Why do we congratulate people for having children?

[The Sauce]

I work in an ER and I see it all. But one thing in particular has always struck me as hypocritical. When a 14 year old, or drug addict, or pregnant mother of the 12th time comes in pregnant, everyone rolls their eyes and says "what's happening to our society," or "we'll be paying for that baby with our taxes." Yet, when that same persone comes back in toting a newborn everyone goes "Ohh...congratulations, she/he's adorable." Almost like they are compelled to be happy for someone giving birth. So?

Why do people feel compelled to congratulate each other for giving birth? Its disgusting. Do we really need more degenerates raising babies in our society? Even non-degenerates. Aren't there enough people in the world already eating, killing animals and each other, polluting, destroying the planet, doing drugs, worshipping Ala, Christ, Yahweh or whatever other assonine things stupid people do? When I see someone with a new baby my first thought isn't to congratulate them. My first thought is why would you do that? Why would you be happy about bringing another child into this fvucked up, overpopulated world to indoctrinate with your idiotic beliefs and screw things up more? Sure I think babies are cute, thats hardwired...can't help it. Doesn't mean there's anything good about popping them out continuously and patting each other on the back for doing it.

And yes, it just so happens that it is the poorest, unemployed, lowest intelligence people in the community that are having the most babies - essentially those least capable of raising and supporting them. That is well documented fact. And I pay 39% federal tax to help them do it. Those babies will not be productive members of society and will not be contributing to welfare when it's my time to retire. They'll be sucking it dry on SSI/disability with 10 kids each. That is all.

 

[daveshel]

The word is corollary.

 

[theeedude]

Because, unlike welfare checks, congratulations are free. If something is free, and makes the other person feel a little better, it's a net positive, so why not do it?

 

[The Sauce]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Because, unlike welfare checks, congratulations are free. If something is free, and makes the other person feel a little better, it's a net positive, so why not do it?

Because it rewards a negative behavior.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: senseamp
Because, unlike welfare checks, congratulations are free. If something is free, and makes the other person feel a little better, it's a net positive, so why not do it?

Because it rewards a negative behavior.

So, how should they react when a healthy baby boy/girl is born? Shun and abuse it b/c it reminds them of their plight?

Never heard of children from these homes or former gang members that made it out of the ghetto to become productive members of society?

 

[mundane]

My thinking on the matter has changed since I married into a large family - one grandmother had nine kids, another seven. All grew up to be productive members of society, some *extremely* financially successful, and none having to rely on your taxes.

 

[meltdown75]

You'd think working in that environment would make one more empathic as opposed to cold-hearted.

Why do people feel compelled to congratulate each other for giving birth? Its disgusting. Do we really need more degenerates raising babies in our society? Even non-degenerates. Aren't there enough people in the world already eating, killing animals and each other, polluting, destroying the planet, doing drugs, worshipping Ala, Christ, Yahweh or whatever other assonine things stupid people do? When I see someone with a new baby my first thought isn't to congratulate them. My first thought is why would you do that? Why would you be happy about bringing another child into this fvucked up, overpopulated world to indoctrinate with your idiotic beliefs and screw things up more? Sure I think babies are cute, thats hardwired...can't help it. Doesn't mean there's anything good about popping them out continuously and patting each other on the back for doing it.

I bet people congratulated your parents when you were brought into this world. Perhaps if they knew you'd one day be spewing the foul bullshit above, they would think twice.

 

[clamum]

No doubt man. When a woman gives birth we should say "fuck you" instead.

 

[yours truly]

Snatchface you have issues..

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
You'd think working in that environment would make one more empathic as opposed to cold-hearted.

