Why do we go to jail for taking an illegal drug?

[Edgewardb]

I was searching on another forum and I found this interesting question. I mean look at the rate of these people going to jail for it. Jails are getting full and people might start to use Death penalty for low rate crimes.

You don't help drug users by punishing them. You need to do the same thing with them as you do with Alcoholics. It's the same damn fucking problem. They need help.

 

[GenHoth]

Because it's against the law?

 

[Beev]

Does the word "illegal" have any application here?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I don't see the point of it either. There are far bigger fish to fry.

 

[Edgewardb]

And how is Jail helping them? They need different kind of methods....

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
I was searching on another forum and I found this interesting question. I mean look at the rate of these people going to jail for it. Jails are getting full and people might start to use Death penalty for low rate crimes.

You don't help drug users by punishing them. You need to do the same thing with them as you do with Alcoholics. It's the same damn fucking problem. They need help.

WTH, death penalty for low rate crimes? What do you even mean? Sounds like your post was drug induced.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
And how is Jail helping them? They need different kind of methods....

Jail isn't about helping them. It isn't intended to help anybody. It is intended to (1) scare people away from breaking the law and (2) take those who break the laws off the street so that they don't harm innocents for a bit.

 

[Edgewardb]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
I was searching on another forum and I found this interesting question. I mean look at the rate of these people going to jail for it. Jails are getting full and people might start to use Death penalty for low rate crimes.

You don't help drug users by punishing them. You need to do the same thing with them as you do with Alcoholics. It's the same damn fucking problem. They need help.

WTH, death penalty for low rate crimes? What do you even mean? Sounds like your post was drug induced.

look at this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/4221949

He got the Death Penalty for helping a murderer

 

[Edgewardb]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
And how is Jail helping them? They need different kind of methods....

Jail isn't about helping them. It isn't intended to help anybody. It is intended to (1) scare people away from breaking the law and (2) take those who break the laws off the street so that they don't harm innocents for a bit.

No one should go to jail for taking ANY kind of drug. It's been proven over and over again that it doesn't help. What you do is you take this harmless drug user that kept to himself, put him in an environment with robbers, murders, etc. And he ends up learning tricks to steal, to kill, etc. You then end up producing more robbers and killers.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
I was searching on another forum and I found this interesting question. I mean look at the rate of these people going to jail for it. Jails are getting full and people might start to use Death penalty for low rate crimes.

You don't help drug users by punishing them. You need to do the same thing with them as you do with Alcoholics. It's the same damn fucking problem. They need help.

WTH, death penalty for low rate crimes? What do you even mean? Sounds like your post was drug induced.

look at this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/4221949

He got the Death Penalty for helping a murderer

Accomplice to murder is not low-rate. When people start getting the chair for traffic tickets I'll start to worry.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
And how is Jail helping them? They need different kind of methods....

Jail isn't about helping them. It isn't intended to help anybody. It is intended to (1) scare people away from breaking the law and (2) take those who break the laws off the street so that they don't harm innocents for a bit.

No one should go to jail for taking ANY kind of drug. It's been proven over and over again that it doesn't help. What you do is you take this harmless drug user that kept to himself, put him in an environment with robbers, murders, etc. And he ends up learning tricks to steal, to kill, etc. You then end up producing more robbers and killers.

I'm still trying to figure out if you are trolling (64 posts) or if you really are that oblivious.

 

[clamum]

Well they're illegal because the government cares about it's citizens, and drugs are bad for you, so they're illegal. Don't question it.

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
I was searching on another forum and I found this interesting question. I mean look at the rate of these people going to jail for it. Jails are getting full and people might start to use Death penalty for low rate crimes.

You don't help drug users by punishing them. You need to do the same thing with them as you do with Alcoholics. It's the same damn fucking problem. They need help.

WTH, death penalty for low rate crimes? What do you even mean? Sounds like your post was drug induced.

look at this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/4221949

He got the Death Penalty for helping a murderer

Accomplice to murder is not low-rate. When people start getting the chair for traffic tickets I'll start to worry.

