Why do you think Keynes supported extreme intervention?

[Anarchist420]

It seems to me like

1. he couldnt give into disorder,
2. he knew he could make money off of intervention at every step,
3. and he knew that he could get successfully get a cult going; he thought some of his followers could fool some people like the mercantilists he liked so much did before him.

Mises was a lot like Keynes and i am guessing neither would (could?) believe that anarchy was more compatible with gross output than the State is. Perhaps those who start institutions (especially economic cults) are not as smart as their followers (I want to die in case I am capable of starting an institution).

But mises was a very good man because:
1. Rothbard never thought incorrectly,
2. rothbard seemed to favor mises,
3. rothbard was as jeffersonian as anyone.

I doubt Rothbard could shut anyone out forever (he played devil's advocate and i am a fart devil if not a piece of shit demon) and i imagine he invites people into heaven (inductive reasoners like him are the best creators), as he didnt seem to have keen senses (he seems to me to have reasoned and understood by his mind which means he was not an absolutist; perhaps the ghosts of keynes and mises will always dislike me because they could've sensed a monkey in me if we had been alive at the same time).

 

[Veliko]

Is this another shit thread were you ask an inane question, don't bother responding to any of the posts that people make, and it slides off the forum without even making it to two pages...?

 

[thraashman]

Wasn't there a limit being enforced as to how many threads he could create in a week? Who the hell thought it was a good idea to revoke that limit?

 

[sandorski]

You're either a troll or seriously psychologically disturbed.

 

[Moonbeam]

You're either a troll or seriously psychologically disturbed.

I think it's the latter and he can't help it. He can't detach himself from his thinking and is buys into it as it were reality. None of us actually know anything. But that's what in the world of fools is called stupid so we pretend we do to save face. But because the OP has an uncontrollable need to think he has an especially bad case. Lucky for me I have so many Neanderthal genes I never think at all. Love you OP.

 

[Bitek]

Wow. That last paragraph is a doozy. A420 is a fire-farting demon shit monkey fighting through time and space against ghosts of cult leaders and their armies of bearded economists.

I'm at a loss for words..

 

[Anarchist420]

I think it's the latter and he can't help it. He can't detach himself from his thinking and is buys into it as it were reality. None of us actually know anything. But that's what in the world of fools is called stupid so we pretend we do to save face. But because the OP has an uncontrollable need to think he has an especially bad case. Lucky for me I have so many Neanderthal genes I never think at all. Love you OP.

I am glad that you feel empathy and that you are smart enough to notice that i cant help myself.

Wow. That last paragraph is a doozy. A420 is a fire-farting demon shit monkey fighting through time and space against ghosts of cult leaders and their armies of bearded economists.

I'm at a loss for words..

Thank you for being polite about it. I am evil and stupid.

 

[Bitek]

I am glad that you feel empathy and that you are smart enough to notice that i cant help myself.
Thank you for being polite about it. I am evil and stupid.

I'd say you have an inability (or don't care) to selectively edit your words to make a clear and concise point. Your posts turn into mind dumps, and end up disjointed and incoherent as you add information that has nothing to do with the original point, or are presented without any context or perspective to the reader.

You started with a thought that quickly went into a side track of a roller coaster ride through your psyche.

Your main argument is what? Keynes' theories are wrong because, while they may stabilize economic disorder, chaos is actually preferable for long-term economic vitality.
OK why?

Then explain this idea without referencing shit demons, monkeys, or cult leaders.

 

[Moonbeam]

I am glad that you feel empathy and that you are smart enough to notice that i cant help myself.
Thank you for being polite about it. I am evil and stupid.

These are the problems I have with this reply. I am glad you are glad I have empathy for you but that's not good enough for me. My desire is that you have empathy for yourself. I understand what it means not to be able to help yourself. I couldn't help myself either. What happened to me was that I gave up, I surrendered, I collapsed, I fell into the thing I wanted to avoid, deep permanent everlasting despair and suffering but the moment I really really gave up it all ended. I gave everything up including all my fears and needs, and there was nothing left but the silence of infinity and the beauty of empty being. I ceased to believe in what I thought was me and surrendered to the infinite nothing I really am. All my thoughts, all my opinions, everything that I believed, I just let go of all of them. I let go of the notion that I was evil or stupid or that it meant anything. There is no meaning, nothing to discover, nowhere to go. There is nothing at all but being and when you are you are everything, complete and whole. I suffered only the delusion of attachment to my thinking. The mind is a nattering nabob of negativity and I believed I should be miserable. I wanted to be loved so so so so bad. But all the infinite love in the universe is hidden in the self buried under self contempt. Don't attach yourself, if you can, to the things your mind thinks and don't beat yourself up if you can't. There is thinking and what you feel about it. Both can be unreal. The type writer types, the emotions record, it's the media of paper and recording device that reality exists. All these things are the noise that hides the silence of being.

