Why do people wait until the last minute to cut you off so they can exit?

[JulesMaximus]

I'm not sure where you live, but in NY, there's usually a sign a mile before the exit announcing which exit is coming up. And, in congested areas, there's often a sign 2 miles before the exit. Thus, "made a mistake in judging" is actually, "has very shitty judgment."

Also, at least around here, most off-ramps give you plenty of time to slow down on them. You don't need to slow down from 70 to 30 in your lane before you get off the highway.

Either that or they're from New Jersey. :biggrin:

 

[Phoenix86]

If people would zipper merge closer to the lane ending this wouldn't be a problem. There's no benefit in merging 3 miles ahead of the lane ending, and this can make traffic slower before you add asshole like this to the mix.

 

[smackababy]

What if he just shoots you?

Well, then I'm the one who ends up on "when keeping it real goes wrong".

 

[MongGrel]

Either that or they're from New Jersey. :biggrin:

Things like this are a big reason with Florida traffic in general really.

:biggrin:

 

[jtvang125]

There are a lot of drivers who believe it's a competition, and must get ahead of every car possible on their trip. Where I get on the highway in the morning there are two lanes on the road heading to the entrance ramp. About 80% of the cars going that direction are heading for the highway. Traffic is moving at the speed limit of 40. And every single day, there will be drivers flying in the left lane at 60 who cut over at the last second to the ramp.

You have to be ready to hit the brake as you near the ramp which is ridiculous. Those cars could have smoothly moved over to the right lane any time in the previous 200 yards but no, they have to cut someone off at the last second.

So true! There's a few a-holes that take the same route to the freeway every morning. There's a stop light about a block before the onramp where cars start stacking up to get on. This is early morning (5:30) so there really isn't that many cars stopping at the light yet. 2 or 3 cars at the most. But these a-holes will refuse to stack up and try to beat everyone once it turns green. Even if there's only one car in front they'll go in the empty adjacent lane and cut over.

 

[Phoenix86]

So true! There's a few a-holes that take the same route to the freeway every morning. There's a stop light about a block before the onramp where cars start stacking up to get on. This is early morning (5:30) so there really isn't that many cars stopping at the light yet. 2 or 3 cars at the most. But these a-holes will refuse to stack up and try to beat everyone once it turns green. Even if there's only one car in front they'll go in the empty adjacent lane and cut over.

Similar situation here, there's a double left turn just before an onramp to a highway. Obviously if you are getting on the ramp you want to be in the far left lane. You get one person in that lane and the next slides over to the second left lane. Then it's a race to see who gets on first!

Or they slip right in behind them cutting of the second person in the far left lane.

FFS

 

[SP33Demon]

Look on the bright side, in 50 years this thread will be obsolete for yo grandkids.

 

[halik]

Illusory superiority complex.

A study on the subject in 1981 found for driving skills, 93% of the U.S. sample put themselves in the top 50%; for safety, 88% of the U.S. put themselves in the top 50%.

They believe they are a better driver than everyone else on the road. When in reality they've simply misjudged their ability to navigate a roadway.

Of course there are those who honestly made a mistake in judging where their exit was, and need to rely on the courtesy of others to assist them in correcting their misjudgment. If you're not familiar with traffic patterns or what lies ahead, you're not instinctively going to get into a slower moving lane just in case it's the line for your intended exit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

[halik]

Because it saves me an extra 10 seconds to a minute or two.

Terrible driver says what?

 

[cavemanmoron]

I drove on the NYS thruway yesterday afternoon - it was filled with asshole drivers.

And, of course, you had your idiots going 66 to pass someone going 65, with no one in front of them in the left lane.

Sorry I had my Cruise Control set for 68mph.

 

[rh71]

There's just so many driving peeves. Another is someone coming onto the highway and has to cut you off to get in when there's absolutely nobody behind you. And by cut you off, I mean make you brake.

But I don't think anything is worse as when you're in the right lane coming up to a red light first, about to make a right on red... and a guy in the left lane decides he has to be first at the light and goes into your lane preventing you from turning. F&#K Y!#. Inconsiderate. Use your head, you prick.

 

[lxskllr]

What pisses me off more is people who don't seem to realize their lane is disappearing. Right lane ends 1500' - no recoginition. Puppy tracks start - no recognition. Lane starts getting narrower - no recognition. Suddenly they're next to me(cause fuck them with a piece of hot rebar), and need to get over. Either get behind me, or drive into the bridge abutment you stupid wise and beautiful woman, cause I'm not moving :^S

 

[yuchai]

There's just so many driving peeves. Another is someone coming onto the highway and has to cut you off to get in when there's absolutely nobody behind you. And by cut you off, I mean make you brake.

But I don't think anything is worse as when you're in the right lane coming up to a red light first, about to make a right on red... and a guy in the left lane decides he has to be first at the light and goes into your lane preventing you from turning. F&#K Y!#. Inconsiderate. Use your head, you prick.

Done that before when I forgot about being outside NYC, where you cannot turn on red. That guy was so pissed off! I'm really conscious about it now and avoid the right lane when going straight.

