Why do they ask you how you want your burger done in Philly?

[waylman]

Im from Vancouver. When you order a burger, they do not ask you how you want it done. It comes medium-well to well done. But, now that I live in Philly, when I order a burger, they ask me how I want it cooked??? Is all of the US like this? Are they not aware that it is unsafe to eat hamburger that is not cooked all the way through? I'm confused.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: waylman
Im from Vancouver. When you order a burger, they do not ask you how you want it done. It comes medium-well to well done. But, now that I live in Philly, when I order a burger, they ask me how I want it cooked??? Is all of the US like this? Are they not aware that it is unsafe to eat hamburger that is not cooked all the way through? I'm confused.

Taste over safety I guess.

 

[FoBoT]

some people like ecoli?

 

[iamme]

yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

 

[Linflas]

Because some of us prefer our burgers rare.

 

[Hammer]

most sit down burger places will ask you

 

[Red Dawn]

Lettuce, cheese, tomato and hold the buggers

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: iamme
yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

yes, they do. But, eating a rare steak is safe. Eating a rare burger is not.

 

[Spooner]

a rare burger........ odd

 

[GasX]

rare
medium rare
medium
medium well
well
charcoal briquette

something for eveyone...

See, in a truly free country, you have choices... And if you want mayo on your burger, you ask for it...

 

[benliong]

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: iamme
yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

yes, they do. But, eating a rare steak is safe. Eating a rare burger is not.

I know at least in Baltimore that by law, places serving burgers cannot serve them anything below medium. I tried to ask for medium rare and was told they couldn't do that because of the law.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: waylman
Im from Vancouver. When you order a burger, they do not ask you how you want it done. It comes medium-well to well done. But, now that I live in Philly, when I order a burger, they ask me how I want it cooked??? Is all of the US like this? Are they not aware that it is unsafe to eat hamburger that is not cooked all the way through? I'm confused.

Because some of us consider medium-well overcooked.

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: iamme
yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

yes, they do. But, eating a rare steak is safe. Eating a rare burger is not.

I know at least in Baltimore that by law, places serving burgers cannot serve them anything below medium. I tried to ask for medium rare and was told they couldn't do that because of the law.

just curious....why would you want it anything below medium?....are you not aware of the health hazard?

 

[Mr N8]

Any place I've been, save fast food, asks how you want it done. I mostly eat anywhere from Milwaukee, WI to Chicago, IL, but I do travel a lot, too.

If the burger is a little pink, that is still safe, as long as the meat got up to ~160'F.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: iamme
yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

yes, they do. But, eating a rare steak is safe. Eating a rare burger is not.

I know at least in Baltimore that by law, places serving burgers cannot serve them anything below medium. I tried to ask for medium rare and was told they couldn't do that because of the law.

just curious....why would you want it anything below medium?....are you not aware of the health hazard?

Life is a health hazard, I prefer to live it and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Spoooon]

Eating uncooked burger is not necessarily unsafe.

The problem with ground beef is just you don't know who's handling it so there is a greater risk of bacteria or whatever.

If you have a butcher that you trust, then you should be able to have all the steak tartare that you want.

edit: At a fast food place, I would not expect anyone to ask me if I wanted my burger cooked any other way than well done. But at a nice burger place, if they ask, I get them medium well. And I'm still alive and kicking. I get my steaks rare.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: iamme
yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

yes, they do. But, eating a rare steak is safe. Eating a rare burger is not.

I know at least in Baltimore that by law, places serving burgers cannot serve them anything below medium. I tried to ask for medium rare and was told they couldn't do that because of the law.

just curious....why would you want it anything below medium?....are you not aware of the health hazard?

Life is a health hazard, I prefer to live it and let the chips fall where they may.

I'd rather risk my life in endeavors other than eating a burger.

 

[CChaos]

Any restaurant that doesn't ask you for a temperature probably does so to cover it's ass. Maybe they don't trust their cooks? Anyway, any restaurant I worked out would cook a burger or steak to any temperature including black and blue. If some guy want's a burger that's burnt on the outside and raw in the middle, so be it. Now Pugu me!

 

[Amused]

This hysteria is silly. I, and my whole family grew up on medium or medium rare hamburgers. We had them at least once a week as kids, more as adults. Not a single one of us has ever had E. Coli.