Why do people feel compelled to congratulate each other for giving birth? Its disgusting. Do we really need more degenerates raising babies in our society? Even non-degenerates. Aren't there enough people in the world already eating, killing animals and each other, polluting, destroying the planet, doing drugs, worshipping Ala, Christ, Yahweh or whatever other assonine things stupid people do? When I see someone with a new baby my first thought isn't to congratulate them. My first thought is why would you do that? Why would you be happy about bringing another child into this fvucked up, overpopulated world to indoctrinate with your idiotic beliefs and screw things up more? Sure I think babies are cute, thats hardwired...can't help it. Doesn't mean there's anything good about popping them out continuously and patting each other on the back for doing it.

I bet people congratulated your parents when you were brought into this world. Perhaps if they knew you'd one day be spewing the foul bullshit above, they would think twice.

DING!

 

[BrokenVisage]

Same reason couples are guilted into having kids. OMG REPRODUCTION FTW!

 

[judasmachine]

Because they get mad when you say, "STOP BREEDING!"

Dry humping, most of the fun, and none of the guilt!

 

[Nightfall]

Its called the dumbing down of society. Idiocracy is coming true.

Since my wife and I aren't having kids, we are just part of the problem.

 

[Xavier434]

0/10

Your complaint is very weak. Choose your battles more wisely.


I don't believe that congratulating them on having a child is having a negative impact on the problems you are suggesting. Nor do I believe that stopping this custom or even scolding people for having kids who are in those kinds of situations in life at the time of child birth or soon after will help with the problem. Not to mention that the odds of the kid's life being a good one are slim in those scenarios, but there are cases where it turns out ok because the parents work hard at improving themselves. Most parents who ended up being successful at doing that got lot of support including motivation. I see congratulating and complimenting the mother and baby as first steps towards that kind of support. Let's face it. At the point when the kid is born, one can only hope for the best and try to support the parents if they want to make a difference.

 

[nakedfrog]

Well, they successfully made it through the pregnancy and through the birth without dying. I know you obviously think that's nothing to be congratulated for, but we aren't all callous, jaded pessimists with a streak of misanthropy added for good measure.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

I tell people "Congratulations, I am glad it's not me though."

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Well, they successfully made it through the pregnancy and through the birth without dying. I know you obviously think that's nothing to be congratulated for, but we aren't all callous, jaded pessimists with a streak of misanthropy added for good measure.

you make me wanna hump my monitor.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
I work in an ER and I see it all. But one thing in particular has always struck me as hypocritical. When a 14 year old, or drug addict, or pregnant mother of the 12th time comes in pregnant, everyone rolls their eyes and says "what's happening to our society," or "we'll be paying for that baby with our taxes." Yet, when that same persone comes back in toting a newborn everyone goes "Ohh...congratulations, she/he's adorable." Almost like they are compelled to be happy for someone giving birth. So?

Why do people feel compelled to congratulate each other for giving birth? Its disgusting. Do we really need more degenerates raising babies in our society? Even non-degenerates. Aren't there enough people in the world already eating, killing animals and each other, polluting, destroying the planet, doing drugs, worshipping Ala, Christ, Yahweh or whatever other assonine things stupid people do? When I see someone with a new baby my first thought isn't to congratulate them. My first thought is why would you do that? Why would you be happy about bringing another child into this fvucked up, overpopulated world to indoctrinate with your idiotic beliefs and screw things up more? Sure I think babies are cute, thats hardwired...can't help it. Doesn't mean there's anything good about popping them out continuously and patting each other on the back for doing it.

And yes, it just so happens that it is the poorest, unemployed, lowest intelligence people in the community that are having the most babies - essentially those least capable of raising and supporting them. That is well documented fact. And I pay 39% federal tax to help them do it. Those babies will not be productive members of society and will not be contributing to welfare when it's my time to retire. They'll be sucking it dry on SSI/disability with 10 kids each. That is all.

Snatchface you bring up one of the best points ever that I have always wondered myself. The population is growing out of control and we wonder why China limits 1 child to a family. I know China is a lot smaller but soon we will have the same issues if the population growth continues like this unchecked.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: pcslookout


Snatchface you bring up one of the best points ever that I have always wondered myself. The population is growing out of control and we wonder why China limits 1 child to a family. I know China is a lot smaller but soon we will have the same issues if the population growth continues like this unchecked.

