Why do people drive with both hands on the steering wheel?

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slpaulson

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I guess some of us (those who drive with two hands) have enough coordination that our hands don't fight each other. Are you able to walk and chew gum at the same time?
 

thomsbrain

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if you can't get both hands to do what you want them to without thinking about, please stop driving. i can't belive you're even posting this. unless it's a joke, in which case it wasn't very funny.

it's like saying, "i only walk on one foot cause i get more delicate control."

one hand offers you unsure grip on the wheel (especially if you are palming), a limited range of motion, limited speed when making quick manuvers (especially if you had to do heavy correction in a skid), a less powerful position for your arm (you have very little strengh pulling side to side but tons pulling down and pushing up), and less feedback through the wheel. i'm sorry, but unless you're AHNOLD, if you're in a situation where you have to turn right (so now your hand is twisted all the way around and your arm is upside down) and then have to go left to correct, i hope you have a friendly relationship with the ditch cause you're gonna be spending some time there. if you do the same thing with your palm, you'll be steering with your left elbow cause i doubt you will be prepared to provide the necessary force to maintain traction on the steering wheel when you yank it. you're not gonna stop to adjust your hand position, apply pressure, and then yank. you're just gonna yank and then you're screwed. with two hands you have your thumbs aready hooking around the wheel over the spokes, so even if you're not squeezing with a death grip you're still ready for action the minute something comes up. lastly, when you drive thug-style, your back is all twisted for hours on end. not so smart from a comfort perspective, either.

shockwave, if you were driving with two hands, you wouldn't have lost control at 75 MPH in the first place. ;) but seriously, i once went into a skid at 80 just before a tight corner on the freeway (had to swerve to avoid a mattress in the fast lane) in my station wagon and two hands got me through it just fine (barely even lost speed). so ta-da! two hands works, too! i also spend lots of time driving at 10/10ths on backroads. trust me, even when you're purposely pushing the limit, two hands is way better, even in a car with light steering like mine.

facelessnobody also raises a good point regarding the airbag. why do you think so many people end up with a broken/burned arm from the airbag? if you hold the wheel correctly, your arms are just pushed down and away from your body. hold it like Mr. G Funk and it's slamed up into your face at 200 MPH. yay!

there's a reason they're called "suicide knobs" you know. and there's a reason they're illegal.
 

kag

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Using 2 hands with power steering for most people means a gross overcorrection and a wreck. Also, its harder to initiate a turn to lock situation with 2 hands then 1, as with one you can instantly slide into a open palm and spin the wheel around whereas with 2 hands you need to remove 1 hand, or you can go about 90 degrtees MAX before your arms are crossed and you cant turn it anymore.

I don't buy that at all. To be able to keep turning the wheel with one hand you can't actually grip the wheel all the way around, you have to switch to pressure only (open palm)... which is how most people turn when using one hand. I'd love to see you pull that stunt if you ever had to swerve off-road. The wheel would be jerked out of your hand so fast on rough terrain you would be out of control in seconds. I bet everyone here claiming to be able to drive better with one hand has or will grip the will tightly with both hands when an actual emergency arises. You have better control when having to "fight" the steering wheel (i.e. rough terrain) when using two hands. Period. There really is no debate which is safer.

Amen.
 
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Originally posted by: LongAce
I drive a manual so both hands are not an option.

Huh? Shifting takes up at most maybe 5-10% of your total driving time. I drive a stick but prefer both hands on the wheel unless I am just tooling down the freeway at a consistent speed.

This thread has to be a joke . . . right? It's like asking "Why do people walk with two feet? Using one foot and crutches is much easier!"
 

mobiusman

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Originally posted by: glugglug
Situations where you would hydroplane and you are in a GM (Pontiac) car is the perfect example of where 2 hands are needed.

The reason is because GMs all have exposed wiring underneath which will short when you go through more than an inch or 2 of water at speed. When this happens, the first result (if it's not bad enough to stall you which it usually isn't) is that you will temporarily lose power steering. 1-handed non-power steering sucks.