I agree there is a slight risk, but it's not NEARLY as bad as it's hyped up to be. Not by a long shot. You take greater risks in your everyday life without even thinking about it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: benliong

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: iamme
yes, most restaurants ask you how you want it cooked.

don't restaurants in vancouver ask how you want your steak cooked?

yes, they do. But, eating a rare steak is safe. Eating a rare burger is not.

I know at least in Baltimore that by law, places serving burgers cannot serve them anything below medium. I tried to ask for medium rare and was told they couldn't do that because of the law.

just curious....why would you want it anything below medium?....are you not aware of the health hazard?

Life is a health hazard, I prefer to live it and let the chips fall where they may.

I'd rather risk my life in endeavors other than eating a burger.

E. coli rarely kills those with normal immune systems.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Amused

I agree there is a slight risk, but it's not NEARLY as bad as it's hyped up to be. Not by a long shot. You take greater risks in your everyday life without even thinking about it.

i knew a guy back in the early 90's whose 2 year old step daughter died from eating bad hamburger from Jack in the Box in the Seattle area (ecoli)

yes, it is rare, more people die from car accidents and stuff

linked

In January of 1993 there was a E.coli outbreak associated with Jack in the Box restaurants, located in Washington state. 350 people became ill and 3 children died. ( Moeller, 1996)


The source of the outbreak was a batch of contaminated hamburger meat that was purchased by a supplier.


Thoroughly cooking the hamburger would have killed the bacteria, but Jack in the Box used a cooking star that was deemed acceptable in most states. Unfortunately it was not sufficient to kill E.coli. Since this E.coli outbreak caused Jack in the Box chain has instituted a food safety program.


Although Jack in the Box sales dropped a great deal in 1993 and 1994 they have grown to a total of 1,800 stores. This is attributed to the company?s devotion to improve food safety and public awareness.

 

[Gulzakar]

I personally think well done meat tastes better.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: waylman
Im from Vancouver. When you order a burger, they do not ask you how you want it done. It comes medium-well to well done. But, now that I live in Philly, when I order a burger, they ask me how I want it cooked??? Is all of the US like this? Are they not aware that it is unsafe to eat hamburger that is not cooked all the way through? I'm confused.

They don't ask you in Canada b/c it's against the law. At least that is what I was told when I tried to order a burger medium the last time I was in Vancouver. Even worse was not being able to get sunny-side up eggs or eggs benedict.

 

[Spoooon]

They don't ask you in Canada b/c it's against the law. At least that is what I was told when I tried to order a burger medium the last time I was in Vancouver. Even worse was not being able to get sunny-side up eggs or eggs benedict.

I think it's against the law in some places in the US to get your eggs sunny side up.

I like mine over easy.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: Amused

I agree there is a slight risk, but it's not NEARLY as bad as it's hyped up to be. Not by a long shot. You take greater risks in your everyday life without even thinking about it.

i knew a guy back in the early 90's whose 2 year old step daughter died from eating bad hamburger from Jack in the Box in the Seattle area (ecoli)

yes, it is rare, more people die from car accidents and stuff

linked

In January of 1993 there was a E.coli outbreak associated with Jack in the Box restaurants, located in Washington state. 350 people became ill and 3 children died. ( Moeller, 1996)


The source of the outbreak was a batch of contaminated hamburger meat that was purchased by a supplier.


Thoroughly cooking the hamburger would have killed the bacteria, but Jack in the Box used a cooking star that was deemed acceptable in most states. Unfortunately it was not sufficient to kill E.coli. Since this E.coli outbreak caused Jack in the Box chain has instituted a food safety program.


Although Jack in the Box sales dropped a great deal in 1993 and 1994 they have grown to a total of 1,800 stores. This is attributed to the company?s devotion to improve food safety and public awareness.

Yes, I know all about the JB outbreak. There was a bad E. coli breakout in Chicago, too. But just as I said, those with adult, intact immune systems very rarely die from it. Should people with AIDS, and other immune system troubles and young kids have their burgers well done? Probably. But for most of us, it should be an assumed, educated risk.

And when you compare the numbers who have become ill with those who have not, it is statistically insignifigant. E. coli is a very, very slim chance.