Why does my coffee maker only make lukewarm coffee now?

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I've a melitta mill & Brew about a year old. I remember the machine it replaced used to make coffee that was only luke warm and required microwaving to bring it up to a drinkable temp. I am quite positive this wasn't the case for my melitta when I bought it, but now after brewing I require 30-45 seconds of microwaving to bring a mug up to a drinkable temperature. I have every couple of months, done the vinegar clean out thing mentioned in the manual.

Is this what a person is doomed to with cheapo coffee makers? The one we have at work, which cost about the same but is a different machine, makes super hot coffee each time and is quite old and nobody ever maintains it.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I've a melitta mill & Brew about a year old. I remember the machine it replaced used to make coffee that was only luke warm and required microwaving to bring it up to a drinkable temp. I am quite positive this wasn't the case for my melitta when I bought it, but now after brewing I require 30-45 seconds of microwaving to bring a mug up to a drinkable temperature. I have every couple of months, done the vinegar clean out thing mentioned in the manual.

Is this what a person is doomed to with cheapo coffee makers? The one we have at work, which cost about the same but is a different machine, makes super hot coffee each time and is quite old and nobody ever maintains it.

It's a conspiracy Skoorb, we sell the crappy coffee makers to Canadians and talk them up & shit, but us US citizens buy ....

Oh crap, the coffee police are at the door, I've said too much already :(
 

olds

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Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
 

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
Not sure. I know that the water is pretty good to drink (plus has free drugs in it!). Even if buildup was significant, wouldn't the sediment quickly warm when turned on and transfer heat pretty well anyway?

 

olds

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
Not sure. I know that the water is pretty good to drink (plus has free drugs in it!). Even if buildup was significant, wouldn't the sediment quickly warm when turned on and transfer heat pretty well anyway?
Well, as everyone knows, when this build up is heated in coffee which is slightly acidic, it gives off metaisotope gases whech cool the product in contact with it.

 

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
Not sure. I know that the water is pretty good to drink (plus has free drugs in it!). Even if buildup was significant, wouldn't the sediment quickly warm when turned on and transfer heat pretty well anyway?
Well, as everyone knows, when this build up is heated in coffee which is slightly acidic, it gives off metaisotope gases whech cool the product in contact with it.
This has been disproven by multiple studies. Off the top of my head I can think of the one by Haris & Willis in 2002, then the three articles in 2004 by the Sachman group. Metaisotope gases even in the worse case scenarios do not account for more than 38% of a given pot of coffee's variance from optimal temperature.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
Not sure. I know that the water is pretty good to drink (plus has free drugs in it!). Even if buildup was significant, wouldn't the sediment quickly warm when turned on and transfer heat pretty well anyway?
Well, as everyone knows, when this build up is heated in coffee which is slightly acidic, it gives off metaisotope gases whech cool the product in contact with it.
This has been disproven by multiple studies. Off the top of my head I can think of the one by Haris & Willis in 2002, then the three articles in 2004 by the Sachman group. Metaisotope gases even in the worse case scenarios do not account for more than 38% of a given pot of coffee's variance from optimal temperature.

While that is certainly true, you said lukewarm coffee. A 38% reduction in temperature would likely result in the coffee being lukewarm. At least by Geller's scientific definition of lukewarm.

 

TruePaige

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Mmm..my French Press makes coffee that is the temperature of the water, so I usually end up microwaving beforehand, don't feel bad. =)

(Though my coffee is uber-tasty =p)
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
Not sure. I know that the water is pretty good to drink (plus has free drugs in it!). Even if buildup was significant, wouldn't the sediment quickly warm when turned on and transfer heat pretty well anyway?
Well, as everyone knows, when this build up is heated in coffee which is slightly acidic, it gives off metaisotope gases whech cool the product in contact with it.
This has been disproven by multiple studies. Off the top of my head I can think of the one by Haris & Willis in 2002, then the three articles in 2004 by the Sachman group. Metaisotope gases even in the worse case scenarios do not account for more than 38% of a given pot of coffee's variance from optimal temperature.

While that is certainly true, you said lukewarm coffee. A 38% reduction in temperature would likely result in the coffee being lukewarm. At least by Geller's scientific definition of lukewarm.

I just found a sensible word that brings up no google hits :Q
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Do you have hard water? If the elements come in contact with the water (never seen inside a coffee maker) the deposits will collect on the element.
Not sure. I know that the water is pretty good to drink (plus has free drugs in it!). Even if buildup was significant, wouldn't the sediment quickly warm when turned on and transfer heat pretty well anyway?
Well, as everyone knows, when this build up is heated in coffee which is slightly acidic, it gives off metaisotope gases whech cool the product in contact with it.
This has been disproven by multiple studies. Off the top of my head I can think of the one by Haris & Willis in 2002, then the three articles in 2004 by the Sachman group. Metaisotope gases even in the worse case scenarios do not account for more than 38% of a given pot of coffee's variance from optimal temperature.

While that is certainly true, you said lukewarm coffee. A 38% reduction in temperature would likely result in the coffee being lukewarm. At least by Geller's scientific definition of lukewarm.

I just found a sensible word that brings up no google hits :Q

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sandorski

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Might be buildup or just crappiness. Run some CLR through it and see if that helps or get a new one. I find that Black and Decker coffee makers work well, but I'm not a super hot coffee freak so you may not like it. My coffee is definitely hotter than Lukewarm though.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Might be buildup or just crappiness. Run some CLR through it and see if that helps or get a new one. I find that Black and Decker coffee makers work well, but I'm not a super hot coffee freak so you may not like it. My coffee is definitely hotter than Lukewarm though.
Is he any relation to Lukeperry?

:laugh:

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: sandorski
Might be buildup or just crappiness. Run some CLR through it and see if that helps or get a new one. I find that Black and Decker coffee makers work well, but I'm not a super hot coffee freak so you may not like it. My coffee is definitely hotter than Lukewarm though.
Is he any relation to Lukeperry?

:laugh:

hehe, oops. :(
 

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Might be buildup or just crappiness. Run some CLR through it and see if that helps or get a new one. I find that Black and Decker coffee makers work well, but I'm not a super hot coffee freak so you may not like it. My coffee is definitely hotter than Lukewarm though.
Do I really want to run CLR through something that I have to drink from, though?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: sandorski
Might be buildup or just crappiness. Run some CLR through it and see if that helps or get a new one. I find that Black and Decker coffee makers work well, but I'm not a super hot coffee freak so you may not like it. My coffee is definitely hotter than Lukewarm though.
Do I really want to run CLR through something that I have to drink from, though?

They do in the Commercial! :p:D I suspect you'd want to run just water a few times to rinse it out. Would be a good way to test how hot it gets. If it's still lacking in heat, toss it and get a new one.
 

eplebnista

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I had a black & decker coffee maker that had the heating element die in the middle of making a pot.