Why Does Everyone Hate On Michael Bay?

[Queasy]

I don't dislike some of his stuff because they are popcorn flicks and aren't arthouse material. What I don't like is the slapdash way he puts some of his movies together that results in big giant obvious mistakes or plotholes.

One of the most obvious is WTH happened to Barricade in Transformers? One second he was on the road chasing the Autobots along with Bonecrusher and the next second he's gone for the rest of the movies.

 

[dudeofdur]

MICHEAL BAYSPLOSION!!! (im sure somebody covered this already...)

 

[oddyager]

I think it's mostly jealousy. He's fabulously successful and makes entertaining movies. He gives people what they want: explosions, cute girls, gun fights, stuff blowing up, helicopters, etc.

I think some people tend to get too wrapped up in the "artsy" side of movies - that they need a deep meaning or theme or whatever. The most basic purpose of a movie is for entertainment - bring the popcorn, turn off the brain, enjoy the action. People obviously like action flicks, as they sell the most tickets, and Mr. Bay caters specifically to that audience. Thus he makes a ton of money.

Now if you want someone to hate on, let's talk about Uwe Boll...

The only difference being Boll makes movies no one gives a damn about. Yes, Bay is successful because he knows what sells to the audience and the formula works. In that regard I respect him as a successful director like I respect Bruckheimer as a successful producer. I still say their movies are terrible though.

 

[jhbball]

I skipped the many posts after the OP, so this has probably been said already, but its worth reiterating...

Michael Bay makes big, expensive movies that are entertaining, but not particularly deep. The internet is full of loud, obnoxious snobs that think nothing popular or un-artsy is good. If a movie didn't debut at some sort of independent movie festival, its not good enough. If the movie has special effects more advanced than they can make on their Macbook, its not good enough.

Basically - he makes good movies that loud internet nerds won't like no matter what.

lol.

 

[zinfamous]

A lot of you guys have a fundamental disconnect that makes you assume that those who hate Michale Bay only like what you call "artsy" movies, or that we are "snobs"

you make this wild assumption that we think everything should be Godfather.

Despite repeated assertions that I love dumb action movies like True Lies, or Terminator and Alien movies and all that stuff, you guys have a real problem understanding the actual source of this ire.

Again...it's because, I believe, your film exposure is very narrow. You assume this, because you can't tell the difference between an entertaining action flick and this Michael Bay crud.

that truly baffles me.

boom-boom-boob-boom-boom-crappy CG-boom-boobs.

that is Michael Bay. If you consider that entertaining enough for your $12, well, more power to you. Understand that you are a simple individual, of course, but by all means: be proud of that.

 

[zinfamous]

Now if you want someone to hate on, let's talk about Uwe Boll...

I really don't understand how you can see the bad in this guy, and not in Michael Bay.

It defies logic. You are willingly blind to something...

The only difference is budget. They are both amateur idiots. And by amateur, I mean that they are stick on 14 year-old male mentality.

 

[PimpJuice]

Are you kidding me? I watched "Bad Boys" because I didn't know any better (his 1st movie so... no one did). I watched "Transformers" and specifically wrote-off Michael Bay and any sequels. I refused to watch the "Transformers 2: Rise of the Fallen" (God! Even the subtitle sounds retarded) and I personally know at least one other who did the same for the same reason. I did eventually watch "Pearl Harbor" only because it was an early BD movie that everyone insisted would impress me even if I didn't like Michael Bay movies. Every criticism I had heard was spot-on.

My point is that, YES, his suckitude is costing him $$$ and eyeballs.

You're right, not all of his movies are great but its not like hes a new director and everyone has high expectations. People just like to hate because they want to appear as if they are so sophisticated that popcorn flicks are beneath them.

Everyone knows what kind of movies he makes, he's made them for years.....so why are the same retards that complain about him still watching his movies?

He's making bank.....I don't think he gives a shit, nor do people that actually enjoy his movies.

 

[Deeko]

A lot of you guys have a fundamental disconnect that makes you assume that those who hate Michale Bay only like what you call "artsy" movies, or that we are "snobs"

you make this wild assumption that we think everything should be Godfather.

Despite repeated assertions that I love dumb action movies like True Lies, or Terminator and Alien movies and all that stuff, you guys have a real problem understanding the actual source of this ire.

