Why do you give a crap how much memory your web browser is using?

notfred

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Is it using enough memory that your hard disk is thrashing when you try to scroll a browser window? If not, what difference does it make? Wy did you buy so much ram if you don't want any software to use it? Do you actually use your PC to do anything, or do you just compare memory usage of different programs in the task manager?

If it's using less memory than you have free, what's the problem?
 

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Originally posted by: notfred
Is it using enough memory that your hard disk is thrashing when you try to scroll a browser window? If not, what difference does it make? Wy did you buy so much ram if you don't want any software to use it? Do you actually use your PC to do anything, or do you just compare memory usage of different programs in the task manager?

If it's using less memory than you have free, what's the problem?

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yeah man if it works what's the problem, and if it is a problem then don't friggin use it.

btw prepare for a whole buncha "my computer has blah blah blah and I use it for blah blah blah and the .00005 percent improvement in blah blah blah means I can blah blah blah and if you think that 2 megabytes of blah blah blah doesn't affect your blah blah blah then you are a fookin noob and you don't know your blah from your blah."
 

Anubis

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hahahahahahaha right on dude, it annoys me when people complain that winamp uses more memoy the foobar, yes 5 megs is greater then 3 megs, but in perspective its nothing, most systems now have 512 or 1gig of ram

only program i complain about useing ram is photoshop, because ist uses too damn much, even with 1.5 gigs of ram it still will write a 20 GIG temp file to the scratch disk :(
 

Schadenfroh

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some like to play CS and alt tab between their pr0n surfing and the game during time they are dead and very board, many high resolution sites are open and causes more memory to be taking away from STEAM due to memory leaks in web browser
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
some like to play CS and alt tab between their pr0n surfing and the game during time they are dead and very board, many high resolution sites are open and causes more memory to be taking away from STEAM due to memory leaks in web browser

thats just sad :(
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: notfred
Is it using enough memory that your hard disk is thrashing when you try to scroll a browser window? If not, what difference does it make? Wy did you buy so much ram if you don't want any software to use it? Do you actually use your PC to do anything, or do you just compare memory usage of different programs in the task manager?

If it's using less memory than you have free, what's the problem?

I like to keep a browser window open to AT, and FF can use upwards of 100mb. This isn't a big deal with most games, but it can make a difference with (usually newer) games that use a lot of ram, such as Far Cry, or most mmorpgs.

Originally posted by: Anubis
people complain that winamp uses more memoy the foobar, yes 5 megs is greater then 3 megs, but in perspective its nothing, most systems now have 512 or 1gig of ram

5mb vs 3mb is nothing, agreed. However, WinAmp seems to sometimes use a LOT of memory when minimized for some reason. I've seen it sucking up upwards of 200mb in the task manager. That's not negligible.

I have a gb of ram, btw.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: notfred
Is it using enough memory that your hard disk is thrashing when you try to scroll a browser window? If not, what difference does it make? Wy did you buy so much ram if you don't want any software to use it? Do you actually use your PC to do anything, or do you just compare memory usage of different programs in the task manager?

If it's using less memory than you have free, what's the problem?

I like to keep a browser window open to AT, and FF can use upwards of 100mb. This isn't a big deal with most games, but it can make a difference with (usually newer) games that use a lot of ram, such as Far Cry, or most mmorpgs.

Originally posted by: Anubis
people complain that winamp uses more memoy the foobar, yes 5 megs is greater then 3 megs, but in perspective its nothing, most systems now have 512 or 1gig of ram

5mb vs 3mb is nothing, agreed. However, WinAmp seems to sometimes use a LOT of memory when minimized for some reason. I've seen it sucking up upwards of 200mb in the task manager. That's not negligible.

I have a gb of ram, btw.

something is messed up with your winamp, im running 5.05, modern skin, i have 4000 songs in the playlist and i can be running visuliations and it wont go over 25 megs, i use opera, you can lock it to use a set amout of memory, i set mine to 25 +/-5 and even with 20 tabs open it wont use more then 30 megs
 

Gurck

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Yeah, it's not commonplace, seems to happen if you have it minimized for long periods of time. Still though, it can happen - and adds up with browser window, file manager window, various TSRs and services... I should get Fraps and compare freshly booted fps with stuff open vs. stuff closed. I know that if I haven't rebooted in a while I can boost framerates by shutting windows, especially winamp and FF. Rig in sig if interested, "Coffee Magnet".
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Anubis
and i just checked this i full screened winamp visualtions and it hovered ~ 20 megs

Not talking about that, I don't use visualizations - or for that matter, any of winamp's video capabilities - I use Creative's media player, works with my remote control :p - I'm talking about if you have winamp minimized for a day or two (or more). I think I have 5.04, btw.
 

Mem

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Same here,I`m far more concerned about features I need, plus stability & security,probably why I use Mozilla 1.7.3 a lot ;).


:)
 

ElFenix

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i like how winamp makes itself into a tiny bar docked at the top of my screen.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Anubis
and i just checked this i full screened winamp visualtions and it hovered ~ 20 megs

Not talking about that, I don't use visualizations - or for that matter, any of winamp's video capabilities - I use Creative's media player, works with my remote control :p - I'm talking about if you have winamp minimized for a day or two (or more). I think I have 5.04, btw.

it has been open and in min mode for 6 days, thats when i last restarted, it starts with windows, right now just sitting there not doing anything its useing 3.7 megs, its always on top where it is in this pic, honestly ive never seen it above 30 megs EVER ive been useing winamp since 1.x
 

Allio

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I completely agree. The point of having a whole bunch of memory is for programs to USE it, not for it to sit there looking pretty. However, I am a little concerned when Firefox starts using around half of my total physical memory. It just seems excessive. Then again, I get the memory back when I minimise, so there's no huge loss...
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: notfred
Is it using enough memory that your hard disk is thrashing when you try to scroll a browser window? If not, what difference does it make? Wy did you buy so much ram if you don't want any software to use it? Do you actually use your PC to do anything, or do you just compare memory usage of different programs in the task manager?

If it's using less memory than you have free, what's the problem?

LOL. Very good point.

Which is why I find it both funny and slightly ironic when people new to Firefox complain about the fact that it's currently using 400MB of RAM. Well, duh. If it's the active application, and you have 512MB or 1GB, and it's not thrashing - why do you care?

The ironic part is that these people are complaining about nothing, when I've been using Moz since 0.9, and tend to browse "persistantly", and have reached points where it was thrashing for several days, and literally took 2-3 *minutes* to close a tab or a window. Yes, those were the bad old days of Mozilla. You'all Firefox 1.0 n00bs shouldn't even be complaining about such a non-issue, as an application actually using your RAM - well, that's what it's there for. When it starts to mis-use it, that's when it becomes a problem.

Current recent FF builds have been exceptional in that regard, I can't get them above 600MB VM allocation, no matter how long I browse for. (Uptimes of 9+ days on 1.0PR/RC builds here.)
 

gflores

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If Winamp was using 90mb of memory, I'd still complain, even if I still had free memory. It's obvious that Firefox has memory leaks which should be fixed. However, I don't think it's an issue worth changing browsers over.