Why do we allow so few to hoard to much wealth?

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Enjoy the last gasps of serfdom, the pitchforks are coming out sooner or later. If you are not going to redistribute wealth from the elites in a society democratically that are stolen from the working classes we all know how this goes. Mass media is the only thing left propping up the old society anymore. Old folks who suck that stuff up from being raised in front of a tv in the 50s-60s-70-80s are dying more and more daily.

The next century will be ours.
Bring out your pitchforks, all 7 of you. You'll be run over by people in Escalades trying to protect their monthly food stamp ration before you go the first mile.
 

coreyb

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do you realize how much money super rich people give to charity? Bill Gates has given over 50 billion or so if I remember correctly.
 

Steeplerot

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do you realize how much money super rich people give to charity? Bill Gates has given over 50 billion or so if I remember correctly.

They usually do it for tax breaks to have even more money to hoard, not some altruistic giving. There are always a few exceptions that will be used to bash you over the head with but the actual numbers of how the wealth is currently accumulated in reality gives a much more telling picture then the exceptions.
 
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They usually do it for tax breaks to have even more money to hoard, not some altruistic giving. There are always a few exceptions that will be used to bash you over the head with but the actual numbers of how the wealth is currently accumulated in reality gives a much more telling picture then the exceptions.
lol. It's just one stereotype after another from steepler...erm, TheRedUnderURBed.
 

Steeplerot

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How is it a stereotype? The fact is the wealth has been redistributed to the top. Simple as that, if the rich were giving folks instead of neurotic hoarders there would not be world hunger and poverty. The example given of Bill Gates is a fluke, but then this is what capitalism depends on, a few fluke examples to beat you over the head with into submission.

Follow the carrot, ignoring the fact that you are still this whole time in effect a wage slave. Suckers.
 
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Baasha

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This thread is amusing.

The fact of the matter is no one group or section of society can be lampooned with those who are truly hoarding and not benefiting society at large.

There are many in the top 1% of the income bracket who are self-made entrepreneurs and businessmen who have made it big with tremendous hard work, intelligence, and a whole lot of luck. Then there are those who are inbred swine who happen to be luckily born to an already mega-wealthy dynasty/family who don't have to lift a little finger to subsist.

Not all the multi-millionaires and billionaires are "evil hoarders" as some would have you believe. And, not all poor people are "lazy bums" as some others would have you believe as well. There is more to life than monetary worth.

The ultimate solution to this conundrum is differentiating between earned and un-earned income and taxing the hell out of the latter. It is a travesty that shit-stains who inherit millions/billions from their family circumvent the system and end up paying capital gains tax of 15% for their "investments" while hard-working and industrious entrepreneurs are taxed at income tax rates that are somewhat unjust (48% for example (state & federal) in good 'ol California). Un-earned income, that is, all "income" that is from an inheritance or source(s) that are not from the individual's OWN business (that he has started), should be taxed to the hilt - 90%. Those who do start businesses and take on tremendous risks to make it big should be given tax breaks and the full support of the system; these people have "earned" their income.

Grouping the hardworking entrepreneur with someone who inherits money is just downright silly.
 

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Why do we let so many on the bottom suck so much wealth?

Hmm, where? The reality sure seems to show them having less. Whereas it is obvious who keeps hoarding more.

You guys are so ate up with bullshit you doubt your own eyes to continue your charade of faith-based economics.
 

sportage

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Tell that to this kid

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This is what you elderly parents will look like after their life line has been ended. FACT!
 

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Those who do start businesses and take on tremendous risks to make it big

What risk? The risk is to the workers livelihoods, not the CEO type who gets a golden parachute in real life to go on to be a lobbyist.

Once again more fairy stories with a few isolated incidents to beat you over the head with to work harder to enrich someone else who has more money then you thus inherently more capable of spending your own money then you are through excess profits on your labor.

Capitalism is a wealth redistribution scam to the top is all. Same as the rest of the history of the human race when it comes to master/slave relationships.
 
