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Why do so many on the right consider Ronald Regan a foriegn policy hero?

HomerJS

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So some radical Islamic nuts decide to kill 4 people at the US embassy in Libya and that makes Obama a failure.

Ronald Reagan was in charge when 241 Marines lost their lives in 1983 when Islamic Jihad bombed a barracks in Beruit Labanon.

Reagan had a different Middle East policy then Obama yet the same type of killing occurred but much much worse. Yet Reagan is a hero?

I don't get it.
 

Phokus

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The same thing will happen to Bush, just you watch. Republicans are incredibly good at message discipline and being deluded retards. Say a lie enough times and it's true. That's how this happens.
 

cybrsage

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You have to compare the person with the times in which they lived, especially in light of those who were in the recent past at that time. Reagan was compared to Carter wrt foreign policy...and as such it was easy to be a huge success, even with some failures.

Obama comes on the heals of Bush - whose foreign policy saw nations quaking whenever the US looked at them askew.

Phokus is just butt hurt his Messiah is not receiving universal praise...ignore his tantrum.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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You have to compare the person with the times in which they lived, especially in light of those who were in the recent past at that time. Reagan was compared to Carter wrt foreign policy...and as such it was easy to be a huge success, even with some failures.

Obama comes on the heals of Bush - whose foreign policy saw nations quaking whenever the US looked at them askew.

Phokus is just butt hurt his Messiah is not receiving universal praise...ignore his tantrum.
Ask Bin Laden and Gaddafi what they think of the differences between Bush's foreign policy and Obama's... Oh right...
 

CallMeJoe

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After the Beirut disaster, President Reagan promptly ordered the invasion of Grenada, proving that the full might of the American military could kick the shit out of a few Cuban construction battalions, thereby restoring Our Honor.
 

cybrsage

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Ask Bin Laden and Gaddafi what they think of the differences between Bush's foreign policy and Obama's... Oh right...
Wait, you really DID buy into that liberal brainwashing stuff! :D You actually think Obama conjured up OBL by magic and then personall went there and hit him in the face with a golf club, killing him!

Wow, I thought the DNC did a better job at telling your kind what to think...you are failing them badly.
 

cybrsage

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After the Beirut disaster, President Reagan promptly ordered the invasion of Grenada, proving that the full might of the American military could kick the shit out of a few Cuban construction battalions, thereby restoring Our Honor.
Why do you hate US Medical Students?
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Wait, you really DID buy into that liberal brainwashing stuff! :D You actually think Obama conjured up OBL by magic and then personall went there and hit him in the face with a golf club, killing him!

Wow, I thought the DNC did a better job at telling your kind what to think...you are failing them badly.
Yea, I'm the brainwashed one. That you don't understand what involvement was needed from the top to allow for that mission to happen is not my problem. I know it's a simple fact that you will choose to remain delusional on the topic.
 

WackyDan

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Ask Bin Laden and Gaddafi what they think of the differences between Bush's foreign policy and Obama's... Oh right...
And ask Gaddafi's ghost what he thought of Reagan's foreign policy when he bombed Tripoli in response to Libya's sponsoring the bombing over lockerbie. We bombed him without the flyover permissions of our supposed "allies"... And the fucker went quiet for over 30 years. That is not the tact to take with all foreign policy but was the perfect one for that situation.

Obama has undone much of that. Apologetic coward.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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Yea, I'm the brainwashed one. That you don't understand what involvement was needed from the top to allow for that mission to happen is not my problem. I know it's a simple fact that you will choose to remain delusional on the topic.
You pretend the location of OBL suddenly popped out of thin air and appeared in the mind of Obama. You could not be more delusional if you tried...yet you manage to pretend I am delusional for realizing it took many years to locate OBL, confirm the information was good, and then devise a plan.

But keep on thinking what your masters tell you to think...keep on thinking Obama magicked the info out of thin air like a good litte drone does.
 

IronWing

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And ask Gaddafi's ghost what he thought of Reagan's foreign policy when he bombed Tripoli in response to Libya's sponsoring the bombing over lockerbie. We bombed him without the flyover permissions of our supposed "allies"... And the fucker went quiet for over 30 years. That is not the tact to take with all foreign policy but was the perfect one for that situation.

Obama has undone much of that. Apologetic coward.
Reagan didn't bomb Tripoli over the Lockerbie bombing. He bombed Tripoli over the Berlin nightclub bombing. Get your tit for tat slaughter of innocents straight.

Speaking of the slaughter of innocents there were Reagan's war crimes in Central America where Reagan thought rape, torture, and murder were legitimate tools to promote democracy. Reagan: traitorous war criminal, no wonder the conservatives worship him.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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You pretend the location of OBL suddenly popped out of thin air and appeared in the mind of Obama. You could not be more delusional if you tried...yet you manage to pretend I am delusional for realizing it took many years to locate OBL, confirm the information was good, and then devise a plan.

