Why do people say that having a degree makes it easier to get a job?

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Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'm a proud owner of a BA in Theatre.

I couldn't imagine having a degree in the things some of you have degrees in. Computer Science/Engineering blah blah blah. I mean, good on you but the idea of running the corporate race for 40 years in hopes of maybe making $250k annually, all the while hoping for that house in the suburbs where you can build your "home theatre" in the basement with a projector and that 96" screen you spent a weekend hiding from "the wife" to make.

If that's what makes you happy.

But in regards to the OP's post - I feel ya.

And what does your BA in Theatre get you? What do you do that's so much better than what you described?

It gets me the freedom to not be locked in a suit all day...or an office. It also grants me the ability to deal with, ya know, artistic stuff.
 

Jhill

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My cousin has a psychology degree and she is a millionaire. So almost everyone can do it.
 

TecHNooB

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'm a proud owner of a BA in Theatre.

I couldn't imagine having a degree in the things some of you have degrees in. Computer Science/Engineering blah blah blah. I mean, good on you but the idea of running the corporate race for 40 years in hopes of maybe making $250k annually, all the while hoping for that house in the suburbs where you can build your "home theatre" in the basement with a projector and that 96" screen you spent a weekend hiding from "the wife" to make.

If that's what makes you happy.

But in regards to the OP's post - I feel ya.

And what does your BA in Theatre get you? What do you do that's so much better than what you described?

It gets me the freedom to not be locked in a suit all day...or an office. It also grants me the ability to deal with, ya know, artistic stuff.

You can still pursue that stuff with a math/science degree, as long as your heart is in it ;)

 

Jugernot

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Depends on the degree.

Not really.... there are people where I work that make $80k in the computer field that have Bachelors degrees in history and one in psycology. Nothing to with their profession.

Our employor only says "Must have a bachelors degree or applicable equivelent experience in the field of position." These people don't have experience, they have the bachelors.

Jugs
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Depends on the degree.

Not really.... there are people where I work that make $80k in the computer field that have Bachelors degrees in history and one in psycology. Nothing to with their profession.

Our employor only says "Must have a bachelors degree or applicable equivelent experience in the field of position." These people don't have experience, they have the bachelors.

Jugs

Ya, there are a lot of cases like that.


If you have skills that can make a company money then they will hire you. The type of degree is just a hint of what you can do. However, any degree shows that you have determination and you are capable of grasping a difficult long term goal and achieving victory. That is why all employers want someone with at least a degree. From there, they want alpha males and females. That is the main part. Everything else can be taught easily given enough time.

Of course, they also may require a specific skill set such as knowledge about how to program, but they do not care whether you learned these skills at a university or if you were self taught as long as you truly have the knowledge. Therefore, the degree doesn't matter for this part. Certain jobs simply cannot be performed without such knowledge. However, the employer knows that finding people with such knowledge is easier than finding those alpha males and females who are determined to learn and be successful and are hard working.
 

Parasitic

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Should've picked up biology or statistics as your minor. At least that combination is mildly useful.
Off to grad school for you I guess?
 

tw1164

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OP, it's ok, I have a BA is Sociology. I wish I would have gone to a school with a program more focused on applied sociology. I've been taking accounting classes at a local CC.
 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: BigToque
Anyway, I've decided to go back to school and get a second degree in nursing. This will mean a guaranteed well paying job, but I'm now gonna be in school until I'm 30.
Yeah, that's a good choice, the job postings for RN's everywhere seem to be limitless.

Look into physician's assistant programs too, you could get a master's in 2 years and easily make $70K+. Physical therapy and occupational therapy pay decently too. You'd have to go back and do about a year of undergrad science before getting into these programs though.
 

Modular

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Depends on the degree.

Not really.... there are people where I work that make $80k in the computer field that have Bachelors degrees in history and one in psycology. Nothing to with their profession.

Our employor only says "Must have a bachelors degree or applicable equivelent experience in the field of position." These people don't have experience, they have the bachelors.

Jugs

Ya, there are a lot of cases like that.


If you have skills that can make a company money then they will hire you. The type of degree is just a hint of what you can do. However, any degree shows that you have determination and you are capable of grasping a difficult long term goal and achieving victory. That is why all employers want someone with at least a degree. From there, they want alpha males and females. That is the main part. Everything else can be taught easily given enough time.

Of course, they also may require a specific skill set such as knowledge about how to program, but they do not care whether you learned these skills at a university or if you were self taught as long as you truly have the knowledge. Therefore, the degree doesn't matter for this part. Certain jobs simply cannot be performed without such knowledge. However, the employer knows that finding people with such knowledge is easier than finding those alpha males and females who are determined to learn and be successful and are hard working.

2 levelheaded posts in a row!? WTF is OT coming to?

Now come back in here and tell the OP he screwed up and is screwed in life. ;)
 

ponyo

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Don't worry. I've $120k Econ degree. It looks good as wall decoration in my home office. :)

Good luck with your nursing degree. Great choice. You should have no problem finding a job, but you're going to top out pretty quick.

 

Descartes

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This might have already been said, but many degrees don't actually teach you how to do anything. In computer science, for example, you'd be ill-prepared for an actual position unless you've supplemented education with internships, a lot of legitimate projects during your education, etc. Most leave university completely deficient in being able to handle most production tasks.

I would say this is true for almost any degree, and that's why the more demanding professions usually require the completion of an almost journeyman->master role through internships/apprenticeship. The trouble is, many graduates have trouble finding that first step and fall into other roles that further removes them from their educational background. After a few years, you're practically unemployable unless you're gaining experience elsewhere.

I think the problem is part sense of entitlement and part lazy. For a lot of people, they think a degree means you should get a job. That mentality leads people to completely failing to realize that they still have to market themselves, and usually the degree alone won't do it except in unique circumstances (great school, great academic performance, research valid to the company, etc.).

In summary: Everyone has to pay their dues. How long you have to pay them is entirely up to you.
 

Casawi

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Dude, you can teach your self a lot of skills that can get you a job. I work with contractors that do hardcore engineering work for us WITHOUT a degree. So it is a motivation, and the will to learn and adapt that matters.
You also should of thought about this before you paid tuition for 4years.
I think there is always ways to make myself useful and make me some money.
I don't think it is a good idea to graduate sit around and look for a job in your field. You can learn on your own, a bachelors degree is supposed to give you the tools you need to advance only, not necessarily buys you a house and supports you family; you do that.
Good luck