Why do some people think the Constitution was meant to limit Federal Power?

[Anarchist420]

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendXs6.html

Madison, in addition to Hamilton believed in implied powers. Madison was lying when he said the contrary earlier, and did so just to get it ratified.

Madison's views never changed, he was always a big government Federalist.

The brains behind the Constitution were all statist.

How anyone could see it as document that specifically enumerates all of the Federal Government's powers is beyond my comprehension.

 

[Bowfinger]

/raises hand

What is the 10th Amendment Alex?

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

 

[sactoking]

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendXs6.html

How anyone could see it as document that specifically enumerates all of the Federal Government's powers is beyond my comprehension.

Well aside from the fact that the "Founding Fathers" were, in aggregate, very pro-Republic you have the fact that many of the colonies had absolutely no intention of signing any agreement with strong Federalist powers.

Oh, there's also the fact that the colonies tried to go with a less Federalist agreement, the Articles of Confederation, but had to scrap that idea when it turned out to be too decentralized. The Constitution was a (small) incremental step away from a "pure Republic" with strong States' rights out of necessity.

Then there's also the fact that the Bill of Rights as a whole serves to limit the Federalist interpretation of the Constitution. No Amendment exemplifies that more than the 10th which spells out in plain language that the Constitution "specifically enumerates all of the Federal Government's powers". This was so important to the Constitution that, while later added as an amendment, a deal had to be struck guaranteeing it's later inclusion or the Constitution never would have been ratified.

So, I'm sorry that you can't comprehend how it's possible that Federalism was intended to be tempered by the Constitution but not only is it contextually obvious it's also literally spelled out in the document itself.

 

[Anarchist420]

Did you read what I linked?

The States never would've been ratified the Constitution if they had been able to try it before they bought the BS.

 

[Greenman]

/raises hand

What is the 10th Amendment Alex?

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

I don't think he's counting the 10th amendment.

 

[Bowfinger]

I don't think he's counting the 10th amendment.

Apparently not, though in fairness, Congress and the Supreme Court seem to have misplaced it as well.

 

[Kadarin]

The federal government didn't turn to shit until the Commerce Clause was reinterpreted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

 

[Greenman]

The federal government didn't turn to shit until the Commerce Clause was reinterpreted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

Ain't that the truth. Once they cracked that nut the sky was the limit.

 

[dmcowen674]

The federal government didn't turn to shit until the Commerce Clause was reinterpreted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

(1942), was a U.S. Supreme Court decision that dramatically increased the power of the federal government to regulate economic activity. A farmer, Roscoe Filburn, was growing wheat to feed his chickens. The U.S. government had imposed limits on wheat production based on acreage owned by a farmer, in order to drive up wheat prices during the Great Depression, and Filburn was growing more than the limits permitted. Filburn was ordered to destroy his crops and pay a fine, even though he was producing the excess wheat for his own use and had no intention of selling it.

Well well, this was the pre-cursor to Eminent Domain ruling a few year back.

No one owns or has any say over the land in the U.S. other than the Government.

This alone is the downfall of the country, the rest is just a post-cursor history will show.

 

[Lithium381]

I'm not sure why people think that "we the people" means that the people ARE the government. The government is an entity that exists without checks or oversight, and mandates what is BEST for the people.

 

[piasabird]

Maybe because they just fought the revolutionary war to kick the King of England out of America and they did not want another king, Duh! You need to study some history there dude!