Apples to Oranges here. Compare Apples to Apples, like how many other video cards require extra power sources. Comparing CD-ROM drives to the V5 is almost as brilliant as your other idea to compare Glide to Direct 3D in game benchmarks.
I'm not going to get drawn out into another fight with you about this. Sure I may have been biased against 3dfx in the past, but you are certainly biased for 3dfx. Claiming that requiring an extra power source on a video card is somehow no different to the rest of the competition is clearly flawed.
The fact of the matter is that multiprocessing does inccur penalties not associated with single processing. Claiming that there's no difference between the two is simply ridiculous.
What's the problem?...
Excessive power consumption, like I said before.
I guess other periphials such as hard drives, cd-roms, etc have the same "problem".
Don't compare Apples to Oranges here. Compare Apples to Apples, like how many other video cards require extra power sources. Comparing CD-ROM drives to the V5 is almost as brilliant as your other idea to compare Glide to Direct 3D in game benchmarks.
I'm not going to get drawn out into another fight with you about this. Sure I may have been biased against 3dfx in the past, but you are certainly biased for 3dfx. Claiming that requiring an extra power source on a video card is somehow no different to the rest of the competition is clearly flawed.
The fact of the matter is that multiprocessing does inccur penalties not associated with single processing. Claiming that there's no difference between the two is simply ridiculous.
Extra power consumption is not bad in itself. Same deal with heat, its not bad itself.
Its the effects its causes which are bad. If the card doesn't lock up or screw up the system somehow because of it, well then I don't see anything that's wrong with it.
Its the effects its causes which are bad. If the card doesn't lock up or screw up the system somehow because of it, well then I don't see anything that's wrong with it.
BW, I disagree, thats what AGP Pro and Pro100 are for.
Extra pwoer to the vid card, but through the slot like it should be IMO.
Extra pwoer to the vid card, but through the slot like it should be IMO.
Yea but that is for servers now. I think the way card tech is coming that more will have a power connector before the agp pro comes a standard. peaple with the standard agp spec will want to use the new graphics card also. I guess we will see though.Later.
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I think in time most all video cards will have a power connecter.
I doubt that very much. In addition to the AGP PRO slot, each new generation of video cards usually drops a die size and this combats the problems associated with greater chip densities. 3dfx in this case have not jumped down to a 0.18 micron process like their competitors (they still use 0.25), and this coupled to the fact that they have a dual-CPU card means they are forced to get power from elsewhere.
If 3dfx had moved to 0.18 micron size they might not have needed an external power source.
I think in time most all video cards will have a power connecter.
I doubt that very much. In addition to the AGP PRO slot, each new generation of video cards usually drops a die size and this combats the problems associated with greater chip densities. 3dfx in this case have not jumped down to a 0.18 micron process like their competitors (they still use 0.25), and this coupled to the fact that they have a dual-CPU card means they are forced to get power from elsewhere.
If 3dfx had moved to 0.18 micron size they might not have needed an external power source.
Yea mayby. Like i said we will see.It seems to me though as graphics cards are becoming way more powerfull than cpu's. You are probably right though.
Yeah, but what's "excessive" about it?
It's not like there are problems with it. It works great.
I really don't see the drawback.
It's not like there are problems with it. It works great.
I really don't see the drawback.
I see no drawback in the power connector also. It doesnt hurt a thang.All it does is help make it what it is.The most stable card out now.
guys, think about it
IT HAS 2 FANS!
of course it needs another power connector
it improves stability greatly, especially when overclocking.
so that's fine by me.
IT HAS 2 FANS!
of course it needs another power connector
it improves stability greatly, especially when overclocking.
so that's fine by me.
two fans, two processors
It's a sli.
Not having a power connector might have risked instabibility since power mostly isn't the same in all computers, and some are inconsistent.
Lets say you ran a little short of power, and one of your fans went off. That wouldn't be nice would it?
It's a sli.
Not having a power connector might have risked instabibility since power mostly isn't the same in all computers, and some are inconsistent.
Lets say you ran a little short of power, and one of your fans went off. That wouldn't be nice would it?
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yup...its a combination of all those things:
1) two fans
2) two GPUs
3) .25 um GPUs , not .18 GPUs
each causing the card to draw just over twice the power needed by other video cards.
and the less power running through the slot interface, the more video data can be transfered over the area of the interface that would have been used to supply power...so it actually benefits from having a power connector originating from somewhere other than the slot itself.
1) two fans
2) two GPUs
3) .25 um GPUs , not .18 GPUs
each causing the card to draw just over twice the power needed by other video cards.
and the less power running through the slot interface, the more video data can be transfered over the area of the interface that would have been used to supply power...so it actually benefits from having a power connector originating from somewhere other than the slot itself.
Here's a good one from RIVA Station:
The inofficial ASUS P3V4X mainboard site (P3V4X UK...) posted a fix that solves the bootup problems with GeForce cards on that board:
Here are pictures I prepared for you which explain how to do the mod to eliminate the cold boot issue of GeForce 2 GTS (and above) not initializing properly on a P3V4X motherboard. The mod provides necessary power when high current supply is required by the video card at power-on time and under heavy 3D load
...
I swear it is worth doing it. It is safe. I'm sure ASUS know that their design is poor and cheap in this particular area. That's why they changed it with the CUV4X, with a better switching regulator.
Anyone want to bet that the V5500 wouldn't have this problem? Now let's see, who was it with the poor, inefficient design?
The inofficial ASUS P3V4X mainboard site (P3V4X UK...) posted a fix that solves the bootup problems with GeForce cards on that board:
Here are pictures I prepared for you which explain how to do the mod to eliminate the cold boot issue of GeForce 2 GTS (and above) not initializing properly on a P3V4X motherboard. The mod provides necessary power when high current supply is required by the video card at power-on time and under heavy 3D load
...
I swear it is worth doing it. It is safe. I'm sure ASUS know that their design is poor and cheap in this particular area. That's why they changed it with the CUV4X, with a better switching regulator.
Anyone want to bet that the V5500 wouldn't have this problem? Now let's see, who was it with the poor, inefficient design?
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