Why do these things happen to me? :P

upsciLLion

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Okay, here's the basic hardware I've got so far for my new 'puter:

MSI K7T Turbo mobo
AMD Duron 800
128 MB CAS2 Crucial RAM
Enlight 7237 case w/300 watt AMD approved PSU

I'm about ready to cry because I can't get it to even post with nothing in the mobo. I just got the stupid motherboard back from RMAing it and I'm at my wit's end, people. One thing that might help is that when I plug my PSU in, there's an audible click. Whether that is a click or a spark, I know not. But pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease help me!! I will be eternally grateful and I will write a poem in your memory.

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MattStone

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You say it won't post...this may sound stupid, but do you have your video card in...??
 

Slikkster

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Do you have the motherboard installed on the standoff posts (doesn't matter whether they're metal or plastic)?
I'm really asking if you're sure the motherboard isn't directly touching the case itself, which would create a short circuit condition. Also, are you absolutely sure the cpu is seated correctly?
 

upsciLLion

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Matt Stone,

No, I don't have a vid card in there. I guess I should rephrase what I stated. The d@mn thing won't even turn on. The fan in the PSU won't spin or anything. :p

Slikkster,

I had it in the case at first, screwed in, but then it wouldn't work so I pulled it out, set a shirt between the mobo and case, and tried it again and still nothing. I'm pretty sure the CPU's in there right. The missing pin and missing pin slot match up. One thing I wasn't sure of was that I had to hold the CPU down when I pushed the latch on the socket back into place, otherwise it would pop out. In addition to that, the lever was more difficult to push down than if there were no CPU in there, which I don't know is normal or not, but I thought I'd give as much info as I could.

Thanks.

upsciLLion
 

blueghost75

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Sounds to me like the PSU. So you already sent the mobo back? That just about says that it is the PSU. Now, it is also possible that the power wouldn't even turn on without the video card, but I would not think that is the cause....... I once had 10 computers that were fried by some power problems. The PSU were in such a state that if you plugged a regular mobo into them, the PSU would fry the mobo within 5 minutes. It took two mobo's getting fried for me to figure that out. I would suggest getting the PSU replaced, then go from there. You might have to get another RMA on that mobo.
 

upsciLLion

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Well, hopefully I won't have to RMA my RMAed motherboard. ;) I just want the cursed thing to work. I spent almost all the money I made during the summer working on this dekcuf up thing and man I'm so pissed. :( Ah well, I guess being mad never helped anything. I'm gonna try my mom's Dell PSU and see how that goes. I waited 3 weeks for that mobo to come back. If I have to RMA the PSU I'm gonna buy a new one and eGay the other one when I get it back. No way I'm waiting that long again. Oh well, c'est la vie, non? ;) Anyone think that trying out the Dell PSU might accidently damage it if my mobo is screwed up?

Thanks.

upsciLLion
 

littleprince

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an even dumber question...

your sure the plug you plugged into your power supply works right?
i've done it b4, the plug in my wall doenst supply power unless you flip a wall switch....

and you hooked the psu into the mother board correctly i assume??
and have you tried the switch on the back of the power supply??
if you plug something directly into the ps, it will turn on...
unless the power is cut by the switch on the back of the psu
 

upsciLLion

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Yeah, I've tried it in multiple outlets wondering about that. Still nothing. :p I have the PSU plugged into the mobo correctly, with the little clippy parts matching up. ATX power supplies don't work unless they're started up by the motherboard or something. Here's the words from Enlight's website: According to Intel?s specified ATX design, an ATX power supply WILL NOT power- up without being connected to an ATX mainboard or a specialized ATX power supply testing device. In addition, the wires coming from the front panel power switch must be correctly attached to the 2-pin connector on the mainboard according to their polarity. Please refer to the documentation that came with your mainboard for the location of the power switch connector pins.

Blah blah blah, yeah sounds like I need to try another PSU. :p Oh well. Thanks.

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WarCon

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You are probably right but check one thing, did any of the pins in the cable come out of plug, I use to get that all the time with one brand of PS's. Also for future reference keep your P.S. unplugged anytime you mess with an ATX motherboard or anything plugged into it. They have somethings still hot and it can damage mobo. But I'm sure you knew that, only reason I said anything was that you said you heard a click, which means your plug was hot.
 

upsciLLion

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WarCon,

I checked the connector slot things in the PSU to mobo connector and they all look all right. I make sure to unplug stuff before I mess with it. I've been a participating member of the Western Power Grid enough times to know that it won't kill me, but I don't want to do it if I don't have to. ;-) The click/spark noise is kind of unnerving. I once almost fried my subwoofer amp in my pickup by hooking it up backwards (yeah, I'm a smart one) so ever since then I've been quite cautious about making sure to hook things up right. Anyway. Any other ideas would be appreciated, thanks!

upsciLLion
 

Marqui

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Last check... have make sure your voltage is set properly on your case...

check the back of the case and see if your running at 115
 

Fermilevel

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You should be a little concerned with your statement where you said you had to "hold the CPU down" when you pushed the lever back in place. The CPU should practically fall in place when the lever is up and remain in that position as you seat it. I've never had a CPU jump out of the socket so you might want to check that you didn't bend a pin and that it is properly seated.

When you stuck your heatsink on, you didn't crack the CPU did you? The die in the middle should have sharp edges all around. If there is even the smallest chip off the middle die, the CPU is dead.