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Why does ONE part of my compy go slow?!?!?!

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Originally posted by: Googer
Display Properties are usualy paged and are not readaly avalable from RAM so when you click on it, the hdd needs to load it first. ADDING MORE RAM 2gb or more will alow you to edit BOOT.INI and you can change a line there that says: /fastdetect to /nolowmem I have done this and noticed that menus popup instantly but with only 512mb of ram it will slow down you programs or games.
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I really hate these snake oil cures. The above does absolutely nothing, if you honestly think it does your wrong and need to figure out what you actually did to improve your performance.

First, removing /fastdetect just changes how XP detects your serial and parallel devices. Second, the /nolowmem switch only comes into play on system with PAE turned on with more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory. It forces drivers and memory pools to be allocated above the first 4 gig of physical memory. On systems without PAE and less than 4 gigs of memory, this switch does absolutely nothing.

Bill
 
Also the performance increase you saw was most likely the placebo effect. Another thing is that I have fixed a few PC's where the user was following blackvipers stupid advice by disabling services and then lost funcionality of something. This is because blackvipers site fails to mention quite a few things about many services.
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yes that does happen, you do trade off some funtionality. But if done right you pc will function with out a flaw. I have no problems with my system.



First, removing /fastdetect just changes how XP detects your serial and parallel devices. Second, the /nolowmem switch only comes into play on system with PAE turned on with more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory. It forces drivers and memory pools to be allocated above the first 4 gig of physical memory. On systems without PAE and less than 4 gigs of memory, this switch does absolutely nothing.
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I know of what you are talking about, I have menushow delay set to 0. I used the no lowmem switch and noticed that start menus poped up faster (instantly) vs. a negelgable delay with only 512mb of ram. As I type right now I did not boot with nolowmem and have not except for experimental purposes Since my motherboard will not support more than 512mb.
 
Originally posted by: Googer
It had a measurable affect on frame rates and Super PI/ PI Fast.
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bsobel's right. Find out what else you changed that actually did what you attribute to changes in boot.ini.

blackviper's site is pretty silly, too. 🙂
 
Well, i have TuneXP running with all the random optimizations it has, CrapCleaner, RamBooster, Spybot, Avast Antivirus, yeah those are the only things that MIGHT be doing something...

it just bugs me that my cousin has a crappy computer that goes really slow, but it loads up that one freaking right click menu on the desktop, while mine has to THINK about it....ugh........and i used diskkeeper, and it didnt do anything.
 
Well, i have TuneXP running with all the random optimizations it has, CrapCleaner, RamBooster, Spybot, Avast Antivirus, yeah those are the only things that MIGHT be doing something...
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I would think the Rambooster of yours is the problem. I don't know exactly what the program claims to do, but it won't help performance. TuneXP may also be part of the problem. Windows XP is tweakd out of the box. There is no reason to get applications that claim to increase performance. Alot of them do the exct opposite.
 
Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Well, i have TuneXP running with all the random optimizations it has, CrapCleaner, RamBooster, Spybot, Avast Antivirus, yeah those are the only things that MIGHT be doing something...
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I would think the Rambooster of yours is the problem. I don't know exactly what the program claims to do, but it won't help performance. TuneXP may also be part of the problem. Windows XP is tweakd out of the box. There is no reason to get applications that claim to increase performance. Alot of them do the exct opposite.
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I agree, I have found most of those programs hamper performace and almost never live up to their claims.
 
i've seen norton antivirus do that on a couple of machines. you might try uninstalling the antivirus you use, and see if it helps. just a thought 🙂
 
Look, it seems to me that if only the right-clicking on the desktop is slow, then it's a graphics driver problem. So, just go download the latest video driver if you already haven't, and use Driver Cleaner and follow the Help instructions and I guarantee it'll be fixed. And if not, you can come to my house and slap me in the face.

Edit: Oh, and ignore that guy who said to get 2 GB of RAM.
 
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Look, it seems to me that if only the right-clicking on the desktop is slow, then it's a graphics driver problem. So, just go download the latest video driver if you already haven't, and use Driver Cleaner and follow the Help instructions and I guarantee it'll be fixed. And if not, you can come to my house and slap me in the face.

Edit: Oh, and ignore that guy who said to get 2 GB of RAM.
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Agreed. Update your chipset (motherboard chipset, that is) driver while you're at it too - I've imaged machines, not put on the chipset driver correctly, and had fast-writes turned off, and had AGP set to a lower value than it should've been. Just go to the manufacturer's website (ATI and, I'm guessing, Intel in the Sony's case) and grab the latest drivers and apply them.
 
Originally posted by: Geforcer
i've seen norton antivirus do that on a couple of machines. you might try uninstalling the antivirus you use, and see if it helps. just a thought 🙂
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:roll:
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Geforcer
i've seen norton antivirus do that on a couple of machines. you might try uninstalling the antivirus you use, and see if it helps. just a thought 🙂
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:roll:
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And your point being? I'm suggesting, not saying that's the case here. I have seen NAV cause right click problems because it would scan the files you try to right click and take longer than it should, causing a slowdown. So Yes, it can happen.
 
And your point being? I'm suggesting, not saying that's the case here. I have seen NAV cause right click problems because it would scan the files you try to right click and take longer than it should, causing a slowdown. So Yes, it can happen.
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My point being it's wrong to suggest someone uninstall security software when a) you have no idea it's related and b) it's just as easy to temporarily disable autoprotect to test your theory. Further, since autoprotect caches the results of the scan (unless the file changes) it could only explain a slow down on the first access to the menu, not everytime as the OP mentions.

 
Originally posted by: bsobel
And your point being? I'm suggesting, not saying that's the case here. I have seen NAV cause right click problems because it would scan the files you try to right click and take longer than it should, causing a slowdown. So Yes, it can happen.
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My point being it's wrong to suggest someone uninstall security software when a) you have no idea it's related and b) it's just as easy to temporarily disable autoprotect to test your theory. Further, since autoprotect caches the results of the scan (unless the file changes) it could only explain a slow down on the first access to the menu, not everytime as the OP mentions.
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Both machines I have seen this slowdown on didn't fix when disabling auto-protect. They did however work after uninstalling NAV. They were both out of date on licenses anyway, so they updated to the new version which worked fine. So something in the versions they were previously using was either corrupt or just not working correctly with windows xp.

Either way, I only suggested he uninstall to "see if it helps" anyway. I never said permanately remove it (although I probably should have said more clearer, to "temporary" remove it.) Anyway, it was a suggestion, not a do or die kind of thing. We're all here to suggest things to try (whether it be a problem we've ran into, or just something we "think" might be the problem). In the future, I'd suggest you not criticize other's opinions when we're only trying to help.
 
Does your motherboard have onboard intel video? I have seen when the intel ICH video drivers are loaded it causes the right click on desktop menu to come up very slow. Its just cause the drivers are adding crap to the right click menu and aparently there is some bad code with the associated DLLs..

KMF
 
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