Why does the moon look so big now?

GreatBarracuda

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Something did look unusual about the moon all of last week to me. Hmm....


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Why does the moon look so big now?

For the past few nights the moon has appeared larger than many people have seen it for almost 20 years. It is the world's largest optical illusion, and one of its most enduring mysteries.
It can put a man in space, land a probe on Mars, but Nasa can't explain why the moon appears bigger when it's on the horizon than when it's high in the night sky.

The mystery of the Moon Illusion, witnessed by millions of people this week, has puzzled great thinkers for centuries. There have even been books devoted to the matter.

Not since June 1987 has the moon been this low in the sky, accentuating the illusion even further.

But opinion differs on why there is such an apparent discrepancy in size between a moon on the horizon and one in the distant sky.

Two main theories dominate. The first, known as the Ponzo Illusion - named after Mario Ponzo who demonstrated it in 1913 - suggests that the mind judges the size of an object based on its background.

Ponzo drew two identical bars across a picture of railway tracks which converge as they recede into the distance (see pop-up, right). The upper bar looks wider because it appears to span the rails, as opposed to the lower bar, which sits between the rails.

In the same way, with a low-lying moon the trees and houses, which are familiar foreground reference points, appear smaller against the moon, which appears bigger than it really is.


Sceptics of this theory point to airline pilots who also see the illusion, although they have no ground reference points.

Alternatively, there's the theory that the brain perceives the sky as a flattened dome rather than the true hemisphere it really is.

Try for yourself

The theory runs that we believe things immediately overhead, flying birds for example, are closer than birds on the horizon. When the moon is on the horizon, the brain therefore miscalculates its true size and distance.

Then there are those who scoff that this is an illusion at all. They, at least, can be proved wrong. Hold a coin up to a low-lying moon to and compare differences in size. Any difference will remain exactly the same, as one traces the trajectory of the moon through the night.

Indeed, it's said that by viewing a low moon though a rolled up piece of paper, to block out the surroundings, the illusion immediately vanishes.

But experts have yet to agree on either or, indeed, any explanation. For the moment at least, the real reason for the Moon Illusion remains up in the air.

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Sheepathon

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It's because its organs are engorged....with moon rocks....and dust....sigh, got nothin.
 

sash1

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The mune! Bahahah (huge + moon put together). It's an inside joke with some of my friends. We were pretty damn high and looking at the moon and it looked huge and we kept calling it "the mune!"
 

TheNinja

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it has to do with that fact that the moon orbits around the earth and sometimes actually IS closer to the earth.
 

GreatBarracuda

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
it has to do with that fact that the moon orbits around the earth and sometimes actually IS closer to the earth.

Isn't that too obvious for the experts to miss? But then again, the answer doesn't have to be complicated. :p
 

ghostman

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
it has to do with that fact that the moon orbits around the earth and sometimes actually IS closer to the earth.

Don't just make up answers! Apparently, the moon is closest to the earth on March 12 (perigee) and furthest away from the earth on February 28 (apogee). So unless this article was posted more than 3 months ago (which it was not), distance plays a minor factor in our perception of the moon's size.

Also, because the earth is round, the moon would be closer to us when directly overhead. With the moon at the horizon, you'd also have to account for some width of the earth. Based on distance alone, you would expect the moon at the horizon to look smaller, not the other way around.

I did notice the moon at the horizon last night. It did look bigger.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Because Morgan Freeman is God and he gave Jim Carrey his power and Jim pulled the moon closer so he could romance Jennifer Anniston and do her in the brown eye.
 

Steve

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<Christopher Walken on The Simpsons>Goodnight, moooon! Goodnight, moooooon! Goodnight cow jumping over the moon. Please, children, scootch closer. Don't make me tell you *again* about the scootching. You in the red, chop-chop.</Christopher Walken on The Simpsons>
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
it has to do with that fact that the moon orbits around the earth and sometimes actually IS closer to the earth.
No... It doesen't.

It is an optical illusion. I didn't realize the true cause of it was still undetermined though. :Q
 

orion23

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Now that I think about it, I haven't seen the moon in a few wees / months.
I'm curious now!
 

Mucman

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Take a paper towel tube and look at the moon through it... later when the moon looks smaller, do the same. Notice anything?
 

jai6638

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yup.. I noticed it on my way to JFK.... it had a orange/red color and was pretty low..... I tried capturing it on my camera but couldnt capture it..
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: jai6638
yup.. I noticed it on my way to JFK.... it had a orange/red color and was pretty low..... I tried capturing it on my camera but couldnt capture it..
Exactly.

Just try taking a picture of it. ;)

Just goes to show you how what we see is influenced by our brains.
 

alrocky

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Originally posted by: ghostman
Originally posted by: TheNinja
it has to do with that fact that the moon orbits around the earth and sometimes actually IS closer to the earth.
Also, because the earth is round, the moon would be closer to us when directly overhead. With the moon at the horizon, you'd also have to account for some width of the earth. Based on distance alone, you would expect the moon at the horizon to look smaller, not the other way around.
I did notice the moon at the horizon last night. It did look bigger.
The moon always look bigger on the horizon than overhead. The light from the moon is traveling thru more of the atmosphere - light diffraction.