Why does the Navy have diff military ranks?

JEDI

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and if the marines are under the navy, why do they have army ranks?
 

judasmachine

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I don't actually know, but I'm sure tradition is the answer you will get. I just don't know where the tradition started.
 

BoomerD

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Acause theyz differunt...While the Marines may be a department of the Navy, (the MEN'S department) they serve vastly different roles.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Acause theyz differunt...While the Marines may be a department of the Navy, (the MEN'S department) they serve vastly different roles.

It's the Navy's job to give the Marines a ride to the war.
 

marvdmartian

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They don't. It's everyone ELSE that has the different military ranks! :laugh:

I get a kick out of the Air Force. They used to be army, so borrowed most of their rank structure from them. But they wanted to be different, so they borrowed some from the navy, then switched them around.

Example? In the navy, the top 3 enlisted ranks go as such:

CHIEF petty officer (E7)
SENIOR chief petty officer (E8)
MASTER chief petty officer (E9)

In the air force, the top 3 enlisted ranks go like this:

MASTER sergeant (E7)
SENIOR master sergeant (E8)
CHIEF master sergeant (E9)

Wow.......real original!! :roll:
 

imported_Imp

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I never got that either. A Captain is practically a loser among officers in any other branch, but it's the shit in the Navy. So confusing. I know my army ranks pretty well. Still no clue on navy.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: JEDI
and if the marines are under the navy, why do they have army ranks?

Because if they didn't, things like the dreaded Rear Admiral would not be nearly as funny.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Imp
I never got that either. A Captain is practically a loser among officers in any other branch, but it's the shit in the Navy. So confusing. I know my army ranks pretty well. Still no clue on navy.

A Navy captain is about the same rank as a Marine Corps Major...maybe a Colonel, depends on the job.




Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Acause theyz differunt...While the Marines may be a department of the Navy, (the MEN'S department) they serve vastly different roles.

It's the Navy's job to give the Marines a ride to the war.

I know...My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment...;)

Hey, someone's gotta drive us to work! :D
 

chusteczka

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This is how I consider the Navy officer ranking names.

Lieutenant (O-3) - Assistant to the ship's Captain.
Commander of a ship (O-5) - Relatively smaller ship.
Captain of a ship (O-6) - A larger or more important ship, or a group of ships
Admiral (O-7 through O-10) - Commander of a large group of ships or a fleet of ships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_officer_ranks
In most navies, Captain is the common address to commanders of a naval ship, regardless of his actual rank.
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Many naval rank systems ultimately derive from either British, French or Spanish naval usage.

Generally speaking, naval ranks systems derived from French and Spanish usage use the names of different classes of ship (corvette, frigate, ship-of-the-line) in their rank titles. This is also the case in some other navies, e.g. two German naval ranks, those of "Corvette Captain" and "Frigate Captain".

Naval rank systems derived from British usage use the rank "captain" exclusively for the highest rank of ship's captain (i.e. of the largest class of ship) and use the rank "lieutenant" exclusively for the highest rank of ship's lieutenant (i.e. of the largest class of ship). In such navies, the captains and lieutenants of smaller ships are therefore unlikely to have the naval rank of "captain" or "lieutenant" respectively; and furthermore a naval "captain" is therefore equivalent to an army colonel, and a naval "lieutenant" to an army captain.

Officer Insignia
 

Dr. Detroit

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Army is completely diferent:

E1 - Private
E2- Private
E3 - Private First Class
E4 - Specialist or C
E5 - Sergeant
E6 - Staff Sergeant
E7 - Sergeant First Class
E8 - Master Sergeant
E9 - Sergeant Major

O1 - 2nd Lieutenant
02 - 1st Lieutenant
O3 - Captain
O4 - Major
O5 - Lieutenant Colonel
O6 - Colonel
07 - Brigadier general
O8 - Major General
O9 - Lieutenant General
O10 - General (4-Star)


 

dennilfloss

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Army is completely diferent:

E1 - Private
E2- Private
E3 - Private First Class
E4 - Specialist or C
E5 - Sergeant
E6 - Staff Sergeant
E7 - Sergeant First Class
E8 - Master Sergeant
E9 - Sergeant Major

O1 - 2nd Lieutenant
02 - 1st Lieutenant
O3 - Captain
O4 - Major
O5 - Lieutenant Colonel
O6 - Colonel
07 - Brigadier general
O8 - Major General
O9 - Lieutenant General
O10 - General (4-Star)

No corporal?

 

Dr. Detroit

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Army is completely diferent:

E1 - Private
E2- Private
E3 - Private First Class
E4 - Specialist or C
E5 - Sergeant
E6 - Staff Sergeant
E7 - Sergeant First Class
E8 - Master Sergeant
E9 - Sergeant Major

O1 - 2nd Lieutenant
02 - 1st Lieutenant
O3 - Captain
O4 - Major
O5 - Lieutenant Colonel
O6 - Colonel
07 - Brigadier general
O8 - Major General
O9 - Lieutenant General
O10 - General (4-Star)

No corporal?


You are correct, An E4 in the Army can either be a Specialist or Corporal. I was typing it hence the or C.


 

chusteczka

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
If a major outranks a lieutenant why does a lieutenant general outrank a major general?

It is the cycle of life returning an old man to the vigor of his youth. :p
 

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