You have something against consumers being able to buy exactly what they want or nvidia/ATI + partners getting a return on most of a fabbed wafer without charging the earth for a couple of products? If you do I'd suggest there is something retarded somewhere, and it isn't the products...
Won't it be much cheaper for the companies to produce just few chips and produce them in bulk.
eg: Produce a mainstream chip, and sell it say 8600. Let 8600GT be a highly overclocked version of the same with faster memory etc. And let that be the end of mainstream. That way it will be a lot lot cheaper to produce and similarly lot cheaper for us to buy
eg: Produce a mainstream chip, and sell it say 8600. Let 8600GT be a highly overclocked version of the same with faster memory etc. And let that be the end of mainstream. That way it will be a lot lot cheaper to produce and similarly lot cheaper for us to buy
Its like that when the cards are first releasd, but its nearing the end of the cycle so theres a ton of cards with the same core.
Originally posted by: smthmlk
their marketing dept might say "to cover every possible pricepoint". i say it's to confuse the ****** out of people
so joe smoe ends up buying 7900le or what ever for the same price as a 7900GT
i remember walking around at frys and seeing the shelf of ATI cards (circa 9800pro/xt days), where the 9600xt was priced $50 more than the 9800pro. I can only imagine that people saw the xt and high price and thought it was hot sh!t and picked it up. On the nvidia side nowadays, even *I* might get lured into such a trap, it's so awful.
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x300se, x300, x550, x600pro, x600xt, x700, x700se, x700pro, x700xt, x800, x800pro, x800xl, x800xt, x800xt pe, x850pro, x850xt, x850xt pe, x850 crossfire, x800gt, x800gto, x800gto2
I know I'm forgetting some, but eh. I personally liked all the selections available for ATI at the time. Same with Nvidia here.
they are produced in bulk. onlky that yields are often low and damagwed cores need to be used. hence cards like the 7900gs, x1900gt.
not everyone can afford a crappy x1900xt
Maybe I'm paranoid, but it may also have something to do with overwhelming the customer with information. Imagine both ATI and nVIDIA sold three different chips each. It would be easy to get an overview of all the offerings. But by offering 12-15 different kind of chips the customer may think that they only have the time to investige one of them two.
I feel that way when it comes to laptops. Ok, I'm a Thinkpad junkie and loyal to IBM/Lenovo but it's still fun to look around still. Go visit Dell's website at hit the laptop section. First you have to choose whether you're a home customer, small company, large company or goverment. This choice will affect the offerings, i.e. you can't buy a Precision or a Latitude as a home customer or a XPS as a company. To be able to get a proper view of all the products you have to click around quite a lot. This takes time and is, in lack of better words, f**king lame.
Well, as a home user the options are XPS, Entertainment and Basic. XPS seems to be the gamers choice, lets pick that one. And over to XPS M1710. Hey, they have four different options. Let us see, this one offer a red top, and this one a dvd-burner. Which video card should I choose? Options, options.. Dell has the largest market share and they know that more or less everyone looking for a computer will visit their site. Using a number of different options they will try to break the user, preventing her from checking up other companys. This is taxing for the user, especially a user that doesn't know as much as most of us do. I find if quite hard to track the deal breakers when looking for a computer.
I say this as a challenge to you all, imaging you wish to buy a laptop with bluetooth, trackpoint, DVI and a weight less then 5 lbs. How long will it take to check Dell's site to see if they offer this?
I feel that way when it comes to laptops. Ok, I'm a Thinkpad junkie and loyal to IBM/Lenovo but it's still fun to look around still. Go visit Dell's website at hit the laptop section. First you have to choose whether you're a home customer, small company, large company or goverment. This choice will affect the offerings, i.e. you can't buy a Precision or a Latitude as a home customer or a XPS as a company. To be able to get a proper view of all the products you have to click around quite a lot. This takes time and is, in lack of better words, f**king lame.
Well, as a home user the options are XPS, Entertainment and Basic. XPS seems to be the gamers choice, lets pick that one. And over to XPS M1710. Hey, they have four different options. Let us see, this one offer a red top, and this one a dvd-burner. Which video card should I choose? Options, options.. Dell has the largest market share and they know that more or less everyone looking for a computer will visit their site. Using a number of different options they will try to break the user, preventing her from checking up other companys. This is taxing for the user, especially a user that doesn't know as much as most of us do. I find if quite hard to track the deal breakers when looking for a computer.
I say this as a challenge to you all, imaging you wish to buy a laptop with bluetooth, trackpoint, DVI and a weight less then 5 lbs. How long will it take to check Dell's site to see if they offer this?
G80 is hopefully round the corner, so i guess theyre just milking G7x / flushing them out the system ready for the new kit. but personally i think the more choice the better. if theres more choice its more likely ill get what i want, for the money im willing to pay.
wouldnt wanna be in a situation where a 7600GT is under budget and too slow for my needs while the 7900 is over budget. id rather have some kind of half breed choice in the middle
also its not all NV's doing
the AIB partners like ASUS, XFX etc come up with some of the products. NV jus sells them the GPU, then they can take that GPU, say G73 (or whatever) and put it in a 7300GT, but then put the same chip in the 7300LE and castrate the memory bus.
its also a good way to cut waste, if a G71 comes off the press with only 16 functioning pipes..it'll go in a lower spec product so it can still be sold
wouldnt wanna be in a situation where a 7600GT is under budget and too slow for my needs while the 7900 is over budget. id rather have some kind of half breed choice in the middle
also its not all NV's doing
the AIB partners like ASUS, XFX etc come up with some of the products. NV jus sells them the GPU, then they can take that GPU, say G73 (or whatever) and put it in a 7300GT, but then put the same chip in the 7300LE and castrate the memory bus.
its also a good way to cut waste, if a G71 comes off the press with only 16 functioning pipes..it'll go in a lower spec product so it can still be sold
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