It's pretty amazing that an electrical short would cause a belt driven power steering pump to fail...
I really hope your post was also a joke, like half of this thread.
 

DJFuji

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I used to drive a manual with NO POWER STEERING. I could drive one handed with that most of the time (so i could shift), but i knew that if i ever had to make a drastic turn or anything, i had better grab the wheel with the other hand. Imagine what kind of power you'll need to correct a skid at 80mph with no power steering using one palm on the wheel.

But i think the airbag thing is good enough reason to at LEAST drive not at 12 o clock.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: mobiusman
Originally posted by: glugglug
Situations where you would hydroplane and you are in a GM (Pontiac) car is the perfect example of where 2 hands are needed.

The reason is because GMs all have exposed wiring underneath which will short when you go through more than an inch or 2 of water at speed. When this happens, the first result (if it's not bad enough to stall you which it usually isn't) is that you will temporarily lose power steering. 1-handed non-power steering sucks.

It's pretty amazing that an electrical short would cause a belt driven power steering pump to fail...
I really hope your post was also a joke, like half of this thread.

Its very true. Ford Taurus's power steering will fial (And its belt driven) if you have a tranmission senser fail.

Arent you the mechanically inclined one.... :roll:
 

Shockwave

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I'm absolutely amazed at the number of people who know my driving abilties better then me!!!
WOW!!

Hey, can you guys tell me if I'm ready to take my CCNA, since you seem to know me better then I do?! Oh, and what should I buy my wife for X-Mas too?

Thanks guys!
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: quitch2
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm not trying to say that driving with one hand on the wheel is bad. I do it quite a bit myself. I'm just saying that driving with both hands on the wheel is better and it does give you more control of the car.

I wont argue that point in regards to "the masses", as I havent done much 2 handed driving. Again, as I've said, for me 1 hand is the way to go.

As a side, the day it proved the point to me was when I hydroplaned. Was driving back home, young dumb and full of cum, haulin ass in the rain. Driving a Pontaic... Looked like the old style Grand Am's. Cant think of it. FWD car. Anyways, cruisin about 75 in the rain on the interstate, and the ass end started to hydroplane and floated. Well, like an idiot (Used to RWD cars) I left off the gas, like your supposed to do in a RWD car (This is also why I now HATE FWD cars) and what happens? The front dips and starts to slow down, the ass being that its floating tries to pass me. Immediately went to 1 hand open palm on the wheel. It took alot of concentration, but with little finesse moves to kept the front end going straight while looking sideways and seeing the rear trying to pass me. I fully feel if I had used both hands I would have overcorrected and made a hell of a mess on the interstate. As it was, I figure I hydroplaned a good 50 yards before the car slowed down enough that the ass settled back down.
It taught me 2 things, I have the best finesse with 1 hand as I dont overcorrect or try to correct 2 quickly and not to drive like a bat out of hell in the rain!

I just wanted to point out that lifting off the gas when you lose rear traction in a RWD car is the absolute last thing you want to do. The ABSOLUTE LAST. You will spin out immediately. Otherwise, please go practice driving with two hands. It will make you a better driver, guaranteed.

No, its not. :roll:
 

CFster

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Man, the original poster must be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid. Or he's just looking for an excuse to hold his cell phone in the other hand.

Go to a high performance driving school. They'll kick you out of the car if you try it with one hand. But hey, they don't know anything I guess.

So, you're going to crank that wheel from lock to lock (which you might have to do in an avoidance manuever) with the palm of your hand. Let's see, you're either gripping the wheel at 12 o'clock - in which case you snap your wrist as you turn the wheel all the way around - or your holding on to the wheel with the palm of your hand and rely on the friction of a couple square inches of flesh to save you.

If you can't cooridinate two hands then you've got a problem.

Also somebody said the racers use both hands because they don't have power steering. Wrong - NASCAR and F1 both have power steering.

I vote for the Darwin award.

