Why does everyone hate the LGA775 pushpins so much?

[Jax Omen]

I don't get it. I never had any problem with them.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Because I almost snapped my motherboard in half. I also blame them for warping my motherboard. Also, are you trusting plastic to keep 2 pound heatsinks from falling off and snapping your video card in two?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
Because I almost snapped my motherboard in half. I also blame them for warping my motherboard. Also, are you trusting plastic to keep 2 pound heatsinks from falling off and snapping your video card in two?

LOL your forget there extremely hard to install on a case thats already mounted unless you have small hands.

The pressure given on each corner is not uniform so you can get really bad core temps on a quad.

And i think its the stupidest design ever concieved at intel.

 

[Jax Omen]

I have huge hands and I've had no problems with them in two cases so far...



I definitely agree that it's a stupid design, I don't like pushing down on the mobo, but it's better than the socket 754 nonsense. I had to get ****ing PLIERS to unhook that crap from the mobo just to remove the heatsink. THAT is absurd.

 

[us3rnotfound]

i think the socket 478 design was much better.

 

[EarthwormJim]

I don't understand why they won't go with a screw system with springs.

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
I don't understand why they won't go with a screw system with springs.

ease of install. Do you really want some inexperenced goofball playing around in a case and possibly destroying a motherboard?

if someone want to upgrade a cpu, i believe it'll be much easier for the average person to do with the push style as opposed to the screw in type. push pin is fine for most and the screw in is better for us enthusiest.

 

[Rubycon]

They're fine for OEM but for tall, heavy enthusiast oriented products they are completely inadequate IMO.

 

[Davegod]

I first encountered them on this build just a few weeks ago. At one point, all 4 pins were through the hole and it looked like it was done. It's only because I've built machines using that nasty lever with the screwdriver hole on s462 that I knew it certainly wasnt firm enough. In the end I crushed it down corner by corner, which was really horrid.

It was the second worst installation I've encountered, tho admittedly at some distance from trying to put that Thermalright onto a s462 where the preassure is worrying enough but you know if the screwdriver slips out the mobo is ruined.

By a mile the best installation was the AMD stock cooler for the 3700+. Just flip the lever and it's done, rock solid at more or less the flip of a switch, I couldnt believe it.

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: Jax Omen

I definitely agree that it's a stupid design, I don't like pushing down on the mobo, but it's better than the socket 754 nonsense. I had to get ****ing PLIERS to unhook that crap from the mobo just to remove the heatsink. THAT is absurd.

Which socket 754 design did you have, I've only sen the 754/939 with the cam and flip the lever and it's locked. Simple and even pressure.

 

[AmberClad]

That blasted push-pin mechanism is horrible. Seriously, flimsy little plastic pins being used to hold a critical component onto your CPU? I can't for the life of me install those stock heatsinks properly. I'll get one leg down and locked, and as soon as I try to secure another leg, the first pops back out. Wow, that's confidence inspiring! I have a harder time using those push-pins than pretty much any other type of retention mechanism. Even those plastic Dell brackets are easy to install a heatsink in. If I ever get an aftermarket heatsink that has the push-pin mechanism, I'll be sure to buy the Thermalright bolt-thru kit to go along with it.

The only time I use that stock heatsink is when I have a bare board sitting on top of my desk, in which case, I'm usually just too lazy to dig up the various bolts and screws for my "real" heatsinks. In any configuration where I have a motherboard sitting vertically though, I wouldn't trust that heatsink one bit. Can you imagine if the Scythe Orochi used push-pins? That's the stuff nightmares are made of :Q...

/rant

 

[Jax Omen]

I had one where it had a pair of clamps, one on each side, that latched onto tabs on the underside of the plastic CPU socket area. It was an absolute nightmare to take off. Hell, I remember it being a nightmare to put ON.

 

[jaqie]

I have no experience with LGA775, and from what I have read over the year(s?) I am glad. I detested the old method that died after socket370 and early socket a, but I still have issue with the s939 cam mechanisms. The only HS mechanism I ever really liked was the ALPHA PAL8045, I would love to still be able to use that type of mount on new stuff.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
I don't understand why they won't go with a screw system with springs.

heh... <3 waterblocks.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Ugh, I'm always afraid of breaking my baord when isntalling those.

Don't know why they couldn't stick with a simple lever-clamp design.

 

[EarthwormJim]

Originally posted by: dawp

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
I don't understand why they won't go with a screw system with springs.

ease of install. Do you really want some inexperenced goofball playing around in a case and possibly destroying a motherboard?

if someone want to upgrade a cpu, i believe it'll be much easier for the average person to do with the push style as opposed to the screw in type. push pin is fine for most and the screw in is better for us enthusiest.

I think they are way harder to properly install than a screw system. They require such a huge amount of force compared to screws, it seem so much easier to break your computer with them.

There's pretty important circuitry around the cpu, what happens if your screwdriver slips while pressing down? Almost no down force is necessary with a simple screw system.

Springs on screws limit the amount of force you can put on a screw too, so it's not like a person would crush the CPU.

 

[jaqie]

circuitboards are actually a lot more resilient then most people think, until they have had years of 60C+ heat on them. They are layers of fiberglass, epoxy resin, and copper. Think of it as a mini plywood on steroids.

 

[wwswimming]

Why does everyone hate the LGA775 pushpins so much?

because they cause people to take the Lord's name in vane/vein/something.