• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Why do people complain about the X800 series being too slow already

A

archcommus

Diamond Member
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
 
Originally posted by: archcommus
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
Click to expand...

X800XL running any game fine. the only game I play now is WoW and its running with everything maxed and 0 lag, even in Iron Forge(if you play WoW you'd understand).
 
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: archcommus
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
Click to expand...

X800XL running any game fine. the only game I play now is WoW and its running with everything maxed and 0 lag, even in Iron Forge(if you play WoW you'd understand).
Click to expand...


In my experience IF lag is a memory issue, primarily. Going from 512 to 1GB makes a huge difference.

In any case, I'm still using a 9800 Pro just fine.
 
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: archcommus
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
Click to expand...

X800XL running any game fine. the only game I play now is WoW and its running with everything maxed and 0 lag, even in Iron Forge(if you play WoW you'd understand).
Click to expand...



WoW doesn't really demostarte "next gen" graphic effects and looks.. x800 is more than enough..

If you turn off All AA and AF most games should still be playable @ 16x12 considering you have a decent machince backing that card..
 
It depends on the game.

I have a 2005FPW, so I refuse to run anything other than the 1680x1050 native reso. Games like HL2 run wonderfully. Quake 4 ran well also. But games like COD2 were a real struggle.
 
Ok well it seems everyone here has no problems with their 800XL.

I have a P4 3.0 Ghz, w/ 2GB DDR400 Ram, and a "MSI RX800XL-VT2D256E Radeon X800 XL PCI Express 256MB DDR3"... when I play NFS:MW on maxed out setting at 1280x1024, I definitely get choppiness. Not happy here..
 
My X850XT agp still rocks. I thoroughly enjoy playing Fable: the Lost chapters @ 1280x1024 with the highest settings and 4X AA. So sweet man, I can't believe it.
 
the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR
Click to expand...

That's the general consensus among those who shelled out $400 - $600+ on the 7800gt/gtx and need to justify to themselves their spending a wad of money for a disproportionally small increase in performance.
 
I run Doom 3 and HL2 at 1600x1200 just fine on my 6600GT, and sometimes I throw in some AA/AF. So in my opinion, the X800 series should be still fine.
 
Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: archcommus
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
Click to expand...

X800XL running any game fine. the only game I play now is WoW and its running with everything maxed and 0 lag, even in Iron Forge(if you play WoW you'd understand).
Click to expand...



WoW doesn't really demostarte "next gen" graphic effects and looks.. x800 is more than enough..

If you turn off All AA and AF most games should still be playable @ 16x12 considering you have a decent machince backing that card..
Click to expand...

Ya except I love AA and AF and my monitor is 17''...so native res is 1280x960. But I run everything maxed in UT2004, HF2, Fable, etc etc....basically all old games(except Doom 3 ofcourse, damn OpenGL).

For newer games I'm running BF2 maxed, I average 40fps which is perfectly playable, for F.E.A.R I run at 1024x768 at high/med settings with 4x AA I get 55-65 fps. Quake 4, I run Ultra at 1024x768 and its playable.

The X800XL will keep me satisified for a while.
 
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: archcommus
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
Click to expand...

X800XL running any game fine. the only game I play now is WoW and its running with everything maxed and 0 lag, even in Iron Forge(if you play WoW you'd understand).
Click to expand...

WoW lag in the cities is not fixed or caused by anything related to RAM or your video card, but due to excessive network traffic areas where there are a lot of players. I get the exact same amount of lag in Orgrimmar if I play on my SLI rig as if I play on my PowerBook, which has a GeForce 5200Go with shared memory in it.

Edit: Of course WoW looks much better on the SLI rig with a widescreen monitor than it does on my the 12" PowerBook screen with no AA, but the lag disappears on the mac just the same when I'm not in a congested area.
 
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: archcommus
I can understand if you're running 16x12 or higher, but it seems like the general consensus among even less hardcore gamers is that the X800 series just doesn't cut it in the very latest stuff like Q4 and FEAR. I'm just not seeing it. I'm running an A64 3200+, gig of mem, and an X800 XL PCI-E on a 19" LCD and I get very playable performance in FEAR with everything at the 'High' presets (that sets the res to 10x7). I even upped the AA from the default (Off) to 4x and it's still fine. Of course it's not a steady 40+ fps or anything like that, but it's never what I'd call "choppy" or even slow enough to inhibit gameplay. Playable and definitely worthy of being called "smooth."