Not exactly an accomplice if he didn't know the guy was going to kill someone.

 

[Edgewardb]

Originally posted by: clamum
Well they're illegal because the government cares about it's citizens, and drugs are bad for you, so they're illegal. Don't question it.

And putting them in Jail is going to cure the person of that addiction?

EDIT: The Government cares about its citizen!!! I am assumption you are talking about the U.S?

 

[FoBoT]

:laugh:

 

[Modelworks]

I can't find a link , but one of the head guys that was responsible for the government making some drugs illegal was asked a few years back about the decision and he said it was a mistake, that if he knew that what he knew now that he never would have agreed to making them illegal.

That is was just like prohibition and that it solved nothing.


If it were me I would make them legal , just like alcohol, which kills far more people.
Take the profit out and the crimes associated with it goes away.

Instead make people responsible for there actions.
If you use drugs and do something illegal, punish them for that, not the act of using the drug.


Can't do this now though, can't pardon everyone already in jail for drugs .

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Edgewardb
And how is Jail helping them? They need different kind of methods....

Jail isn't about helping them. It isn't intended to help anybody. It is intended to (1) scare people away from breaking the law and (2) take those who break the laws off the street so that they don't harm innocents for a bit.

No one should go to jail for taking ANY kind of drug. It's been proven over and over again that it doesn't help. What you do is you take this harmless drug user that kept to himself, put him in an environment with robbers, murders, etc. And he ends up learning tricks to steal, to kill, etc. You then end up producing more robbers and killers.

Are you speaking from experience, or just making this stuff up? If going to jail is not a deterrant, then I'm not sure what is.

 

[Syrch]

drug users should get rehab, drug dealers should get jail.

 

[Edgewardb]

Originally posted by: Syrch
drug users should get rehab, drug dealers should get jail.

Thats my point.

 

[TheUnk]

If my child was found with drugs, I'd want them thrown in jail for a few nights. Young enough, that can be a terrifying experience and would certainly lessen the chances of them doing it again. I know it helped my brother..

But yeah for adults, I dunno if it's gonna help much.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: clamum
Well they're illegal because the government cares about it's citizens, and drugs are bad for you, so they're illegal. Don't question it.

And putting them in Jail is going to cure the person of that addiction?

EDIT: The Government cares about its citizen!!! I am assumption you are talking about the U.S?

Hahaha... yeah, the U.S.

My post was sarcastic, I think the War on Drugs is asinine.

 

[Vic]

Noted author and progressive Peter MacWilliams called it the effect of "clergymen with billy clubs."
Essentially, what is happening is that most people will use and focus on the problems of other people in order to distract themselves (be in denial of) the problems in their own lives. And those who would put themselves in power and authority use this tendency of people in order to manipulate them.
This applies in so many areas, beyond the drug prohibition, that it is almost silly. The rich trust fund brat agonizing over the fate of the poor, the wine drinker telling "potheads" that they shouldn't do the crime if they can't do the time, the adulterous churchgoer, etc etc etc.
When you think about all the woes in society, it really is almost tragically comic that the cause of most of it really goes back to the attitude and actions of the judgemental gossipy old biddy who thinks her ways are best, every other way of life should not be allowed, and who secretly hates everyone else's children with a passion.

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: Syrch
drug users should get rehab, drug dealers should get jail.

Thats my point.

Then you should have posted that instead of asking why we go to jail for doing something illegal :thumbsup:

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Syrch
drug users should get rehab

That's all fine as long as I'm not the one paying for rehab. Druggies are gonna have to take it out of their own pocket, even if it means selling drugs to get it.

 

[Edgewardb]

Originally posted by: GenHoth

Originally posted by: Edgewardb

Originally posted by: Syrch
drug users should get rehab, drug dealers should get jail.

Thats my point.

Then you should have posted that instead of asking why we go to jail for doing something illegal :thumbsup:

I was trying to make a point..