I'll agree in the sense that their strategy was ill-advised. Cooler heads should have prevailed.PATCO got what they deserved. I wish we could see the same done to the CTU, but not even liberals consider the CTU teachers to be a peril to anything except a quality education.
It sort of is, but not for the reasons he might attribute to their concern. The fear wasn't due to the use of might for rational reasons, but the legitimizing of bending the truth to achieve an aim even if it resulted in grievous harm.Thats not even remotely close to being accurate,,,
Maybe we would have gotten him sooner if Bush hadn't dismantled the group who's sole job was to track down OBLYou pretend the location of OBL suddenly popped out of thin air and appeared in the mind of Obama. You could not be more delusional if you tried...yet you manage to pretend I am delusional for realizing it took many years to locate OBL, confirm the information was good, and then devise a plan.
But keep on thinking what your masters tell you to think...keep on thinking Obama magicked the info out of thin air like a good litte drone does.
Thats not even remotely close to being accurate,,,
The lulz is strong with this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#Western_acceptanceIn 2003, following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein by U.S. forces, Gaddafi again admitted to having an active weapons of mass destruction program, and was willing to dismantle it. His announcement was well publicized, and during interviews Gaddafi confessed that the Iraq War "may have influenced him", but he would rather "focus on the positive", and hoped that other nations would follow his example.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-22/world/gadhafi.interview_1_biological-weapons-libyan-leader-moammar-gadhafi-hans-blix?_s=PM:WORLDHans Blix, former chief U.N. weapons inspector, said he imagined "Gadhafi could have been scared by what he saw happen in Iraq."
Asked about his decision, Gadhafi acknowledged that the Iraq war may have influenced him, but he insisted he wanted to focus on the "positive."
He said the world is a changed place in which his country can feel safe without weapons of mass destruction.
Close, the reason for being invaded may not have been a rational reason but the fear of being invaded was a rational fear. Kinda like if you are black and live next door to a KKK member...you have a rational fear of being harmed for an irrational reason.It sort of is, but not for the reasons he might attribute to their concern. The fear wasn't due to the use of might for rational reasons, but the legitimizing of bending the truth to achieve an aim even if it resulted in grievous harm.
We've always had the biggest gun collection so to speak, but our neighbors only started to get really worried when we started shooting based on supposition and self deception. The fear was about crazy people with lots of weapons.
There is a bit of a difference between influenced and "may have" influenced.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#Western_acceptance
You guys need to learn about the topics you are discussing prior to discussing them. Even Hans Blix says the War in Iraq influenced Gaddafi:
Now, even without all this actual proof, think about it critically. Lets set the stage:
Bush is President of the US. He has already invaded two Muslim nations for either potentially having WMDs or for having ties to terrorism. Libya potentially had WMDs and had ties to terrorism. Libya is also a Muslim nation. The US, still quite angry and flexing its nation destroying muscles, was looking around the globe still.
Gaddafi was rightfully worried the US would invade Libya.
I think you misunderstand my position; I give both Presidents credit for the death of OBL. The Bush administration found the info which led them to his exact whereabouts and the Obama administration both followed through with the info the Bush administration found and completed the task for killing OBL.Cybr, since the work of getting OBL started in bush II's admin you are giving bush Credit. So who gets credit for freeing hostages in Iran?
Appreciate the response. But this thread is about reagan so what about the Iran Hostage situation? You feel the same way there?I think you misunderstand my position; I give both Presidents credit for the death of OBL. The Bush administration found the info which led them to his exact whereabouts and the Obama administration both followed through with the info the Bush administration found and completed the task for killing OBL.
It was a long term endeavor that required a lot of work by a lot of people. Neither administration gets the credit for the act as neither could have done it without the other.
EDIT: I have always given Obama props for saying yes to the attack. I know he had fall guys waiting in case it failed - but they would not have saved him from the blowback if it did fail. Invading an "ally" is always risky, so kudos to Obama for doing the right thing.