No

 

[rh71]

Pregnancy and childbirth is not something to make light of. It is not a given. I thought you'd know this being in an ER. The congrats is for a wanted & successful birth, imo.

 

[Vehemence]

Darn you for giving birth, women! Darn you to heck!

 

[ja1484]

I usually don't. My sister recently had a child out of wedlock. She's now a single mother, poorly employed, with another mouth to feed and knew this going in.

I told her it was a bad decision then, and I haven't said congratulations yet. I will say congratulations if she manages to raise the child into a productive member of society and get her life on the right track. Until then...

Originally posted by: meltdown75
You'd think working in that environment would make one more empathic as opposed to cold-hearted.

You'd think wrong.

 

[tw1164]

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: Snatchface
I work in an ER and I see it all. But one thing in particular has always struck me as hypocritical. When a 14 year old, or drug addict, or pregnant mother of the 12th time comes in pregnant, everyone rolls their eyes and says "what's happening to our society," or "we'll be paying for that baby with our taxes." Yet, when that same persone comes back in toting a newborn everyone goes "Ohh...congratulations, she/he's adorable." Almost like they are compelled to be happy for someone giving birth. So?

Why do people feel compelled to congratulate each other for giving birth? Its disgusting. Do we really need more degenerates raising babies in our society? Even non-degenerates. Aren't there enough people in the world already eating, killing animals and each other, polluting, destroying the planet, doing drugs, worshipping Ala, Christ, Yahweh or whatever other assonine things stupid people do? When I see someone with a new baby my first thought isn't to congratulate them. My first thought is why would you do that? Why would you be happy about bringing another child into this fvucked up, overpopulated world to indoctrinate with your idiotic beliefs and screw things up more? Sure I think babies are cute, thats hardwired...can't help it. Doesn't mean there's anything good about popping them out continuously and patting each other on the back for doing it.

And yes, it just so happens that it is the poorest, unemployed, lowest intelligence people in the community that are having the most babies - essentially those least capable of raising and supporting them. That is well documented fact. And I pay 39% federal tax to help them do it. Those babies will not be productive members of society and will not be contributing to welfare when it's my time to retire. They'll be sucking it dry on SSI/disability with 10 kids each. That is all.

Snatchface you bring up one of the best points ever that I have always wondered myself. The population is growing out of control and we wonder why China limits 1 child to a family. I know China is a lot smaller but soon we will have the same issues if the population growth continues like this unchecked.

You should google this shit before you post about it.

 

[Ricochet]

Propogation of the specie. We congratulate those that continue this trend. Of course it's also out of politeness.

In the "Future Problem" thread someone linked to actual statistics that disproved the poorest, lowest intelligent people outproduce other members of society. Of course in your line of work anecdotal evidences point to the contrary.

The U.S. and Canada do not have a problem with overpopulation. The problem is that people tend to clump themselves in certain areas. There are vast sparsely populated land stretched out beyond the eyes can see.

You can bet that the majority of the tax you pay do not go to support these people. Majority of our tax money goes to support an overbloated inefficient government and support an unpopular war. If a girl has a baby out of wedlock, the state will try its darndest to find the father to foot the bill (regardless whether it got the right guy or not).

There is definitely a problem with welfare. There is definitely a problem with the amount of tax we pay. Your outrage is misdirected, however. It should be directed to our elected officials.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: ja1484
I usually don't. My sister recently had a child out of wedlock. She's now a single mother, poorly employed, with another mouth to feed and knew this going in.

I told her it was a bad decision then, and I haven't said congratulations yet. I will say congratulations if she manages to raise the child into a productive member of society and get her life on the right track. Until then...

Originally posted by: meltdown75
You'd think working in that environment would make one more empathic as opposed to cold-hearted.

You'd think wrong.

fine then it turns everyone into a raving wise and beautiful woman. no skin off my back.