What a dumbass.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: CFster
Man, the original poster must be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid. Or he's just looking for an excuse to hold his cell phone in the other hand.

Go to a high performance driving school. They'll kick you out of the car if you try it with one hand. But hey, they don't know anything I guess.

So, you're going to crank that wheel from lock to lock (which you might have to do in an avoidance manuever) with the palm of your hand. Let's see, you're either gripping the wheel at 12 o'clock - in which case you snap your wrist as you turn the wheel all the way around - or your holding on to the wheel with the palm of your hand and rely on the friction of a couple square inches of flesh to save you.

If you can't cooridinate two hands then you've got a problem.

Also somebody said the racers use both hands because they don't have power steering. Wrong - NASCAR and F1 both have power steering.

I vote for the Darwin award.

What a dumbass.


They both have a toned down power steering. The power steering on your Bonneville is not the power steering on a Nascar race car.
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: CFster
Man, the original poster must be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid. Or he's just looking for an excuse to hold his cell phone in the other hand.

Go to a high performance driving school. They'll kick you out of the car if you try it with one hand. But hey, they don't know anything I guess.

So, you're going to crank that wheel from lock to lock (which you might have to do in an avoidance manuever) with the palm of your hand. Let's see, you're either gripping the wheel at 12 o'clock - in which case you snap your wrist as you turn the wheel all the way around - or your holding on to the wheel with the palm of your hand and rely on the friction of a couple square inches of flesh to save you.

If you can't cooridinate two hands then you've got a problem.

Also somebody said the racers use both hands because they don't have power steering. Wrong - NASCAR and F1 both have power steering.

I vote for the Darwin award.

What a dumbass.


They both have a toned down power steering. The power steering on your Bonneville is not the power steering on a Nascar race car.

I wouldn't drive a Bonneville :)

Point is, an F1 car can be driven with one hand if need be (you'd have to be crazy to try it). You can see the mechanics pushing them back into the garage with one hand on the wheel all the time.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that using one hand because it's power steering is a stupid arguement.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: CFster
Man, the original poster must be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid. Or he's just looking for an excuse to hold his cell phone in the other hand.

Go to a high performance driving school. They'll kick you out of the car if you try it with one hand. But hey, they don't know anything I guess.

So, you're going to crank that wheel from lock to lock (which you might have to do in an avoidance manuever) with the palm of your hand. Let's see, you're either gripping the wheel at 12 o'clock - in which case you snap your wrist as you turn the wheel all the way around - or your holding on to the wheel with the palm of your hand and rely on the friction of a couple square inches of flesh to save you.

If you can't cooridinate two hands then you've got a problem.

Also somebody said the racers use both hands because they don't have power steering. Wrong - NASCAR and F1 both have power steering.

I vote for the Darwin award.

What a dumbass.


They both have a toned down power steering. The power steering on your Bonneville is not the power steering on a Nascar race car.

I wouldn't drive a Bonneville :)

Point is, an F1 car can be driven with one hand if need be (you'd have to be crazy to try it). You can see the mechanics pushing them back into the garage with one hand on the wheel all the time.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that using one hand because it's power steering is a stupid arguement.


You like teh Bonneville!! :p

Well, you surely need 2 hands if you lose what littlepower steering they have.
Lets be honest, Nascar, you could drive 1 handed. You could drive it with your leg. ITS AN OVAL!! :D
/end shameless plug at Nascar ;)
 

Runamile

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Originally posted by: CFster
Man, the original poster must be a troll. Nobody could be that stupid. Or he's just looking for an excuse to hold his cell phone in the other hand.

Go to a high performance driving school. They'll kick you out of the car if you try it with one hand. But hey, they don't know anything I guess.

So, you're going to crank that wheel from lock to lock (which you might have to do in an avoidance manuever) with the palm of your hand. Let's see, you're either gripping the wheel at 12 o'clock - in which case you snap your wrist as you turn the wheel all the way around - or your holding on to the wheel with the palm of your hand and rely on the friction of a couple square inches of flesh to save you.

If you can't cooridinate two hands then you've got a problem.