Again...it's because, I believe, your film exposure is very narrow. You assume this, because you can't tell the difference between an entertaining action flick and this Michael Bay crud.

that truly baffles me.

boom-boom-boob-boom-boom-crappy CG-boom-boobs.

that is Michael Bay. If you consider that entertaining enough for your $12, well, more power to you. Understand that you are a simple individual, of course, but by all means: be proud of that.

Ahhh, the elitist, passive-aggressive snobbery I'd expect from a Michael Bay hater.

Are you from Seattle? You'd fit in very well here.

 

[zinfamous]

I love it when people use the word elitist. it makes me laugh.

Seattle, lolno.

I'm a southern redneck by all accounts.

 

[zinfamous]

You're right, not all of his movies are great but its not like hes a new director and everyone has high expectations. People just like to hate because they want to appear as if they are so sophisticated that popcorn flicks are beneath them.

Everyone knows what kind of movies he makes, he's made them for years.....so why are the same retards that complain about him still watching his movies?

He's making bank.....I don't think he gives a shit, nor do people that actually enjoy his movies.

here's the thing: WE DON't WATCH HIS MOVIES. We learned a long fucking time ago. why do you make idiotic assumptions?

Oh, of course now you're going to come with : "So if you don't watch his movies now, then what gives you the right to judge?"

jesus christ, you guys are like broken records.


let me hit you up with a well-known phrase: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

 

[Deeko]

I love it when people use the word elitist. it makes me laugh.

Seattle, lolno.

I'm a southern redneck by all accounts.

Well, you referred to someone that has a different taste in movies as you as being "simple minded". There are few statements more elitist than that, so nice try squirming out of it.

In attempting to refute a post about Michael Bay's detractors, you fit the stereotype to a T. Bravo.

 

[sactoking]

Why Does Everyone Hate On Michael Bay?

Michael Bay: [writing] "Leela cried for her love as Fry lay dead under the heavy book case. The giant brain laughed in triumph. 'Ha ha ha!' Then, for no reason, he left Earth forever. The end." There. Now he's trapped in a book I wrote. A crummy world of plot holes and spelling errors.
Chief Giant Brain: The big brain am winning again! I am the greetest! Mwa-ha-ha-ha! Now I am leaving Earth for no raisin!

This Futurama quote pretty much sums up why Michael Bay movies are crap. Set aside the bad acting, poor dialogue, and paper-thin premise that has been compromised for a $500,000,000 special effects budget and you get what have been referred to as "mindless fun popcorn flicks", except with plot holes so glaringly large as to render all entertainment value nonexistant.

 

[Kaido]

I really don't understand how you can see the bad in this guy, and not in Michael Bay.

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The only difference is budget. They are both amateur idiots. And by amateur, I mean that they are stick on 14 year-old male mentality.

Michael Bay's movie are popcorn movies - throwaway action flicks. The 14-year-old male mentality is their target market. Getting mad about it is like a diabetic going into a candy shop and getting upset at all the sugar. Well duh! :awe:

Uwe Boll's movies are similar in concept, but not in execution. I don't know what it is, poor writing maybe? Bay's movies may have some holes, but at least the story keeps you moving with it, whereas Boll's just keeps throwing up obstacles. Some of his visuals are excellent, like "In the Name of the King" - their DoP should get a gold star for that. Great photography. But the acting/writing/story just falls flat on its face. With Bay's movies, it's easy to get swept into the action; with Boll's, I constantly get thrown out of the movie mindset because of how tremendously stupid the lines are. Yeah, maybe the lines are it. Like Burt Reynolds as the king - "because of...the seaweed".

Don't get me wrong - Michael Bay doesn't nail every movie. I really enjoyed the first Transformers, but the second one was terrible. But if you like big action blow-em-up movies like Bad Boys II, Transformers, Armageddon, etc., then he's pretty fun.

 

[Deeko]

He's making bank.....I don't think he gives a shit, nor do people that actually enjoy his movies.

That's the thing - the snobbery isn't happy having their own opinions and watching the movies they like. They want to force their opinion down your throat. How DARE you like a movie they don't? How DARE the masses like something so foolish? They must be simple minded! Ha! If you like something I don't, I'm going to insult you! Take that, pleeb!