 

[Danadcorps]

I drive on the NJ Turnpike quite a lot and the worst-mannered drivers are always New Yorkers. I always cruise at 75 - 80 so I get in the left lane to pass and go as far right to cruise (most of the time I'm in the middle lane). The dick New Yorker will sit in the left lane going 65 or 70 (with no one in front of them) until you are about to pass in the middle lane. Then they speed up so you can't pass. To them, it must be a contest. I can't figure any other reason for it, but it's ALWAYS a New York driver who does this. They also never move from the left lane. Is "drive on the right. Pass on the left" such a hard concept to grasp?

My method of dealing with them is to continue cruising until there is a car ahead of me in the left lane, speeding up quickly to 80-85 and cutting the New York driver off. Fuck them.

 

[SP33Demon]

I drive on the NJ Turnpike quite a lot and the worst-mannered drivers are always New Yorkers. I always cruise at 75 - 80 so I get in the left lane to pass and go as far right to cruise (most of the time I'm in the middle lane). The dick New Yorker will sit in the left lane going 65 or 70 (with no one in front of them) until you are about to pass in the middle lane. Then they speed up so you can't pass. To them, it must be a contest. I can't figure any other reason for it, but it's ALWAYS a New York driver who does this. They also never move from the left lane. Is "drive on the right. Pass on the left" such a hard concept to grasp?

My method of dealing with them is to continue cruising until there is a car ahead of me in the left lane, speeding up quickly to 80-85 and cutting the New York driver off. Fuck them.

In NJ you will get ticketed for driving in the left lane too long if the right is available, the left is to be a passing lane only. Not sure if they actually enforce this though.

 

[purbeast0]

I drive on the NJ Turnpike quite a lot and the worst-mannered drivers are always New Yorkers. I always cruise at 75 - 80 so I get in the left lane to pass and go as far right to cruise (most of the time I'm in the middle lane). The dick New Yorker will sit in the left lane going 65 or 70 (with no one in front of them) until you are about to pass in the middle lane. Then they speed up so you can't pass. To them, it must be a contest. I can't figure any other reason for it, but it's ALWAYS a New York driver who does this. They also never move from the left lane. Is "drive on the right. Pass on the left" such a hard concept to grasp?

My method of dealing with them is to continue cruising until there is a car ahead of me in the left lane, speeding up quickly to 80-85 and cutting the New York driver off. Fuck them.

this happens daily when i drive on the highway to/from work in MD. the worst possible drivers on the planet are in the DMV area. it was amazing when i drove down to NC a few weeks ago for vacation and as soon as you get out of the NOVA area of I95, everyone knows how to drive and it's such a good feeling.

 

[NoTine42]

I drive on the NJ Turnpike quite a lot and the worst-mannered drivers are always New Yorkers. I always cruise at 75 - 80 so I get in the left lane to pass and go as far right to cruise (most of the time I'm in the middle lane). The dick New Yorker will sit in the left lane going 65 or 70 (with no one in front of them) until you are about to pass in the middle lane. Then they speed up so you can't pass. To them, it must be a contest. I can't figure any other reason for it, but it's ALWAYS a New York driver who does this. They also never move from the left lane. Is "drive on the right. Pass on the left" such a hard concept to grasp?

My method of dealing with them is to continue cruising until there is a car ahead of me in the left lane, speeding up quickly to 80-85 and cutting the New York driver off. Fuck them.

Do you drive a minivan? People hate being passed by a minivan. I love "calling out" slow drivers by passing them when I'm driving the family van, it causes a lot of people to finally pickup their speed

I guess the opposite of NY drivers are Indiana drivers. You can be cruising along, on cruise control at a steady speed. If an Indiana driver passes me, they will move into my lane....and proceed to slow down, below my cruise control speed! Why pass me if you want to go slower than me?

 

[SparkyJJO]

Look on the bright side, in 50 years this thread will be obsolete for yo grandkids.

Nah, it'll be even worse. You really think people will get better at this?

And the whole self-driving cars thing, well, two things will happen - you'll still have the idiots driving like this regardless, or they'll hack their car's computer to drive like they do lol.

 

[poofyhairguy]

What pisses me off more is people who don't seem to realize their lane is disappearing. Right lane ends 1500' - no recoginition. Puppy tracks start - no recognition. Lane starts getting narrower - no recognition. Suddenly they're next to me(cause fuck them with a piece of hot rebar), and need to get over. Either get behind me, or drive into the bridge abutment you stupid wise and beautiful woman, cause I'm not moving :^S

You might not move because you don't value your vehicle, but most people do and so they will pull back and let the person in EVEN if they just waited in stop and go traffic because of merging into that lane early.

There is one part of my commute where a lane goes away and another where I get off an exit and then merge back in the next highway entrance in order to avoid a daily slowdown on a curved part of the highway. In both of these cases I force merge my way into the lane I need to get into at the exact second I need to be in that lane, much to the chagrin of people who in both cases probably waited in slower traffic in that lane due to people merging in. I have timed playing it straight vs doing this daily force merge and it a 5-10 minute swing on my commute. So I will keep doing it as the rules of the road incentivize driving like an asshole.