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dali71

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Enjoy the last gasps of serfdom, the pitchforks are coming out sooner or later. If you are not going to redistribute wealth from the elites in a society democratically that are stolen from the working classes we all know how this goes. Mass media is the only thing left propping up the old society anymore. Old folks who suck that stuff up from being raised in front of a tv in the 50s-60s-70-80s are dying more and more daily.

The next century will be ours.

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Steeplerot

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It was me being mostly bombastic back at their trollish behavior yes, but it is truth still.
 

boomerang

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It was me being mostly bombastic back at their trollish behavior yes, but it is truth still.
If you had a hair on your ass you'd do it right now. Take up arms against your oppressors. Rally the downtrodden from off the couch and behind the TV watching American Idol and take back what is rightfully yours!

Storm the mansions of the rich. Flood the lobbies of the mega-corps and take control. Throw the CEO's off the roof and make their lair your new castle. Redistribute that wealth. Give everyone in the world the $1.78 they've got coming. Restore fairness to the world!

Then, before the dust settles, come up with a plan for that minute and every minute forward. Feed the masses, cure the sick, abolish religion (except Islam of course) heal our planet and populate other planets. Open our borders, give everyone a free education, give everyone a home, a green car and a job. Give everyone that doesn't want to work a job. Make our food safer to eat, increase our crop yields while making our food healthier. Stop drilling for oil and run our world on sustainable renewable forms of energy. (Do that quickly, BTW.) Ban industries that aren't green and find jobs for those that lost their jobs as a result. Cure cancer, birth defects and institute population control. Stop people you deem too ignorant from breeding. Increase the distribution of food stamps, make every city a sanctuary city. Take away all the guns and make us all love one another. Make all drugs free and plentiful. Take everything from everybody and distribute it all equally. That includes the $1.78 you just doled out because the population has increased while you were doing all the above. Open your home to all the now equal people of the world. Quit locking your doors. Institute central planning. Make it clear just how much you hate intolerance.

If all this and more of the progressive vision is so important to you, quit talking about it and make it happen. Or grow up.

You have so much more than so many. I don't know how you live with yourself. That emaciated child pictured here could do so much if he only had just your computer.... The truth is staring you in the face everyday and yet you continue to consume and continue your evil capitalistic existence.

If only you had a hair on your ass...
 

Macamus Prime

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The point that you should do something with your life to gain wealth means you need to turn into an evil scum sucking fuck who would be OK with harming and hurting his/her fellow human being.

If you have the stomach for such behavior, you will have full pockets.
 

JimW1949

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Storm the mansions of the rich. Flood the lobbies of the mega-corps and take control. Throw the CEO's off the roof and make their lair your new castle.
I suspect that is what will eventually happen. The rich continue to get richer and the middle class is disappearing. Eventually there will be only two classes, the extremely rich and the poor. I tend to think there will be a revolution and a lot of people will die, on both sides. I hope I do not live long enough to see it happen. It will be a sad way for a once great nation to come to an end.
 

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The point that you should do something with your life to gain wealth means you need to turn into an evil scum sucking fuck who would be OK with harming and hurting his/her fellow human being.

If you have the stomach for such behavior, you will have full pockets.

LOL, silly lefties, you can only be rich by being evil. You must really hate Soros......
 

boomerang

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The point that you should do something with your life to gain wealth means you need to turn into an evil scum sucking fuck who would be OK with harming and hurting his/her fellow human being.

If you have the stomach for such behavior, you will have full pockets.
By all means continue to whine about it. Keep thinking the man has got his boot on your neck while those around you are leading very good lives. You are the master of your own destiny. You - no one else. If you feel your lot in life is to piss, moan and complain about what others have got you will have achieved nothing. Learn to get satisfaction from your misery because it is of your doing.

My stepson, a recovered alcoholic, 38 years old with no car and no driver's license, in debt up to his eyeballs, divorced, with child support, currently twists balloons for a living at a local Jeepers. I was ashamed for him but my thoughts changed very recently.

