why does anandtech insist on not using AA in oblivion.

[TanisHalfElven]

not that it affects me but that really is stupid to say we can't run AA on oblivion. are these guys just dumb or is there some other reason ?

 

[BFG10K]

Maybe they don't know how to enable it or they feel the performance hit is so high nobody is interested in seeing the scores.

 

[n7]

As much as i like AT's reviews, as others have mentioned, their video card reviews are lacking...

 

[Hyperlite]

i was wondering the same thing...and IIRC they always say "and since we can't use AA in oblivion..." as opposed to "...we chose not to test oblivion with AA due to our previous test results..."

 

[Elderly Newt]

i think you cant have AA and HDR on at the same time?

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

I believe anantech turns off AA in Oblivion because the 7 series could not do AA and HDR in Oblivion.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
i think you cant have AA and HDR on at the same time?

Not on a 7-series card. And since they're still viable cards until the rest of the 8-series is introduced, AT is going to use the lowest common denominator in settings so they can test a wide variety of cards.

 

[Wreckage]

The GTS performs as well as a more expensive XTX (even better using the XXX), so I am not sure why AT left it out of the bench marks.

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2007q1/geforce-8800gts-320mb/index.x?pg=7

 

[Dainas]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
i think you cant have AA and HDR on at the same time?

Not on a 7-series card. And since they're still viable cards until the rest of the 8-series is introduced, AT is going to use the lowest common denominator in settings so they can test a wide variety of cards.

Then why not have a separate list for cards that CAN do it? Is the X1950pro, X1950XTX, 8800GTS 320mb and 640mb along with the 8800GTX not enough to make an interesting graph?

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
i think you cant have AA and HDR on at the same time?

Not on a 7-series card. And since they're still viable cards until the rest of the 8-series is introduced, AT is going to use the lowest common denominator in settings so they can test a wide variety of cards.

unfortuanatly that mean AT will become the lowest common denominatoir of review sites.
come on tell the worldthe crappy 7-series can't do it. tell the ppl that x1k series could and 8k series can instead of saying you can't

 

[Woofmeister]

I can't enable AA with HDR in Oblivion with my 88000 GTX either.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: Woofmeister
I can't enable AA with HDR in Oblivion with my 88000 GTX either.

well you can if you tried hard enough.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: Woofmeister
I can't enable AA with HDR in Oblivion with my 88000 GTX either.

Just turn on HDR in the in-game control panel then use the nVidia control panel to force AA. Works like a charm.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Dainas

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
i think you cant have AA and HDR on at the same time?

Not on a 7-series card. And since they're still viable cards until the rest of the 8-series is introduced, AT is going to use the lowest common denominator in settings so they can test a wide variety of cards.

Then why not have a separate list for cards that CAN do it? Is the X1950pro, X1950XTX, 8800GTS 320mb and 640mb along with the 8800GTX not enough to make an interesting graph?

Sure, what test would you like to get rid of to make room for it? Oblivion is a time-intensive game to test.

 

[Ackmed]

I personally think its silly to not test with it. Some people do not like HDR, some peoples cards cant do HDR+AA at the same time. Virtually everyone likes AA, and it should be tested with every single game. Its what the readers want, not what reviewers want.

 

[josh6079]

I've asked the same question in an earlier thread here.

I've came to the conclusion that they are just inept when attempting to produce a realistic Oblivion benchmark. There isn't a logic reason why not to since most of their other benchmarks show no AA and AA numbers alike.

 

[josh6079]

Oblivion is a time-intensive game to test.

Hardly. Splinter Cell: Double Agent was / is lacking even more than Oblivion and they made a whole review about it. If one can't successfully get HDR+AA working in a fully capable game a year old with fully capable hardware it's a case of P.I.C.N.I.C.

 

[Journer]

ive got my obliv running at 1080p with all settings maxed (HDR, forced AA, etc.) and it works great on my 8800gtx

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: josh6079

Oblivion is a time-intensive game to test.

Hardly. Splinter Cell: Double Agent was / is lacking even more than Oblivion and they made a whole review about it. If one can't successfully get HDR+AA working in a fully capable game a year old with fully capable hardware it's a case of P.I.C.N.I.C.

They also only did that once however, notice how they never reused it in further reviews. Take a look at the 8800GTS 320MB review, they had 24 different Oblivion setups to test, and because it's run by hand that requires it is run multiple times to average out the variability. A few minutes per test(factoring in loading times) and the times needed to swap around cards and drivers, and that will take what? All day to run? You're not going to get a billion+1 setups tested in such a time intensive game.

Either AT has to stop testing 7-series cards or they can't test it with AA. I hardly think the fact that they choose the former over the latter makes them inept.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: ViRGE


Either AT has to stop testing 7-series cards or they can't test it with AA. I hardly think the fact that they choose the former over the latter makes them inept.

Sure it does. Because everyones card can do AA, not everyones can do HDR. As I said, some people dont like HDR.

What they need to do, if they want to help their readers more, is do tests with HDR and then a seperate test with AA. This no AA testing is just not helping readers as much as having the tests would.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Dainas

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
i think you cant have AA and HDR on at the same time?

Not on a 7-series card. And since they're still viable cards until the rest of the 8-series is introduced, AT is going to use the lowest common denominator in settings so they can test a wide variety of cards.

Then why not have a separate list for cards that CAN do it? Is the X1950pro, X1950XTX, 8800GTS 320mb and 640mb along with the 8800GTX not enough to make an interesting graph?

Sure, what test would you like to get rid of to make room for it? Oblivion is a time-intensive game to test.

dump quake 4/doom3.

 

[BFG10K]

The GTS performs as well as a more expensive XTX (even better using the XXX), so I am not sure why AT left it out of the bench marks.

Not with AA it doesn't and we're discussing exactly that in this thread.

Edit: Oh, you're talking about Oblivion. Your comment looked like it was a blanket one.

 

[TheRyuu]

This is why I like Techreport's reviews of video cards.
http://www.techreport.com/

 

[josh6079]

You're not going to get a billion+1 setups tested in such a time intensive game.

Not with Anandtech we're not, which is the point of this thread.

How ever "difficult" it may be for Anandtech's team to run, they are either inept in their time management or disregard realistic (and fully capable) settings. Other review sites have found ways to both review Oblivion realistically and provide other titles while doing so.

It's not the lack of hardware, it's not the lengthy process of benchmarking - if that lengthy at all - and it's not a crunched time frame as they have reviewed said game time and time again incorrectly, even with more titles in the mix. Anandtech simply is inept when it comes to benchmarking Oblivion realistically with today's hardware.

 

[Woofmeister]

Originally posted by: SexyK

Originally posted by: Woofmeister
I can't enable AA with HDR in Oblivion with my 88000 GTX either.

Just turn on HDR in the in-game control panel then use the nVidia control panel to force AA. Works like a charm.

Well, obviously. I meant from within the game.