 

[jhbball]

That's the thing - the snobbery isn't happy having their own opinions and watching the movies they like. They want to force their opinion down your throad. How DARE you like a movie they don't? How DARE the masses like something so foolish? They must be simple minded! Ha! If you like something I don't, I'm going to insult you! Take that, pleeb!

Stop crying because you have terrible taste in movies.

 

[Kaido]

That's the thing - the snobbery isn't happy having their own opinions and watching the movies they like. They want to force their opinion down your throad. How DARE you like a movie they don't? How DARE the masses like something so foolish? They must be simple minded! Ha! If you like something I don't, I'm going to insult you! Take that, pleeb!

And that's what makes these threads as good as the Mac vs. PC threads

 

[Deeko]

Stop crying because you have terrible taste in movies.

A) Nowhere did I state I was a huge Michael Bay fan - I only like a handful of the movies posted in the OP, in fact. I'm merely answering the question in the OP.

B) Again, the snobbery attacks - you kids prove my point for me. If someone has a difference of opinion in something as purely subjective as movie taste, you feel you are in the position to decree what is "good" and what is "bad". This is exactly what I'm talking about, so like I said, bravo on fitting the stereotype.

 

[Kaido]

B) Again, the snobbery attacks - you kids prove my point for me. If someone has a difference of opinion in something as purely subjective as movie taste, you feel you are in the position to decree what is "good" and what is "bad". This is exactly what I'm talking about, so like I said, bravo on fitting the stereotype.

It's the Internet - don't feed the trolls!

 

[oddyager]

And that's what makes these threads as good as the Mac vs. PC threads

Most opinionated threads are going to degenerate into that LOL. It's not enough that people just have different opinions or tastes. One clearly is wrong.

 

[Kaido]

Most opinionated threads are going to degenerate into that LOL. It's not enough that people just have different opinions or tastes. One clearly is wrong.

Maybe we should segregate the Internet - We can filter them out by the ones who leave those awful Youtube comments :awe:

 

[roguerower]

Bad Boys - Liked
The Rock - Really Liked
Armageddon - Liked
Pearl Harbor - Meh, not so much, stuid love story got in the way.
Bad Boys II - Liked
The Island - Really Liked
Transformers - Really Liked
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - Really Liked

I don't understand where all the hatred stems from but I know that when I see Michael Bay next to Director I'm going to expect large explosions, somewhat corny acting, a few lame jokes here and there, but overall it'll be entertaining. I don't go to the movies anymore since I see them as a giant waste of money so the only thing I'm wasting is 2 hours on a Saturday or Sunday. If I want to think about something I'll go read a book.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[qliveur]

I think that the hatred is born of the fear that, because Bay's soulless crap is so ridiculously successful (as is the soulless crap of other talentless hacks like George Lucas and the aforementioned Uwe Boll), that there will come a time when decent flicks are simply no longer made.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

I think people who feel he ruined transformers need to go and watch the source material. It was good when you were 12 but it's just cheesy and bad as an adult. The 1986 animated movie was horrible. They killed off a bunch of characters just so they could release the dinobots. WTF is that shit?

 

[Kirby]

I don't like the type of movies he makes.

 

[zinfamous]

A) Nowhere did I state I was a huge Michael Bay fan - I only like a handful of the movies posted in the OP, in fact. I'm merely answering the question in the OP.

B) Again, the snobbery attacks - you kids prove my point for me. If someone has a difference of opinion in something as purely subjective as movie taste, you feel you are in the position to decree what is "good" and what is "bad". This is exactly what I'm talking about, so like I said, bravo on fitting the stereotype.

why does he have to pan every damn shot? a conversation between 4 people = 4 intercut shots panning from left to right, constantly, when there is absolutely no drama or tension going on in the conversation.

annoying, amateur, sloppiness is one of his trademarks. it makes me dizzy, and it does surprise me that there are those who don't notice these things, or are somehow put off by it. to each his own.

but like I've said earlier, I'm sure you have your little things that help you to quickly formulate your opinions of people that you meet in RL--it's the nature of social interaction. One of mine is a serious attraction and dedication to this type of taste. It helps me know that my time is better spent elsewhere. that's all.

you guys keep asking and making assumptions about me, and I have to keep clarifying what you don't want to understand. You assume it's snobbery, I think you're foolish to make such assumptions.