why do you need high fps?

[toph99]

the human eye see's 7 frames per second as one fluid motion. i have a voodoo3 2000PCI 143@175, and i get between 24 and 70fps in UT in 800x600. i see some of these benchmaks into 100+fps at the same resolution, andi ask why do you need it? i'm sure no one can tell the difference between 30fps and 150fps at the same resolution

 

[YaKuZa]

so that when u play online, u dont see skippin and therefore wont lose your opponent.

 

[EvilDonnyboy]

they may get 170 fps average, but it may drop to 30fps at the bad times. On average, the human eye can't tell the diff between 60fps and up. So people aim for a minimum of 60fps. but most benchmarks don't tell the minimum, just an average, so people just go for a high average.

 

[CarpeDeo]

Human eye sees 7 fps as fluid??? More like 30-35 . . .

 

[BFG10K]

the human eye see's 7 frames per second as one fluid motion.

Rubbish. This is even worse than the other guy that claimed it was 24 fps. Is your monitor at 7 Hz refresh rate? Because according to you that's all you need.

i'm sure no one can tell the difference between 30fps and 150fps at the same resolution

Well try looking and playing a bit harder.

 

[pen^2]

TVs have motion blur so 30FPS maybe fine on it. however, computer games do not have motion blur implemented yet, so up to 60fps you do feel the difference in 'smoothness'. speakin of which 3dfux's 'mouse trails' isnt what real motion blur is supposed to be...

 

[RobsTV]

<< i have a voodoo3 2000PCI 143@175, and i get between 24 and 70fps in UT in 800x600. i see some of these benchmaks into 100+fps at the same resolution, andi ask why do you need it? i'm sure no one can tell the difference between 30fps and 150fps at the same resolution >>



The difference here is when you add details or features. Add 32 bit, and the V3 (if it could do 32 bit) would run 1/2 the speed you now get, while the other cards will still be above what is needed. Next turn on FSAA, and the V3 (if it could do FSAA) would be a slide show, while the fast cards will still run fine, although amybe at 1/4 there intial speed.

Adding features slows down cards, which is why you need high fps.

 

[utopia]

I can tell that 100FPS look better than 60FPS. I cant play below 45FPS.

 

[blurredvisionx]

I always though the human eye refreshed at around 60FPS. I read this in a gaming magazine somewhere, probaly PCGamer, but I could definitely be wrong. And I can tell the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS. After playing games as long as I have, you can start to tell the difference. It's hard to explain, you can just tell.

 

[Teasy]

I think what the guy means is when we see an article and it has a Geforce GTS Ultra running at 150fps in some game and then another card doing 80fps and you go and buy the Ultra cos it does 150fps, why? reviews should move more onto card features and how constant the FSP are, the Geforce GTS Ultra may get to a 150fps average but it may hit as low as 25fps were as the other card might only get 80fps but might not go any lower then 40fps and would in effect be the better card, Nvidia really know how to fool people with there crazilly fast cards, but wouldn't it be better to have a card that runs between 50-60fps constantly, after all if you are playing a game that is running at 150fps top and as low as 20fps you'll have a very jurky game because the game will be speeding up and slowing down allot

To robsTV
FPS persay aren't important when adding features, for instance look at the voodoo5 5500, it drops well behind the GTS when at low res at 16bit without many features but when you take it to 32bit and add features such as FSAA it can win, the actuall fillrate, bandwidth and the implementation of the features are most important things not raw FPS.

 

[MustangSVT]

Agree, hence another shameless vote for Radeon . And on that 7FPS issue, that's so funny where did u get that idea? 7 fps? if that's true get an old pc nextto yours Pentium 120 maybe and run UT software. make sure it runs faster then 7fps (around 10 or so) and see if u can tell the difference . have fun

 

[rampage2001]

>the better card, Nvidia really know how to fool people with there crazilly fast cards, but >wouldn't it be better to have a card that runs between 50-60fps constantly, after all if you are >playing a game that is running at 150fps top and as low as 20fps you'll have a very jurky game >because the game will be speeding up and slowing down allot

You want 60fps constantly on your GTS Ultra? Turn on Vsync and run your refresh at 60hz. I promise you it will be constant. If a Ultra dropped to 20fps in a game, there is NO card out there that will barely run the game in question. Theoretically you are correct but cards that hit 150fps in a given game are not finding the game taxing enough to drop that far. This talk about radeon makes me laugh, the Ultra is the GPU fairys gift to the world and a radeon was simply a thought in peoples mind in the week or so before the release of the Ultra.

The human eye considers &quot;fluid&quot; at a minimum definition of the word to be 30fps. I dont play at a given resolution if I'm hitting below that in major firefights. And you can tell a difference in fluid-ity(?) if you are getting 100fps because when that badass rocket explodes the screen with blood and limbs your 100fps just became 60, maybe less.

 

[glen]

<< Human eye sees 7 fps as fluid??? More like 30-35 . . . >>


More like 80.

 

[shk]

I loved the Three digit number 250- 330 fps when I was in the q3dm1 by myself for example, it was like **as if I was really there physically and there was absolute zero frame drop. It would by my dream say ..to have that kind of framerates when I play with the 22 bots in single player.

 

[TAsunder]

Higher average fps means lower minimum fps... With a p2/300 and v3 3k in q3 I found the gameplay to be very smooth almost all the time... almost. When on some levels or surrounded by traffic, the system drops down noticeably and it becomes sluggish and not as enjoyable to play.

The other consideration is that 100fps now might mean 40fps in some future game, and 60fps now might mean 15 fps in some future game.

 

[Fingers]

you can't get a card that is consistant. cards will run as fast as they can, when you turn on all the little extra's they slow down. I think everybody will agree with this. the key to getting a card that is right for you is that it should be able to display the image at the quality you want so fast that you don't see skipping. This is optimal, i'm fine with 15-30 fps, but thats just me. it normally runs at 30-35 when not too much is happening then it slws down to maybe 10 when there is a lot of action, I can tell it is slowing down but i'm not a whining baby so i deal with it. It depends on person to person what video card is right for you, and nobody need one that will do 100 fps @ 1600-1200 unless the only reason for this is so you won't have to upgrade when whatever you play becomes more demanding. I htink this is something everyone here can agree with.

just my 2 cents