His mother and I stopped by at his work last Saturday afternoon when we were in the area. He had children with their parents lined up for his creations. He took a break and I asked how things were going. He said he's pulling in typically between $140 to $380 a day twisting balloons. He's renting space from Jeepers to the tune of $75 a week. He works the fairs and outdoor markets and such on the weekends in the summer months and he told me he's had $800 days doing that. He NEVER complains. He just picks himself up when he stumbles, reinvents himself and works within the systems that are in place.

He's been a waiter, carpenter, roofer, odd jobber, more different jobs than I can remember. He's picked up cans off the side of the road for money. Every trade he's done work in he's taught himself to do it. No complaints from him. He recognizes his shortcomings, realizes he's going to fall on his face from time to time, gets back up and gets back in the game. No whining about the man having his boot on his neck.

The opportunities are still boundless in this country of ours. The biggest obstacle we all need to overcome is ourselves. Those that do can thrive in varying degrees. Once you realize what's holding you back is not the system but yourself, you will find peace with the lot you hold in life.

You want to help your fellow human beings? Well you can and in a big way. Work within the system that exists and your possibilities are endless if you just learn to throw off the constraints you put on yourself. Make it big and help whomever you wish.

In the meantime quit whining because I'm not doing what you could be doing.
 

werepossum

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There will always be a large component of Americans who will fight to the death for other people to be far wealthier than they are. They will never get the joke, and they will never realize that they aren't part of the club.

You can't fix their delusion, because they will always think that they are just about to be someone rich and important... and they will die believing that is just around the corner. In this way the American Dream is truly a nightmare, because it makes people act against their own best interest.
That's just . . . Breathtaking. You truly believe that the only reason to "allow" someone to be wealthy is because you expect to become wealthy too and thus want to protect your future privileges? Do you have NO moral principles beyond your own self-interest?

Surely you are better than that. Think about it. Please.
 

werepossum

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By all means continue to whine about it. Keep thinking the man has got his boot on your neck while those around you are leading very good lives. You are the master of your own destiny. You - no one else. If you feel your lot in life is to piss, moan and complain about what others have got you will have achieved nothing. Learn to get satisfaction from your misery because it is of your doing.

My stepson, a recovered alcoholic, 38 years old with no car and no driver's license, in debt up to his eyeballs, divorced, with child support, currently twists balloons for a living at a local Jeepers. I was ashamed for him but my thoughts changed very recently.

His mother and I stopped by at his work last Saturday afternoon when we were in the area. He had children with their parents lined up for his creations. He took a break and I asked how things were going. He said he's pulling in typically between $140 to $380 a day twisting balloons. He's renting space from Jeepers to the tune of $75 a week. He works the fairs and outdoor markets and such on the weekends in the summer months and he told me he's had $800 days doing that. He NEVER complains. He just picks himself up when he stumbles, reinvents himself and works within the systems that are in place.

He's been a waiter, carpenter, roofer, odd jobber, more different jobs than I can remember. He's picked up cans off the side of the road for money. Every trade he's done work in he's taught himself to do it. No complaints from him. He recognizes his shortcomings, realizes he's going to fall on his face from time to time, gets back up and gets back in the game. No whining about the man having his boot on his neck.

The opportunities are still boundless in this country of ours. The biggest obstacle we all need to overcome is ourselves. Those that do can thrive in varying degrees. Once you realize what's holding you back is not the system but yourself, you will find peace with the lot you hold in life.

You want to help your fellow human beings? Well you can and in a big way. Work within the system that exists and your possibilities are endless if you just learn to throw off the constraints you put on yourself. Make it big and help whomever you wish.

In the meantime quit whining because I'm not doing what you could be doing.
Excellent and inspirational story, thanks! Just goes to show that hard work still pays off and that one makes one's own second chances.
 
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it absolutely shocks me how poor people continue to prop up the rich and defend them, just for the simple hope that maybe someday they too will be rich.

most of us make well under 100k a year, but really were lucky when we can get a job that pays 40k+ a year. and our wages have frozen or gone backwards in the last 5 years, while the price of everything else skyrockets.

i have no hopes of being filthy rich and am content with my current income and lifestyle.

i also have principles in which i live by, and that does not include forcefully taking money from others and redistributing it. what they earned is theirs. what i earned is mine.