I will say though I don't drive COMPLETELY parallel (and oblivious) with the vehicle I am planning on forcing to let me merge in. I drive a little bit ahead, partially to show a stance of dominance and partially if I ever run into someone like you who values their ego more than their vehicle THEY will hit ME with their front bumper making it all their fault in the eyes of the cops/God/their insurance company.

So be careful playing chicken with merging assholes, if they are pros like me your policy is paying for their next car.

 

[lxskllr]

So be careful playing chicken with merging assholes, if they are pros like me your policy is paying for their next car.

I'm not paying for shit. It's the mergers responsibility to yield, and I guarantee I value my vehicle less than just about anyone. If someone chooses to merge into my side, they'll be paying for my vehicle, or possibly giving me a nice payday, without having to sink it into the truck. Either way, I win, and perhaps the dipshit learned something(but probably not).

 

[Aikouka]

Ah, a shitty drivers thread. Rant on! :biggrin:

A zipper merge is pretty darn fast moving when people do it right, but there's just no fucking way...

Agreed. A zipper merge is nearly impossible around here because it's rare to find someone that would ever let you in. If the person cannot move in, they will just brake, and maybe the person in the good lane will also start braking to let them in. It's quite the fuster cluck.

Also, at least around here, most off-ramps give you plenty of time to slow down on them. You don't need to slow down from 70 to 30 in your lane before you get off the highway.

I see this a lot too. I usually prefer letting off the gas if I can, but I won't slow someone else down below the speed limit while I'm still in a lane of traffic.

But I don't think anything is worse as when you're in the right lane coming up to a red light first, about to make a right on red... and a guy in the left lane decides he has to be first at the light and goes into your lane preventing you from turning. F&#K Y!#. Inconsiderate. Use your head, you prick.

We have some straight+right lanes here that have a wide mouth, so people turning right can still turn even if someone is waiting there. The problem is that people are too busy ignoring everyone else to realize that sitting their huge ass flipping truck in the middle of the lane means you can't take advantage of this. :\

I see the same basic situation that you mentioned happen around here often in almost any lane. I'll be coming up to a light that's most likely going to change back to green soon (it's pretty easy to learn light patterns since they're all programmed), and the other lane will have two people in it. Except Dale Earnhardt decides that he wants that pole position, so even though he's already stopped, he moves over into the lane that I'm in.

The dick New Yorker will sit in the left lane going 65 or 70 (with no one in front of them) until you are about to pass in the middle lane. Then they speed up so you can't pass.

I see something kind of like that here. I use cruise control almost everywhere, so there's really no guessing what speed I'm going -- as long as the speed limit is constant, my speed is too. (My car is pretty good at keeping it the same even on hills.) So, when I pass someone rather easily, and then look back to find them riding my ass, it makes me wonder what in the world is going through their head. Usually about 30 seconds to a minute later, they'll back the hell off. I mostly see this on a 4-lane interstate with these people cruising at about +2 MPH in the second left-most lane.

 

[Danadcorps]

I'm not paying for shit. It's the mergers responsibility to yield, and I guarantee I value my vehicle less than just about anyone. If someone chooses to merge into my side, they'll be paying for my vehicle, or possibly giving me a nice payday, without having to sink it into the truck. Either way, I win, and perhaps the dipshit learned something(but probably not).

That's absolutely true. The lane that is not merging has right of way. The merging person takes full responsibility if an accident is caused.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I'm not paying for shit. It's the mergers responsibility to yield, and I guarantee I value my vehicle less than just about anyone. If someone chooses to merge into my side, they'll be paying for my vehicle, or possibly giving me a nice payday, without having to sink it into the truck. Either way, I win, and perhaps the dipshit learned something(but probably not).

I have studied this particular kind of wreck because I don't undertake any kind of encounter like this habitually without determining what level of risk I am exposed to. From reading about insurance cases and cop reports related to this type of wreck it becomes clear that "right of way" on a highway isn't as obvious as say an intersection. In most cases I have found the person who hits the other person with their front bumper is considered to be the party at fault no matter what lane they were in when the wreck occurred.

So you are correct that if they hit the side of your vehicle you would get a nice payday. But if you were up against a guy like me I would ensure I am ahead enough that you hit ME with your front bumper, thereby screwing up your car insurance rates for years as I get the payday.

Obviously its your life and some people value making a point more than they value money, just was letting you know that if you are going to play merge chicken there might be a day when you are seen at fault despite being in the lane that is not ending. I appreciate your contributions and I would hate for an asshole like me to ruin your day/insurance rates/life.

 

[poofyhairguy]

That's absolutely true. The lane that is not merging has right of way. The merging person takes full responsibility if an accident is caused.

Actually most of the time whatever party hits the other party with the front of their vehicle is at fault. Because highway right of way is so hard to clearly define outside of intersections often the rear end rule takes precedence in the real world when these wrecks occur. If there was only a side collision the right of way matters, but someone like me just ensures they are a little bit ahead when getting to the merge point which forces a choice of either slowing down or hitting me with your front bumper (making you at fault).

 

[OverVolt]

Because the left lanes are faster derp.

Although its a shitty thing to do when traffic is high.