So what am I missing. Are there more gamers on big monitors today? Or are people's standards just rising?
Click to expand...

X800XL running any game fine. the only game I play now is WoW and its running with everything maxed and 0 lag, even in Iron Forge(if you play WoW you'd understand).
Click to expand...

WoW lag in the cities is not fixed or caused by anything related to RAM or your video card, but due to excessive network traffic areas where there are a lot of players. I get the exact same amount of lag in Orgrimmar if I play on my SLI rig as if I play on my PowerBook, which has a GeForce 5200Go with shared memory in it.
Click to expand...

Heh, I have the FX5200 on my 2nd rig, and it barely runs WoW, as soon as I walk into IF its a chop fest and became impossible to play. Keep in mind, this is at 640x480 and lowest possible settings.
 
My X800XL choked in Quake 4 1280x1024 2xAA. The XL routhinely dropped into the low twenties if not lower.

Needless to say, this prompted my immediate decision to go 7800GT before I installed COD2 and FEAR
 
If it's fine don't worry about it.. a lot of us like to upgrade for upgrade sake and being on top of technology.... as a matter a fact maybe I shoudl stop reading these forums.. already plotting my next moves and havnt even finished building a dual core opteron I have around here..😛
 
Originally posted by: Matt2
My X800XL choked in Quake 4 1280x1024 2xAA. The XL routhinely dropped into the low twenties if not lower.

Needless to say, this prompted my immediate decision to go 7800GT before I installed COD2 and FEAR
Click to expand...

thats crazy...i jes ran quake 4....Never dropped below 40fps

1280x1024 16xAA

Athlon 64 3000+ @ 3500+
4x512 pc3200
6800 stock
 
I can tolerate minimum FPS in the 20's, so long as everything averages mid-30s. But numbers aside, my X800 XT plays:
- FEAR at 1280x960 medium 2xAA 8xAF (benchmarks a mid-40's average)
- Q4 at 1280x1024 high 2xAA 8xAF (so far it struggles noticeably inside the Hannibal ship)
- COD2 at 1280x960 medium 0xAA 8xAF (struggles mainly with heavy smoke)
- Far Cry Matto 3 mod at 1280x960 very high 4xAA 8xAF (totally pwns my system :Q)

I'm under no illusions though... my vid card is basically at that resolution threshold (1280x1024 is the limit of my puny 17" CRT) where anything higher would warrant a GF7800/X1800 series and with my AGP rig there's really no better option out there right now.
 
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
Originally posted by: Matt2
My X800XL choked in Quake 4 1280x1024 2xAA. The XL routhinely dropped into the low twenties if not lower.

Needless to say, this prompted my immediate decision to go 7800GT before I installed COD2 and FEAR
Click to expand...

thats crazy...i jes ran quake 4....Never dropped below 40fps

1280x1024 16xAA

Athlon 64 3000+ @ 3500+
4x512 pc3200
6800 stock
Click to expand...

Well I dunno what to tell you. That was running the CAT 5.11s too. The ones that are supposed to put ATI OGL on par with Nvidia's OGL.

I would say the average fps was 25-30 fps. It got real slow with the baddies all over the screen.

I was playing at high settings too if that makes any difference.
 
I don't like having the minimum under 60 and find anything less to be choppy in most cases, although 50 is acceptable for some slow paced games. Don't care about averages. I can't get 60 in some modern games without dropping the resolution a lot (800x600 0xAA for FEAR), so I will be looking to upgrade in a few weeks once my college semester is over.
 
Originally posted by: kenetik
pg22: yah im getting a 2405fpw and i know i wont be happy at the native resolution..
Click to expand...

My X800GTO at 575/550 runs all my games on 1920x1200 rez with max EVERYTHING.. no aa no af .... FEAR, Quake4 .. no game ive played slows down yet on my system at 1920x1200 rez Everything maxed out.

At stock 400/490 i DO get slowdown! Overclocking is a must.
 
x800 xt here between 50-70 frames bf2 all high 12x10

but cod2 is another issue
10x7 resolution for playing
all high no aa with af and on dx9
40 frames avg


BUT dx7 100+ frames all day long!!!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top