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I see a lot of games benchmarks where 660ti handily beats the 7950, what is the reason there? The 7950 seems to have much better specs, is it all downto drivers? Are nvidia shaders that much powerful than amd shaders?
Mostly it is a matter of how much AA is being used in the test. If the test uses no AA and up to 4x MSAA at max, the 660ti does better than when they use 8x MSAA or higher.
Stop spreading BS. A 7950 can barely play today's games at 1080p without MSAA. And a 660Ti is worse.
Stop spreading BS. A 7950 can barely play today's games at 1080p without MSAA. And a 660Ti is worse.
Hopefully you read my post correctly. I did not say that the 660ti was faster than the 7950. I only said the 660ti has more favorable results when less AA is used.
Example:
If you go through the last year, you'll find a similar pattern with all Nvidia cards. AMD tends to do better on all their mid to high end cards, when high levels of AA is used.
When I say barely play I mean barely manage a minimum of 60 fps in the latest releases like TR, Crysis 2 and 3, Bioshock infinite, hitman etc
HD7950 V2/boost is faster than 660Ti on average. Once HD7950 is overclocked, it's game over for the 660Ti. At 1035-1050mhz or so, the 7950 = GTX680. GTX660Ti cannot reach that speed while HD7950s often go to 1150+mhz. Some games run faster on NV cards due to better driver optimizations/game engine that runs faster on a particular architecture based on the strengths of that architecture. You aren't going to have every game where 7950 beats a 660Ti or vice versa.
You cannot directly compare specs between Kepler and GCN cards because you are then assuming each of the sub-components like TMUs, SPs, ROPs, memory bandwidth between 2 architectures are similarly efficient. This is not true. If you overclock your card, then it'll outperform the 660Ti OC in most cases because HD7950 has 25-30% overclocking headroom from 925mhz.
-I always pick my settings for sub 40 fps because stutter adds so much to the game playHopefully you read my post correctly. I did not say that the 660ti was faster than the 7950. I only said the 660ti has more favorable results when less AA is used.
Example:
If you go through the last year, you'll find a similar pattern with all Nvidia cards. AMD tends to do better on all their mid to high end cards, when high levels of AA is used.
-I always pick my settings for sub 40 fps because stutter adds so much to the game play
-really why post that shot.
edit*** even at $$ 20.00 a card they are unplayable and a waste of money at those settings
I have 3 7950s
1 does 1190mhz core
1 1255mhz core
1 1345mhz core
All boost cards that i got on sale for 249$ + selling crysis 3 / Bioshock when they were going for 30$ per game.. So i paid 190 = 195$ each for them..
And i know the 1255mhz card / 1345mhz card beat just about any 680 out there spare afew golden ones.
Stock HD7000 is not clocked very high... 850mhz.. Overclocking to say 1150mhz " which most do " is a real game changer.
so your 1345mhz 7950 will beat my 1250mhz 680?
Yes Cause it beats my 1300mhz 680.
AA saturates the bandwidth and VRAM. 7950 has both better memory bandwidth and total memory.
Also note that a stock 7950 is rather slow. 850 Mhz on the clock. And it may be that those CUDA cores are slightly more flexible at gaming.
Either way, 7950s overclock to 1000 MHz+, and with a higher bandwidth and memory, outshines the 660 Ti afterwards.
If there is a dumb thread of the month contest I nominate this one.
Apparently you missed this then?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2316391
My contribution to the thread: None really.
My 6870 runs everything I throw at it at the resolution I play at (1920x1200)
*If* I were in the market for a new card, I'd probably throw a dart between the 660ti and the 7950.
Apparently you missed this then?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2316391
My contribution to the thread: None really.
My 6870 runs everything I throw at it at the resolution I play at (1920x1200)
*If* I were in the market for a new card, I'd probably throw a dart between the 660ti and the 7950.
I nominate this one ~If there is a dumb thread of the month contest I nominate this one.