But keep on thinking what your masters tell you to think...keep on thinking Obama magicked the info out of thin air like a good litte drone does.
Lol, when did I claim Obama personally found the location? Someone brought the information to him. It wasn't known to 100% sure. He made the tough decision of going into a foreign country without permission risking lives and probably any chance of reelection if it failed or if he wasn't there and civilians got killed. Yea, right he had nothing to do with it. Your pal Bush would have been too much of a pansy to make the call as was proven in past opportunities to kill OBL.
 

cybrsage

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Lol, when did I claim Obama personally found the location? Someone brought the information to him. It wasn't known to 100% sure. He made the tough decision of going into a foreign country without permission risking lives and probably any chance of reelection if it failed or if he wasn't there and civilians got killed. Yea, right he had nothing to do with it. Your pal Bush would have been too much of a pansy to make the call as was proven in past opportunities to kill OBL.
You are starting to use your brain...now please continue to use it. How long do you think it took the US Intelligence Community to locate his exact whereabouts?

Bush would have bombed the building, then send in ground forces to recover the DNA evidence. Calling Bush a pansy wrt blowing up Muslims is just stupid. Really, you are disappointing your masters when you say stupid things like that.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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You are starting to use your brain...now please continue to use it. How long do you think it took the US Intelligence Community to locate his exact whereabouts?

Bush would have bombed the building, then send in ground forces to recover the DNA evidence. Calling Bush a pansy wrt blowing up Muslims is just stupid. Really, you are disappointing your masters when you say stupid things like that.
It wasn't the first time the intelligence community narrowed down his location who do you think was in charge most of those other times? If Bush would have OBL would have been dead years ago. No Bush was more interested in wasting thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in another country. Bombing the building likely would have left no ability to prove anything and the information at hand was far from sure to begin with. If the information was reliable enough to bomb, it would have been done. Use your brain a little.
 

Phokus

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You are starting to use your brain...now please continue to use it. How long do you think it took the US Intelligence Community to locate his exact whereabouts?

Bush would have bombed the building, then send in ground forces to recover the DNA evidence. Calling Bush a pansy wrt blowing up Muslims is just stupid. Really, you are disappointing your masters when you say stupid things like that.
LOL, Bush closed down the CIA unit that was tasked to hunt down Bin Laden. And he famously said he didn't care about Bin Laden. You're retarded.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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LOL, Bush closed down the CIA unit that was tasked to hunt down Bin Laden. And he famously said he didn't care about Bin Laden. You're retarded.
Phokus, you really need to gain knowledge before saying others are retarded...all you do is show just how retarded you actuall are. Had you done even the most basic of research, you would know this:

Timeline: Osama bin Laden operation

May 02, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff

The operation that led to the killing of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden took shape after detainees identified a trusted bin Laden courier as someone who may have been living with and protecting the militant leader, senior administration officials said.
That courier became a key lead in locating bin Laden, the officials said.
The officials provided details on the origins of the operation and the raid that led to bin Laden's killing:

• Four years ago: Officials uncovered the courier's identity. (Phokus, note when four years before 2011 was...I will let you do the math and then figure out who was president at that time)
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-02/world/bin.laden.raid.timeline_1_bin-raid-defense-official?_s=PM:WORLD
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Phokus, you really need to gain knowledge before saying others are retarded...all you do is show just how retarded you actuall are. Had you done even the most basic of research, you would know this:

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-02/world/bin.laden.raid.timeline_1_bin-raid-defense-official?_s=PM:WORLD
Of course you're still retarded because bush could have caught him during HIS presidency if he didn't escape and he didn't disband the unit that was tasked to hunt him down. Thankfully, we had Obama who was on the ball and dedicated to hunting Osama down. If Bush was still in office, Osama would still be alive.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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It wasn't the first time the intelligence community narrowed down his location who do you think was in charge most of those other times? If Bush would have OBL would have been dead years ago. No Bush was more interested in wasting thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in another country. Bombing the building likely would have left no ability to prove anything and the information at hand was far from sure to begin with. If the information was reliable enough to bomb, it would have been done. Use your brain a little.
At least you backed away from your failed attempt to say Bush is a pansy wrt blowing up Muslims...that shows you can learn when the truth is shoved in your face.

Then you go on and violate the lib talking point that Bush needs real proof of anything to bomb a Muslim nation. You are going to make your masters really angry if you keep violating their sacred talking points. First you claim Bush will not bomb Muslims because he is a pansy, then you claim Bush needs solid proof before bombing Muslims. You are crushing tried and true lib talking points...

At this point you simply need to start to use your own brain instead of only thinking what your masters tell you to think. I am confident you can do it. Give it a shot. Like any unused muslcle, it will hurt a bit and be difficult, but with time and continued use your mind will begin to be usable by you again on your own.

Think about this: If the info was not reliable enough for bombing, it was also not reliable enough to be used to invade Pakistan with US Soldiers.

Think it through, I know you can do it.
 

Phokus

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Cybersage probably thinks Reagan was a hero when the Marine Barracks were bombed and Reagan pulled out.
 

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