Why do you believe in God?

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Kadarin

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Originally posted by: EmperorOfIceCream
Why do I believe in God? I can't answer that question - and if I could, my faith would be weakened. I have no explanation, no reason, no justification. I have faith. I believe in God because I believe in God.

I could tell you how my faith has helped throughout my life, I could tell you about how its given my life a sense of purpose, a sense of meaning - but all that would do nothing to explain why I believe in God. All those things are what might or might not be a result of my faith. I do not claim to know how my own mind works, and I do not claim to know how or if God has intervened in my life, or anyones for that matter. All I can say is I believe in God.

That's a good answer. You believe in God because you choose to believe in God. I have no problem with that.
 

EmperorOfIceCream

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: EmperorOfIceCream
Why do I believe in God? I can't answer that question - and if I could, my faith would be weakened. I have no explanation, no reason, no justification. I have faith. I believe in God because I believe in God.

I could tell you how my faith has helped throughout my life, I could tell you about how its given my life a sense of purpose, a sense of meaning - but all that would do nothing to explain why I believe in God. All those things are what might or might not be a result of my faith. I do not claim to know how my own mind works, and I do not claim to know how or if God has intervened in my life, or anyones for that matter. All I can say is I believe in God.

That's a good answer. You believe in God because you choose to believe in God. I have no problem with that.
Astaroth - I'm glad you appreciated my answer, I had you in mind when I wrote it.

I specifically did not say that my faith is a choice, because I don't know whether or not it actually is a choice. I don't know why I believe in God. I don't know if my belief is actually a choice. At specific times it might be a choice and I might be able to flip my beliefs, but usually it is a choice the way my sense of touch is a choice, the way my beating heart is a choice, the way my dreams are a choice - my belief in God is just an expression of my existence.
 

Jeff7181

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First of all, wrong forum... second, I don't believe in "God" because I find the idea of a magical being in the sky a little bit silly. However, I do believe in a higher power... possibly a life-form we have no clue exists. But I don't believe in a "God" by traditional definition.
It also bothers me to credit God for something we don't know the answer to or understand... like the beginning of the universe, the first life here on Earth, etc. I'd rather just say "I don't know yet."
 

BlackJesus03

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Originally posted by: GoodDad
this is my one post in this thread


I believe in God. I know he is real because there is no way I could have made it through the situations I have been in without his help. He has helped me along when I have failed.

God is real. If you believe you dont need proof. If you dont believe...then I will pray tonite that you find the way.

Give yourself some credit. Are you so afraid to recognize inner strength that you must attribute it to a nameless diety? Don't detract from self success- there are too many others willing to do that for you.

Anyway, I believe there is no God, and if he doesn't like it, he knows where i live.;)
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
First of all, wrong forum... second, I don't believe in "God" because I find the idea of a magical being in the sky a little bit silly. However, I do believe in a higher power... possibly a life-form we have no clue exists. But I don't believe in a "God" by traditional definition.
It also bothers me to credit God for something we don't know the answer to or understand... like the beginning of the universe, the first life here on Earth, etc. I'd rather just say "I don't know yet."



What forum would this go in if not here? :confused:
 

cquark

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Big bang? great, so what made that ball? I don't think science can ever properly identify the beginning of time, and so that is a shortcoming of it.

The Big Bang wasn't the emergence of energy/matter within a pre-existenting spacetime. The Big Bang is the origin of spacetime itself--remember that we discovered it because of the expansion of space, after all. There is no "before" the Big Bang, because there was no time "before" it. It's difficult to talk about in English, but the mathematics works out nicely.
 

BlackJesus03

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Who wouldn't believe in an invisible man that lives in the sky?!
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he's not invisible. we just can't see him.

5 entries found for invisible.
in·vis·i·ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-vz-bl)
adj.
Impossible to see; not visible: Air is invisible.
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Same thing.:beer:
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: lirion
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
First of all, wrong forum... second, I don't believe in "God" because I find the idea of a magical being in the sky a little bit silly. However, I do believe in a higher power... possibly a life-form we have no clue exists. But I don't believe in a "God" by traditional definition.
It also bothers me to credit God for something we don't know the answer to or understand... like the beginning of the universe, the first life here on Earth, etc. I'd rather just say "I don't know yet."



What forum would this go in if not here? :confused:

Guess I should've explained that more, lol... what I meant was lots of flaming goes on here, so it's not the best forum for a religion thread :)

*EDIT* Unless you want the chef's garbage and like your steak well done
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cquark

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One is that it's statistically impossible for the universe to exist be accident.

I just dropped a penny out of my hand. It fell to the floor. Was it an accident (i.e., a random process) or did some deity control the fall? Neither, of course, is the case. It will happen every time I drop a penny on Earth, but all that means is that there's a gravitational attraction between the penny and the Earth, not that supernatural, intelligent intervention occurred.

The universe is no more an accident than the penny falling to the floor. The dichotomy between randomness and intelligent design is completely false. There are plenty of other alternatives. Where do people get this idea that origin events are random? It's not any scientific text I've ever read, even the poor excuses for textbooks I used in high school.

 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: cquark
One is that it's statistically impossible for the universe to exist be accident.

I just dropped a penny out of my hand. It fell to the floor. Was it an accident (i.e., a random process) or did some deity control the fall? Neither, of course, is the case. It will happen every time I drop a penny on Earth, but all that means is that there's a gravitational attraction between the penny and the Earth, not that supernatural, intelligent intervention occurred.

The universe is no more an accident than the penny falling to the floor. The dichotomy between randomness and intelligent design is completely false. There are plenty of other alternatives. Where do people get this idea that origin events are random? It's not any scientific text I've ever read, even the poor excuses for textbooks I used in high school.

I'm not certain what you mean by a false dichotomy between randomness and intelligent design (determinism vs. nondeterminism I guess?), but the idea of a fundamental probability affecting a causal universe is not that absurd. Consider QED.
 

KIAman

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Because of existence. Something from nothing doesn't make sense to me (even considering something from nothing if there is an anti-something).