Also somebody said the racers use both hands because they don't have power steering. Wrong - NASCAR and F1 both have power steering.

I vote for the Darwin award.

What a dumbass.

^^^
what he said.

I personally usually only drive with one hand, but thats outta shear lazyness, and I do a lot of highway driving where sharp, precision maneuverability isn't needed. But when I do stuff like quick sharp turing like in a tight parking lot, I move to two hands. Nothing beats the hand-over-hand approach for a lightening turn. Besides, too many times I've had a sweaty palm and while turning pretty fast my hand looses grip on the wheel and I almost hit stuff. One of these days my luck is going to run out and I will totaly trash something.

And like everyone else here said- If you don't have the mental capacity to move two arms in cordination with each other...
 

alkemyst

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wow just wow.

If anyone cannot understand the need for two handed driving, they haven't driven.

My advice is crank up your seat past 160 degrees and go faster than 30mph in rain with puddles.

wow just wow.
 

mb

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Originally posted by: CFster


I vote for the Darwin award.

What a dumbass.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I second the vote!

Shockwave, if you're really being serious that you think you have less control with two hands, you obviously have picked up some bad driving habits. If it's so hard for you to drive with two hands, go back to drivers ed and LEARN.
I'd feel more confident driving with a 16 year old who truely took time to learn everything in drivers ed than I would with you.
 

chrisms

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You will be punched in the face by your own fist and an incredible rate of speed should your airbag deploy in an accident.

With two hands on the wheel, you have a larger range of motion to turn the wheel. With the right hand you can go from 2 o'clock to 7 o'clock (counterclockwise), and with the left 10 o'clock to 5 o'clock. After one hand can no longer turn, you can quickly keep going with the other hand instead of having to push against the wheel to get leverage, like you must do while driving with one hand.

About the coordination issue you brought up, that is irrelevant. In a situation where someone has both hands on the wheel and needs to turn quickly, both hands should not be used simultaniously to turn, but in succession.
 

Vic

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:confused::roll: to this thread.

I drive a manual and confess that I frequently drive one-handed (usually just my left hand at ~10 o'clock) during casual driving moments, but in any even remotely dicey situation (or just when I feel extra attention is needed) I switch instantly to two-handed (9 and 3). You have FAR more control with 2 hands than just 1.

NEVER drive with an underhand grip on the wheel. In an emergency situation, the wheel could spin out of your control and you could break your hand on one of the wheel spokes.

In a RWD car, you increase throttle to induce oversteer and decrease throttle to reduce it. If you are in an oversteer slide in an RWD with a manual trans, it is generally safer to throw in the clutch than to drop the gas suddenly, as coming off the throttle too quickly could cause an overcorrection.

In an FWD car, you decrease throttle to induce oversteer and increase to reduce it. Too much throttle can induce an nasty understeer condition.

AWD cars balance between the 2, with a tendency to understeer at turn-on and then to oversteer out of the apex.
 

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Originally posted by: Dari
Unless you ambi-dexterous (sic?), it's very dangerous to drive with both hands. It can be hard to coordinate both hands to do what you want. Things can get more dicey if the situation is critical, forcing you to think fast. I like to drive with my right-hand (I'm right-handed) on the 12:00 position of the steering wheel. Driving at 9 and 3 is dangerous IMHO.

And his left hand is where? Can't be for shifting a manual, that's on the right...

Hmmm... his left hand must be... :X
spanking the monkey??
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Dari
Unless you ambi-dexterous (sic?), it's very dangerous to drive with both hands. It can be hard to coordinate both hands to do what you want. Things can get more dicey if the situation is critical, forcing you to think fast. I like to drive with my right-hand (I'm right-handed) on the 12:00 position of the steering wheel. Driving at 9 and 3 is dangerous IMHO.

And his left hand is where? Can't be for shifting a manual, that's on the right...

Hmmm... his left hand must be... :X
spanking the monkey??

You do realize in 'only a few' :) places your 'shifter' is on your left right?