 

[Anarchist420]

i wish i had an anti-psychiatrist (an intuitive-perceptive, especially an NTP, could explain that the best)

I'd say you have an inability (or don't care) to selectively edit your words to make a clear and concise point. Your posts turn into mind dumps, and end up disjointed and incoherent as you add information that has nothing to do with the original point, or are presented without any context or perspective to the reader. You started with a thought that quickly went into a side track of a roller coaster ride through your psyche. Your main argument is what? Keynes' theories are wrong because, while they may stabilize economic disorder, chaos is actually preferable for long-term economic vitality. OK why? Then explain this idea without referencing shit demons, monkeys, or cult leaders.

thank you for being nice about it and for your excellent suggestions but i am getting tired now so i might try to come back on topic later.

These are the problems I have with this reply. I am glad you are glad I have empathy for you but that's not good enough for me. My desire is that you have empathy for yourself. I understand what it means not to be able to help yourself. I couldn't help myself either. What happened to me was that I gave up, I surrendered, I collapsed, I fell into the thing I wanted to avoid, deep permanent everlasting despair and suffering but the moment I really really gave up it all ended. I gave everything up including all my fears and needs, and there was nothing left but the silence of infinity and the beauty of empty being. I ceased to believe in what I thought was me and surrendered to the infinite nothing I really am. All my thoughts, all my opinions, everything that I believed, I just let go of all of them. I let go of the notion that I was evil or stupid or that it meant anything. There is no meaning, nothing to discover, nowhere to go. There is nothing at all but being and when you are you are everything, complete and whole. I suffered only the delusion of attachment to my thinking. The mind is a nattering nabob of negativity and I believed I should be miserable. I wanted to be loved so so so so bad. But all the infinite love in the universe is hidden in the self buried under self contempt. Don't attach yourself, if you can, to the things your mind thinks and don't beat yourself up if you can't. There is thinking and what you feel about it. Both can be unreal. The type writer types, the emotions record, it's the media of paper and recording device that reality exists. All these things are the noise that hides the silence of being.

Thank you But I dont have anywhere close to your ability to observe and be aware (you are one caste above me, as I am pretty sure that you are an SFP) so I can never act in my own non-aggressive rational self-interest alone. I wish I could, but my idealist (INFJ) dad pretty much made me and my mom was made by her father (who was a lot like you) and my own father. my maternal grandmother was made by the State (she could've worked for the private sector, but she alienated people, she had poor fluid reasoning, and she was very unaware of her environment as well as more impervious than not so she wouldnt have been satisfied), my grandfather, and her step father. and then her mother came over here extra-legally with extreme guidance and she was a carrier of new moan yuh. to make everything worse, my paternal grandfather was like my maternal grandmother (im not going into the details). long story short, i am just like my matrilineage.

that said, i have never finished evil. i do not want to be a burden on other people though and i inherently am a burden as much as anyone. i am bad waste. my dad is who makes me but then people who could appreciate him more than i do dont have him if i have him. I am seldom satisfied. I am too much like leon belmont. my earliest friend anywhere close to my age that stayed around with me for years was an INTP like jefferson was as he even works for W&M but probably not just W&M, probably shouldnt have said that and one of my other best friends is an ENTP like matthias cronquist was before elisabetha died.

anyway, I love you moonbeam for your empathy, your artisanship, your intelligence, and your ability to lift people up.

 

[OverVolt]

Moonbeam and A420 ahhhh.

Anyway Keynes was shaped by the great depression when everyone was trying to balance their budget. The government was contributing to the lack of liquidity by trying to shore up their own budget. Kind of like how George W. filled up the strategic petroleum reserve as oil was skyrocketing to $147/barrel. He was contributing to the hype, the government shouldn't be part of the business cycle they should be acting counter cyclical. I feel like so long as during a recession the government isn't sloshing around with the dumb money trying to sell when everyone is selling and buy when everyone is buying then that's sufficient. They keep trying to apply things that were pertinent to Keynes' time (The great depression and 1950's) to modern day.