Why does AMD have so many different versions of the 2.4 MHZ CPU's. They have the 3400, 3700, 3800, 4000, and of course the X2 4600 and 4800. I have the 3400, but I'm building a new computer and I'm probably going to get the X@ 4800. I sthere a significant difference between all these to justify so many, for instance is the 4000 that much better than my 3400 other than socket 939. If i was to go from the 3400 to the 4000, would i even notice a difference? I just happened to notice all the different versions of the 2.4 MHz processor and thought I'd ask the question.
Why does AMD have so many 2.4 MHZ CPU versions
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2.4 Ghz you mean. As Hacp said, both companies do it. Whenever there's a die shrink, etc, there's overlap. With dual core, there's more overlap. Just like Intel, there's more overlap still with cache size. It's just how it works in the CPU market, they want to hit every price point imaginable.
Zebo
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You forgot FX53 and maybe even a mobile part. No you won't notice. 3400 is most underrated chip AMD ever named should have been called a 3600 since it beats 3500 in 95% of benchmarks hangs with 3800 in most things. Only reason for you to upgrade is a) you feel the need for dual processing power, then X2 is where it's at b) Need a real video card like 7800 which works on 939 PCIe boards.
oh c'mon, it's not that hard to distinguish between a 3.06ghz (533fsb), 3.0C, 3.0E, 530, 530J, 531, 630, and 830. EZ STUFF SO STOP WHINING!!!
I dont know but it drives me insane. Its like the one thing about computers that can get to me. People can confuse memory and hard drive space all day long and it doesnt bother me, but some reason ghz and mhz drives me up a wall.
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Look I build computers, I'm very good at building computers, and I know the difference between GHZ and MHZ. I wrote this late at night and wrote the subject incorrectly. If it makes you all happier its 2.4 GHZ or 2400 MHZ. I understand the obvious differences, like cache size and socket type, but is on really better than the others, excluding the dual core since we know the advantages there. For example if I went from my socket 754 3400 to the socket 939 4000, would I really be upgrading, and also going from my 6800 GT to a 7800 GTX. I have a 22 inch monitor and like to game at 1600 X 1200.
I think you'll find that 2.4GHz represents a binning sweet spot at the moment. The chips that can go faster reliably become FX series and all excess becomes lower speed variants.
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The change from a 6800gt to a 7800gtx at 1600x1200 would be quite noticeable, the change from 754 3400 to 939 4000 would not. In your case the new 754 pci-e board sounds like the best option, the only thing you would lose vs. 939 would be dual channel ram which is a small improvement. And the 7800gtx should last you through the next platform (M2) if you feel the need to upgrade the CPU/RAM/MOBO at that time.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20051121/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts-27.html
Finally a chart that shows X2s as well. I like how the 3700+ Clawhammer socket 754 (I just received to build a new system) beats the CRAP out of the X2 3800+. Just proves my point you should wait for more multithreaded programs before buying an X2.
There is a multithreaded test there but it's done with 4 programs running at a time.
Finally a chart that shows X2s as well. I like how the 3700+ Clawhammer socket 754 (I just received to build a new system) beats the CRAP out of the X2 3800+. Just proves my point you should wait for more multithreaded programs before buying an X2.
There is a multithreaded test there but it's done with 4 programs running at a time.
too bad they didn't put s754/s939 or sc/dc differences, expecially around the 3400+/3500+ areas. could get confusing for those who read 3400+ Newcastle(2200/200 NF4 DDR400) 4x HTT and 3400+ Newcastle(2400/200 NF4 DDR400)
Yeah, they had some before where you could click on the bars and see the setup they used. Don't know why it's not the same this time.
Yeah, you can click on setup for those ones. It's almost odd to see the socket 754 3700+ so far ahead of the pack on some benchmarks. It was second behind the FX-55 on WinRAR. Go figure
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Originally posted by: Zebo
These guys are throwing new product all the time... missed that.
Yup yup. Epox s754 SLI board costs $102 at the 'Egg, in stock last I checked. Also, three great non-SLI PCIe choices would be:
DFI Infinity based on NF4 - known good overclocker for $75
Abit based on NF4 - back in the game, report of 335MHz system bus for $69
Biostar based on Geforce6100 - cheap and overclockable, plus best integrated graphics performance FWIW, and mATX for small systems $60
That's because most fanbois here are, hmmm, how should I put it mildly... RETARDED with their biases. Yes, we all know that all else being equal socket 939 is faster. However, all else is NOT equal. With the A64 platform, clock speed is #1 for performance, followed by cache size and dual channel memory. Dual channel memory is NOT #1 - CPU clock speed is.
I'm actually glad that AMD has not released socket 939 Semprons into the aftermarket yet, and that the supply of socket 754 A64 is drying up, plus "modern" motherboards are available for socket 754. This may end some confusion around here. What's your budget for only CPU/mobo? Over $200, get socket 939. Under $200, get socket 754. 'Nuff said.
I do have a good system now, but most of it is old technology. I have an athlon 3400+, 2 512 of OCZ DDR 3200, Seagate 120 paralell ata 100, and a BFG 6800 GT. I've really been wanting a larger SATA hardrive and the advantages of socket 939. Also, with all the graphically demanding games out now I want a 7800GTX, which I need PCI-E for.On top of that I want 2 GB of ram. Thay's why I have the CPU dilemma, do I spend a little less and get the 4000+, go dual core, or say screw it and get the FX-55.
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